Topic: Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement - page 12. (Read 3683 times)

Well, the people who come and complain here serve in some way to alert everyone of a possible place that is stealing from people, it's not that bad, however whenever a person does this type of things or accusations it is always It's good to take some Screenshots, to verify that things are real, that there is nothing to hide, however when we see this type of advertisement we don't know if in Reality it is because the user has anger against that site or simply wants to make the site look bad, that is also a Possibility , there are always people who are of that style, and I really don't understand why, plus I also know that there are people who warn people not to fall into that place , it is good slaog and that is worth publishing so that at least the most novices do not go to lose money there, of course these things should always be considered in Order to have a better path towards the good that can be avoided, it is what a person normally can do to protect others.

One of the reasons why the forum is there is so that they can see Information that helps people to avoid fraud, and so that they can avoid being Scammed, it is sometimes very Difficult to allocate money and suddenly it can go to another side and not verify that things are bad, in this order of ideas things can go to a path that can be improved for the best, if in some way the People are stopped before entering a casino that they lived for the web, since Either for a warning, they should first go through bitcointalk to verify if the item is here and legitimate, that is an idea that most people should do, but of course, it is difficult, because not everyone has the culture of making things through the forum and reading, something that should always be like that, so regarding the ads I would be a very jealous person regarding that, Information is something that should not be denied and even more so when it is associated with money.

I do not see that complaining on the forum when exposed to a scam is a smart step, rather it is a normal step because in many cases it is the only step that can be taken in the absence of legal procedures that can be resorted to. Posting a claim on the forum is always intended to confirm actual exposure to scam and alert the community to take the necessary precautions. There are many casinos that are still active despite the number of complaints filed against them. I can refer to the famous casino 1xbet and its version 1xbit.

There is nothing wrong in playing on a new casino, every old and reputable casino was once a new one and people put their trust in them which made them reach where they are today. However, it's important for a gambler to make sure that they are only using small amounts for gambling in the initial stage and aren't providing their personal documents because it takes some time to know if the platform is actually trustworthy or not.

Reading the terms and conditions before joining a new casino platform is also important to know what they might require in the future, especially if someone is concerned about KYC verification. Even if they have not mentioned anything about it on their website, they will surely have it clear in their terms and conditions and that's why it's important to read them first.

There is nothing more reliable than logical criticism of all aspects of the project using successful experiences in the gambling industry.  The problem with BitcoinTalk is that users trust the opinions of experienced, reputable members.  I see many projects using trusted members to promote their platforms, and some of them continue to work with integrity for a significant period until the community trusts them before they turn into a scam.
I always encourage using platforms that have proven their reliability for a long time.  If it is necessary to use a new platform, it is better for small amounts.

As long as the new casino shows its desire to be a better casino, we will support the new casino. We also know that there are many new casinos on this forum and these new casinos can show good performance and provide good service so that the new casinos can develop by promoting on this forum.

If the new casino can use this forum to grow and have an ANN thread to interact with the members here, they are working hard to prove that the new casino is worth trying. But indeed, many novice gamblers don't want to read the rules of each casino so they experience problems that they shouldn't have to face.

There's nothing wrong supporting the new casino because like other casino before they rise up there experience to become a beginner to in this industry. But of course make sure that you have a background check with the casino before playing. I always do is checking if they have a thread here so I can verify their reputation if it's good or not.
Some mistakes of the newbies in casino don't really read the terms and condition because who wants to read a lot of text right?. Casino offers a lot of services and events but of course before joining read their requirement first so there's no problem in case you win with the withdrawal. Innocence is not a reason.

Yes, DYOR could actually save you from all the site scams that will come your way. Without doing initial studies on the sites, it's certain that you will really fall on their traps, because for some beginner gamblers, their focus is to make quick profits until they become blinded by these too good to be true bonuses by scam sites.

The forum has some moderators and when there is something that is an obvious scam then we could report them and more often than not they do get deleted if they do something about it, but that doesn't mean that it is going to end up with anything decent. I believe that one can get deleted and another can be written and there is no stopping from it.

Reaching out to known members of the forum and expecting them to have a say in this regard is always a smart move and would make it better, I personally think that the best thing to do in this case would be just waiting, you do not have to rush into anything, do absolutely nothing and wait for others to do something, there will always be some people who would risk themselves and we can learn from them.

Yeah!  I know about this case of fraud and I generally understand the scheme by which this fraudster acted.  It remains to be admitted that here, too, individual users penetrate our forum who initially had dishonest and fraudulent intentions. 

Of course, our forum is not immune to this and it would be too difficult and expensive to maintain some kind of serious security service checking casinos for their honest intentions, simply because the forum has a completely different bassic profile.  This should obviously be done by forums or other means of communication between players and interested parties specifically dedicated to the topic of gambling and reviews of different casinos.  But this case that you mentioned can be said to be an exception to the general rules of maintaining the integrity of BTT users.  By the way, users with many years of experience on the forum actively communicate on our forum and they value their reputation and therefore rarely write false information to this team. 
All such users still value their reputation.

I invite you to check out the Bitlucy casino project, which was launched more than a year ago, and how it turned into a confirmed scam after gaining trust from the community. The scammer launched a casino that had all the necessary functions and then partnered with an honest member here on the forum to undertake advertising tasks, including answering the community’s questions and launching a signature campaign to introduce the casino. Many trusted members joined the campaign because of their trust in its manager, which added more credibility to the casino. After a short period, problems began to appear, and many users lost their deposits. The biggest victim was the member who ran the promotional campaigns, who had to compensate from his own pocket.
This provides an example of how scammers can convince a group of their integrity with impressive skill.

Therefore, to narrow our search in finding a suitable casino for us, we need to search for these casinos from this forum. That will prevent us from choosing the wrong casino, which could cause us to experience a scam. On this forum, many casinos already have a reputation, and there are even new casinos that are starting to gain a reputation because these casinos can provide the best service to their members. They even always try to improve their services from time to time so they can get a good reputation.

But if these people keep looking for those casinos from out there, they might get a scam casino. And they can only complain in this forum if they can solve the problem. We have to avoid this so that it doesn't happen to us, especially since we already have a lot of experience using casinos on this forum.

Perhaps casino verification sites can sometimes really help and warn a completely new gambler from sending his money to a fraudulent casino.  But it is also worth taking into account the period of time when a group  investigating the activities of a casino will calculate and reliably understand that a certain new casino was definitely created for the purpose of fraud.  And you need some reliable evidence of fraud.  And some of the deceived players may lose money and accept it and not report it anywhere, not write any complaints.  By the way, this lengthens the process of identifying a casino as a scam.  But we shouldn’t forget that when entering the gambling market, any casino tries to be attractive.  If these are scammers, then they can do everything so that no one quickly guesses their true plans.

This is critical if you ask me, while we must not trust whatever we read online and we need to always verify it, this becomes a very tiring process if you are looking for a casino in which to play, as there are hundreds of obscure casinos out there claiming to be the best on the industry and many newbies that do not know any better believe those lies.

Then they get scammed and they finally come to this forum and they get surprised by the fact that such a casino was a known scam or no one has ever heard about it, so using this forum to select casinos in which to gamble is a sensible choice.

Yeah you would be surprised as how naive many gamblers still are to these scams and just like what you said ignorant is the major cause of all these error and some of these gamblers aren't actually the so called newbie most of them just get trapped by their greed and then it leads them to be victims of such situations. I Know the rate of gambling site that are scams are much but it doesn't kill anyone to actually make a little research as to what they actually want to involved their money on.

The third is to use this forum to find the right casino for you. We don't need to look for casinos from out there that we don't know at all about their legitimacy and will pose risks for us instead. By looking for a casino from this forum, we have prevented the risk of scams carried out by the casino. Nowadays, we have encountered many casinos that get reviews from other sites that we don't know are true. So we have to be careful in searching and finding the casino. Don't be tempted to register at a casino just because their offers are more attractive because that is not a guarantee that the casino site is truly legit.

What you said is not completely true in describing new casinos which might be fraudulent because some of your points are not valid
point number one, if they only have a few payment options it is because they are still new, whereas if they only accept fiat it is because they are a fiat casino, not a cypto casino.
Meanwhile, using fake reviews is often used, even by one casino scam that is still operating today.
However, I agree, don't ignore the casino announcement thread, when a new casino has an announcement thread here, it will increase trust in the casino, especially if the representatives are quite active, but sometimes that can't be a guarantee that the new casino has the intention of cheating from the start.

Regarding that specific situation you have mentioned, who is mostly the one to blame?

Shitty gambling sites or those Users?

The never-ending cycle of situations being scammed won't be stopped as long as there are users who still stay on being ignorant on the web. Being a newbie is not a reason after all since it's already common thinking that before we throw money into something, we should research first the overall identity and information of that said site. I can't believe there are users who are easily preyed on such obvious scam site because they didn't do their part of doing research.

There are still some people that are completely ignoring these simple instructions, and I don't know why they want to do just that, but it's an unfortunate thing that they exist and are still doing these to 'take advantage' of offers that are being given to them. Being greedy sometimes puts you into a lot of bad situations that could have been avoided, but due to greediness, you choose not to.

It's already expected that a gambling site will have an interesting offer to their new visitors. It's now our duty to explore the legitimacy of the site. Having a Bitcointalk thread is great but there are lots of gambling site that's not present here. With how big the internet is, it's now easy to search the reputation of a site.

My general rule of thumb is, if these gambling sites do have only few reviews around, then ignore.

Second, there are also lots of sources nowadays to check whether the gambling site is a scam or not.

We should just use our working brain to work with common sense.

True! And if possible, avoid the advertisements in different unknown articles too. Some of them are old and still offering bonuses while the truth is the ads are expired and so do the offers. Worse, it's a scam.

I just also want to add the wagering amount before withdrawal. Some gambling sites do this after giving out bonuses. The only problem is the wager amount that a gambler needs to hit is near impossible or it would take you like almost forever before you can reach it.
There are already a lot of reputable gambling sites out there and we can stick to them. Looking for a new site for a fresh start might just jeopardize our hard-earned money and it is the worst thing that could happen than losing it while enjoying the games on the old gambling site that we used.

What I do is always check the feedback from real players/gamblers. There are people who took the risk and shares their experiences so that they cannot victim another gambler in the future.