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New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.


3. Lower withdrawal limits.

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.

Not all new casinos have these issues. However, having such issues clearly shows that the team behind the new casino is unprofessional.
It's OK to have limited currencies or limited games in the beginning. This isn't such a big deal for the gamblers, if the casino design is good and the customer support is active and willing to help. I have always preferred quality over quantity, so a legit casino with 10 good games is better than a shady/sketchy casino offering 1000 games.
Fake reviews can be spotted and I'm sure that any casino owner, that has an announcement thread on Bitcointalk will have to answer some uncomfortable questions, if the Bitcointalk users find out about that particular casino having fake reviews.
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If I give any advice, I would say look for sites that are trying to engage with the community. Sites that are offering promotions. Sites that do not end up in scam accusations section 2 weeks after coming to the forum and already facing wd issues. Be careful with all casinos when depositing(especially large amounts) and make sure to read their ToS and know if you have to pass kyc or not or verify your funds.
The average case that is often found here is that people make large deposits at new casinos and end up complaining here, while the community on this forum has often warned beginner friends not to be too eager to make large deposits at new casinos. It's just being promoted in this forum, even though the site has been running for a long time, it's a good idea to do in-depth research just in case to at least look at reviews from other friends.

This is good advice because we all know that sites that are involved with the community are an added value, that they are serious about providing good service from this forum community, especially responding to accusations and complaints from users in this forum, especially often offering interesting promotions on this forum. It's a good site, but it all comes back to reputation.
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It’s definitely a good idea to remember that if something looks too good to be true then there’s a good chance it is. Especially when it comes to money making opportunities online that require you to trust someone else with your money. The best thing to look for in an online casino isn’t a great offer, but a great reputation.
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If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.
It's good if a new casino made an effort to create an ANN thread here to introduce their site. Because many gamblers prefer a casino with an existing ANN thread to communicate to their representative for questions and issues they might encounter when playing on the site. However it doesn't mean those casinos without a presence here are just scam, maybe they have other ways to promote their casino on social media or in different platforms to attract more customers.

Either old or new casinos, it's a must to conduct a research to prevent ourselves playing on scam sites. Don't get attracted to their promotions/bonuses without checking if the site is trustworthy. 
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These days casino scams weren't found much. The competence have kept the existing casinos in a better position than scamming its users. In the past gambling platforms focus the beginners, and the platform doesn't last longer. Within short time period the platform goes away from usage running away with users fund. Similar thing had happened with few wallet service providers. Here beginners need to be cautious, if not they could end up losing their capitals.
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To be honest with you, I don't think that having an announcement thread here means the casino can be trusted and there are many contre examples. Sure, having an announcement thread will give experienced members the opportunity to test the casino and then write their honest review and what they think about it (if it can be trusted or no). This can be very helpful for new gamblers who can't do their own research.
Also, good bonuses is a way for new casinos to attract customers. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to scam. But be sure to read the bonuses terms before claiming them.
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Also, a signature campaign does not mean a site will not scam. If you believe that, you might be slow in the head.
I may not be entirely correct but this is how I do it. I like to see gambling sites with signature campaign. It makes me think that the gambling site still have money and advertising makes it more possible for the gambling site not to scam if more people can register and start to gamble. Unlike a gambling site that do not advertise. Advertisement is very important in a business.

Yes, advertising is important from a business perspective to attract new customers (gamblers). But, just to provide a few examples off the top of my head:

1xBit had several sig campaigns over the years.
Betnomi had a sig campaign and even sponsored some forum contests.
BitLucy had a sig campaign from the beginning until the very end.
Adkinsbet, KawBet, AceDBets ... They all turned out to be scams in the end.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate when a casino invests in forum promotion, but that alone doesn't guarantee its reliability.
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Anything we are not aware about then we are bound of making mistakes through it, most if these casinos make their announcement through many means which we can also see that they are what we can get informed about if we are really on page with them, some send their announcements through their user profile on their platform or in form of message to their profile, while some through the email or mobile contact we left with them all with the aim of passing out announcements to us.


Sometime even though the gambling sites try as much as possible to pass across various announcements, some gamblers will just choose to pay deef ear to it and there by doing what is in their own mind and when anything goes wrong along the line their then run back to the casino to complain or place accusations of casino violation lf their rights meanwhile it they fault for not keeping up to date with news and announcements.
But ops is more concern about how one can limit falling into scam casino, mostly the relatively new.casino who doesn't have any track records to keep up with and could easily pull up any string against their customers.
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That's why we don't need to look for new casinos from outside, especially sites we don't know. We have enough of this forum as reference material and consideration in choosing the casino we will use for gambling. Even though finding a casino that suits us takes time, it is still worth doing because when gambling, we want to find comfort. And if the new casino doesn't have an ANN thread on this forum, we shouldn't try it because we don't know how it will perform. But we can also ask about new casinos that we find outside through this forum because, who knows, there are members here who have played at these casinos and have had good experiences using the casinos for gambling.

lucky if you are already in this forum, because most probably, you already know how to look for legit casinos or bookies to place bet with. a lot are getting screwed because they don't know the reputation of the site itself. however, if you have been for quite some time, the chance of learning these casinos is quite high.
just consider the fact that no scam site can launch their campaign here. or if not, the campaign manger himself will pause or stop the campaign if the site has ongoing issue with their player. that alone, will give you a hint that no scam site can continue to promote their site. unless, there are some members here who continue to promote an allegedly scam site.
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Anything we are not aware about then we are bound of making mistakes through it, most if these casinos make their announcement through many means which we can also see that they are what we can get informed about if we are really on page with them, some send their announcements through their user profile on their platform or in form of message to their profile, while some through the email or mobile contact we left with them all with the aim of passing out announcements to us.

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That's why we don't need to look for new casinos from outside, especially sites we don't know. We have enough of this forum as reference material and consideration in choosing the casino we will use for gambling. Even though finding a casino that suits us takes time, it is still worth doing because when gambling, we want to find comfort. And if the new casino doesn't have an ANN thread on this forum, we shouldn't try it because we don't know how it will perform. But we can also ask about new casinos that we find outside through this forum because, who knows, there are members here who have played at these casinos and have had good experiences using the casinos for gambling.
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Also, a signature campaign does not mean a site will not scam. If you believe that, you might be slow in the head.
I may not be entirely correct but this is how I do it. I like to see gambling sites with signature campaign. It makes me think that the gambling site still have money and advertising makes it more possible for the gambling site not to scam if more people can register and start to gamble. Unlike a gambling site that do not advertise. Advertisement is very important in a business.

Signature campaign is just one of the things that I mentioned. I also mention having active announcement thread. Including the official account to be active. I like something like that because it can make issue to be solved easily sometime.

Out of the 100% money that I am receiving weekly, I hardly use 5% to gamble. Most of the time I use less than 5% to gamble. And luckily, no gambling site that have scammed me before. I will always advice people to gamble with what they can afford to lose.

Despite the low amount I used to gamble, I still check if the gambling site has a license or not.

I can be scammed, but I think those things can make the possibility of me to be scammed to reduce. They are new gambling sites and if the business do not go as it supposed to be, it can lead to disappointment.
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I agreed with you but one thing you must know is that any casino that will want to scam people are not written on their ann thread on even written on their website, sometimes they present very good and innocent at their starting points and fails after gaining much attention and trust from people. So in essences what I am trying to say about this is that don't rely on them making announcement on this forum or not because any casino who basically wants to scam will surely scam no matter how smart you ought to be without being careful you might still falls into victim.

Just pray for a better casino or to have the good ones, and from my understanding what i founds out at the Scam Accusations, Reputation section is that, there is no casino that doesn't have at list a single bad record. Therefore you can't predicts the good and bad casino and even the gambling sites.
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A new casino can later become to scam. Sometimes the people that created the casino may not be able to market the casino very well and because of low profit in a way the casino can no longer function, they just stop the casino and not allowing people to withdraw.

I too will advice people to just try the casinos or other gambling sites on this forum instead. If it is a new casino, they should try it with little amount of money. They should try the ones that have signature campaign which are able to market their gambling sites on this forum. The gambling sites that I have gone for on this forum have active signature campaign and also having active announcement thread.

If it is a new gambling site that is not in this forum, I do not try to register and this has been the reason no casino has scammed me before. I am not saying that new gambling sites can not scam, use very low amount of money to gamble on such gambling sites.
If someone uses your logic, then there would never be any successful new casinos or any need for new casinos to even try. Every casino started out as new correct? Back in the day casino had a minimum bankroll 100x that of the max win in 1 bet, nowdays there are a lot taking a risk and allowing you to win well over their bankroll. Check their TiS to see if you can even wd your whole win if you hit a large amount. Some casinos have a max weekly or monthly wd limit set so they do not deplete their entire bankroll if someone is lucky enought to hit huge.

Also, a signature campaign does not mean a site will not scam. If you believe that, you might be slow in the head.

Now, I do agree that active casinos on the forum, casinos that launch a proper announcement thread, and casinos that do some sort of marketing on the forum are at least making an effort and trying to gain some trust, but that doesn't mean they cannot or will not scam. 1xbit, bitlucy, 999dice, Betking, Betnomi and multiple others over the years have been known to scam users. Some are old brands some are new.

If I give any advice, I would say look for sites that are trying to engage with the community. Sites that are offering promotions. Sites that do not end up in scam accusations section 2 weeks after coming to the forum and already facing wd issues. Be careful with all casinos when depositing(especially large amounts) and make sure to read their ToS and know if you have to pass kyc or not or verify your funds.
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Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.
New gambling sites that have ANN threads on this forum cannot be separated from the possibility of ending up in a scam in the future.  There are many examples that we can mention here, the most important thing in my opinion is not whether the gambling site is new or old but rather the license that the gambling site has, from which country the gambling site comes, how many partners the gambling site has, what events are often held, and whether the bonuses they give are reasonable.  Things as simple as this can be a benchmark for whether a gambling site is safe and trustworthy.
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.

3. Lower withdrawal limits.

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.

If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.
Not all sites or even legit ones does have that ANN thread on this forum on which you cant really make out some checks or make out some conclusions that it isnt legit just because it wasnt having an ANN thread

which its not a solid thing for you to rely on seeking for legit platforms specially new. Having those good and generous kind of bonuses do really looks appealing which it would be normal that it would be given out
on the time that it would launched which it is really that understandable but if this one is made out to be permanent then this is where you should really be having those doubts because it cant really be just
that so possible for a legit business to have this kind of set up.

Bare also in mind that if those offerings are really that too good to be true or something  that too far away with those common or standard that we are seeing on legit sites then it is really that wise
that you should really be skeptical on making out some big deposits or playing into the site.
legendary
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What you are describing are just common characteristics from almost all new small casinos, so I don't understand how you are making the difference betwen honest and dishonest ones. When a new casino is launched it can't get many reviews immediately, it can't buy a huge amount of games from providers, it can't have a big capital for its bankroll and it can't work out as smoothly as a 10years one. So it's a little bit harsh to advise people against using it and trusting them. Big and famous crypto casinos are also scamming customers.
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If you are thrilled or just interested in a brand new gambling platform, make sure to deposit exclusively small sums of money to test it, besides looking for reviews and feedbacks from another gamblers regards this service. This way you are safe from being scammed and losing considerable sums of money.

What you should keep in mind, though, is that promotions by such casinos are discouraged. Don't feel tempted into depositing a lot of money to take part promotions' requirements, expecting you are going to be rewarded later. Doesn't matter how good it looks, always be suspicious, since it's a recently launched website, therefore they don't have any solid evidence of reputation you can judge.
I usually don’t try any new platform without their own ANN thread because that’s an indication for me that they are serious about their site and they have plans to promote it here in the forum. Yes, trying the new site with a small amount of money is ok but still you can be a victim of a scam site if you’ll do it rush, better to do your own analysis first and look for the site itself, if there’s an option for a demo account better to maximize it as well.
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A quick warning to all gambling beginners, the most attractive ways that scam gambling websites get to you is bonuses and undeniable offers, I can see some new online casinos coming up with attracting bonuses to make you deposit some money and gamble, while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

New casinos also comes with baggages likes

1. Experiencing several issues like game loading or lagging.

2. Experiencing errors when trying to deposit or make withdrawal.

3. Lower withdrawal limits.

4. Limited currencies accepted, most prefer Fiat still.

5. Lack of games collection due to limited software providers.

6. Lack of online reviews about them, some even have their ways with fake reviews.

If you want try them out then make sure that they have an announcement thread opened on the Bitcointalk forum, few new casinos made it to the forum and still turn scam, they are been dealt with by raising an alarm and red tagging their account, This spreads information all over the forum and outside the forum, at least many are saved from becoming the next victim.

Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

The list 1 to 5 is understandable since new casinos are still on their initial stage and is yet to optimized their services.  they are like testing the waters and adjust according to the need of improvement of their platform as players flocks in to their site.  While the list 6 simply means the casino isn't reputable at all since they have shown that they are not to be trusted because they are cheating their prospected player by creating fake reviews.  This kind of casino should be avoided at all cost.

I do not mind if the casino do not have an announcement here in Bitcointalk because it does not guarantee that it will not turn scam one day.  We have seen several casinos that have announcement here and yet they turned scam after some time.  They even have a signature campaign here so I am repeating that having an announcement thread here in Bitcointalk.org does not guarantee that it will not scam their players.
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If you are thrilled or just interested in a brand new gambling platform, make sure to deposit exclusively small sums of money to test it, besides looking for reviews and feedbacks from another gamblers regards this service. This way you are safe from being scammed and losing considerable sums of money.

What you should keep in mind, though, is that promotions by such casinos are discouraged. Don't feel tempted into depositing a lot of money to take part promotions' requirements, expecting you are going to be rewarded later. Doesn't matter how good it looks, always be suspicious, since it's a recently launched website, therefore they don't have any solid evidence of reputation you can judge.
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