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A new casino can later become to scam. Sometimes the people that created the casino may not be able to market the casino very well and because of low profit in a way the casino can no longer function, they just stop the casino and not allowing people to withdraw.

I too will advice people to just try the casinos or other gambling sites on this forum instead. If it is a new casino, they should try it with little amount of money. They should try the ones that have signature campaign which are able to market their gambling sites on this forum. The gambling sites that I have gone for on this forum have active signature campaign and also having active announcement thread.

If it is a new gambling site that is not in this forum, I do not try to register and this has been the reason no casino has scammed me before. I am not saying that new gambling sites can not scam, use very low amount of money to gamble on such gambling sites.

Obviously, it just about moderate risk taking trying the site with small amount of money, bet and withdraw to your bank account if they actually process withdrawal as claimed, sometimes you won't really tell a possible scammer betting platform,  some act as wolfs in a sheep clothing,  everything will seem good at the beginning but when they must have gotten a number of clients to scam, they go thin air.
Risking an amount you can afford to lose is just key to surviving in the online digital space.
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The whole ToS is the do and don’t. I think the FAQs page is what you meant since it usually explains what’s frequently ask questions(FAQs) about the casino including do’s and don’t.

It’s essential to read the ToS if you are a first time player to familiarize about the rules of the casino. Usually, casino use general terms which means you can already assume the general terms on other casino too if you already familiarize.

Even until now I still read terms but through scanning already. I’m just looking for the specific terms that I knew frequently varies every casino.
Reading ToS is necessary to understand the main rule in a casino and we must realize that every casino will have a different rule so we must make sure that we know what we can do and don't. We can not underestimate the ToS on every casino and thinks that the rules will similar.

A beginners needs to pay attention to reading the ToS to avoids the problem. Usually, they will read the ToS when they have the problem and try to understand the rules. But unfortunately, many beginners judge the casino is scammer and that is because they don't read all of the rules. They must know that casino have ToS that all members needs to understand.
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This is where there is a problem for beginners. First of all, they need to understand the terminology used in specific ToS casinos. And this can be a problem because the beginner has not yet played in a casino and has not experienced any difficult situations that an experienced player knows very well. For this reason, the beginner can think up individual options for implementing the rules himself and as it comes to his mind. But this may not correspond at all or even contradict what the ToS developers have in mind. And what is an understandable and generally accepted norm for experienced players.
But I will finish optimistically: all this is resolved simply by the beginner's experience of playing and as he learns. And all this in the worst case comes down to only the loss of money for the beginner in the early stages of his game. And this is not so tragic if you remember that gambling is, in principle, an endless "vacuum cleaner" pumping money out of players.
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The whole ToS is the do and don’t. I think the FAQs page is what you meant since it usually explains what’s frequently ask questions(FAQs) about the casino including do’s and don’t.

It’s essential to read the ToS if you are a first time player to familiarize about the rules of the casino. Usually, casino use general terms which means you can already assume the general terms on other casino too if you already familiarize.

Even until now I still read terms but through scanning already. I’m just looking for the specific terms that I knew frequently varies every casino.
Reading ToS is necessary to understand the main rule in a casino and we must realize that every casino will have a different rule so we must make sure that we know what we can do and don't. We can not underestimate the ToS on every casino and thinks that the rules will similar.

A beginners needs to pay attention to reading the ToS to avoids the problem. Usually, they will read the ToS when they have the problem and try to understand the rules. But unfortunately, many beginners judge the casino is scammer and that is because they don't read all of the rules. They must know that casino have ToS that all members needs to understand.

It is true that they can only look for important things to understand before gambling, and in my opinion this does not only apply to beginners but also to those who have been gambling for a long time, there must still be research or a good understanding in the announcements that the casino gives to its customers. Because in my opinion, even those who are experienced do not mean that they can freely gamble, but when the casino makes an announcement about updates or others, everyone needs to understand it well. Usually players are reluctant to take the time to read, especially for those who want to gamble to make a profit, I think it is unlikely that they will take the time for it, but when they experience problems with the gambling they do, they will force themselves to understand things that they did not understand from the start.
Researching before they choose the casino is a must so they don't pick a random casino to playing gambling. That will avoids them to get a problem and they can enjoy their time to playing gambling without thinking about the problem. A beginners and experienced gamblers must do that and always aware with all of the announcement from the casino so they will not miss something. The casino will give their announcement many times related to what they do with their business so gamblers must not avoid that. The announcement from the casino is an information that all of members must understand because that can be a modifying of the policy or upgrade of their serves or others.

Yes, simply they can look for some important rules, in the sense of rules that really should not be violated or when violated there will be quite big consequences such as blocked accounts, that can be done if they are lazy to read all the ToS provided by the casino, but if it turns out they really don't want to read it and miss everything? then of course when one day they intentionally or unintentionally violate it, there should be no word of defense whatsoever because it is clear they were wrong from the start. Ensuring whether the casino is reputable or not is indeed an action that must be taken by a gambler to avoid some unwanted incidents such as rejected withdrawals or anything unfair, and the point is to be responsible, that's the first point.
They can read the important thing from the ToS but it is better if they spend some time to read the other part so that give them understanding about the ToS. They can not be lazy to avoid reading the ToS especially if they often to playing gambling on that casino because without knowing the ToS, they can do something wrong that can affect to their account. We must use reputable casino to avoids all of the problem so we can playing gambling without a problem and can enjoy our time. That is why casino often release their announcement so we as a members in their casino should read the newest info about their casino.
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Even though new casinos do have free bonus for new users just to lure them to keep betting on the platform, that do not mean that as a gambler, we ought to be jumping from one casino to the other just to keep getting bonus to use for betting. Anytime we intend to try a new casino, checking their announcement on this forum is a great importance for our own safety so we can know whether the actual gambling platform really worth our time using it for the first time. It is good as experienced gambler to run some quick research on the announcement of the casino we intend using so it can safe us a lot of drama.

Not advisable to just hop from one casino to another due to their offered bonus program. One should always check the conditions attached to it as they can put some click baits just for you to sign up. Most of the time, the requirements are quite hard to complete, especially the wagering requirements.

Also, it is better to read valid feedbacks from other players so you have idea how they treat the players, whether small timer or high roller.
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while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

new casino always had a bonus for new user I mean this is the easiest way to make people join to their casino. Just and advice don't go all in haha. Some casino sometimes offer free play and can win reward maybe you can try it first.

Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement any kind of ANN is important in my opinion for either new player or an old player because the companies created that so people can watch is going on with the casino itself.
.Even though new casinos do have free bonus for new users just to lure them to keep betting on the platform, that do not mean that as a gambler, we ought to be jumping from one casino to the other just to keep getting bonus to use for betting. Anytime we intend to try a new casino, checking their announcement on this forum is a great importance for our own safety so we can know whether the actual gambling platform really worth our time using it for the first time. It is good as experienced gambler to run some quick research on the announcement of the casino we intend using so it can safe us a lot of drama.
legendary
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Of course, ideally everyone should read the terms and conditions, but in reality it is a huge text file, with legal wording and complex ornate concepts. Therefore, I do not think that anyone spends time reading it. I agree that it is important to read it, but no one does it. If someone cares about their safety and does not want to be deceived by the casino, then it is better for such a gambler to at least read reviews about the casino. And it is better to do this only in trusted places, for example here on the forum.
If they don't wants to read all of the terms and conditions, they can search for the part about do and don't and trying to understanding the rules. By reading that, we can avoid making a mistake which will not affect to us so we can enjoy playing gambling without have a problem. Besides that, we should make sure that we are playing gambling in the reputable casino so we don't have to worry with anything and only makes sure that we can responsible to ourselves in playing gambling.

Yes, simply they can look for some important rules, in the sense of rules that really should not be violated or when violated there will be quite big consequences such as blocked accounts, that can be done if they are lazy to read all the ToS provided by the casino, but if it turns out they really don't want to read it and miss everything? then of course when one day they intentionally or unintentionally violate it, there should be no word of defense whatsoever because it is clear they were wrong from the start. Ensuring whether the casino is reputable or not is indeed an action that must be taken by a gambler to avoid some unwanted incidents such as rejected withdrawals or anything unfair, and the point is to be responsible, that's the first point.
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Of course, ideally everyone should read the terms and conditions, but in reality it is a huge text file, with legal wording and complex ornate concepts. Therefore, I do not think that anyone spends time reading it. I agree that it is important to read it, but no one does it. If someone cares about their safety and does not want to be deceived by the casino, then it is better for such a gambler to at least read reviews about the casino. And it is better to do this only in trusted places, for example here on the forum.
If they don't wants to read all of the terms and conditions, they can search for the part about do and don't and trying to understanding the rules. By reading that, we can avoid making a mistake which will not affect to us so we can enjoy playing gambling without have a problem. Besides that, we should make sure that we are playing gambling in the reputable casino so we don't have to worry with anything and only makes sure that we can responsible to ourselves in playing gambling.

The whole ToS is the do and don’t. I think the FAQs page is what you meant since it usually explains what’s frequently ask questions(FAQs) about the casino including do’s and don’t.

It’s essential to read the ToS if you are a first time player to familiarize about the rules of the casino. Usually, casino use general terms which means you can already assume the general terms on other casino too if you already familiarize.

Even until now I still read terms but through scanning already. I’m just looking for the specific terms that I knew frequently varies every casino.
It is really that understandable that reading up TOS would really be tiresome considering that it would really be that a long pile of text on which you would really be needing up at least to read
but actually its not something that needs up to read up completely but rather you should really be that filtering the most common concern or issues that most gamblers do able to face on
on which it would really be pertaining about KYC stuff and banned countries or any bonuses terms and conditions on which these are the main things that you do need to check out at least.

Just like on what i have said above that you cant really just that directly without reading up at least of those informations. If ever there would really be some change of those
terms then it will really be that recommended that you should be wary of those changes at least.
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Yes, recently I saw a new account doing that, as you said they wrote hundreds or even thousands of characters with assumptions that narrowed down to accusations but what made me quite annoyed was that there was no evidence in any form included, meaning it could still be called nonsense, another thing I agree with you that they are most likely competitors from other casinos trying to damage the reputation of a reputable casino that has been running for decades by leading public opinion to the wrong point of view regarding the reputable casino. In the end, this kind of thing cannot always be avoided, I understand that very well and the point is to come back to ourselves, or what I mean is don't jump to conclusions if something you see seems unreasonable, especially if there is no evidence included.
If there are no prove, we don't have to believe to them and skip their accusation. The representative of the casino will trying to make sure that they are not make a mistake and clarify what is happen to that person. They also give a prove that person do something suspicious that makes that person getting his account freeze by the casino.

It is a normal if their competitor wants to damage the reputation of a reputable casino. They don't want to see that casino gets more popular than them so they will do many things to make that casino lose their loyal members. We must make sure that the casino is a reputable casino which have good services and always announce if they have something to tell to their members or want to do something else. They will not hide whatever happens in their site because is means for their members.

It is not surprising that casinos try to manipulate each other's reputations. Their cash flows depend entirely on how many gamblers come to them to play gambling games. Each casino allocates a percentage of profits to advertising campaigns and it is not surprising that they try to attack each other's reputations. Just as unscrupulous casinos outside our forum try to cover up negative reviews with positive ones. It is a big war without rules.
I know that in competition, there are sentiments, selfishness and even attacks, but this is not what is so high for concern the way you painted it, it must be cleverly done to avoid people noticing and the government sanctioning the erring parties. Healthy rivalry is the best in any competition and I think that is what most casinos are doing of late, they just need to be smart to sell their market, attacks is not the business driver. You will hardly see them pitching publicly against each other, it is unethical and those who are crafty in attacking one another often do it in shadows and it is never common in my wide search of a thing like this.

I can't disagree with you. Of course, we don't see confrontation here on the forum, there is no such thing as casinos attacking each other. And in their ads, they don't talk badly about each other.
But this is a business in which there is a fight for gamblers, each of whom can bring big profits to the casino, especially if it is crypto, because anyone, even the most successful cryptocurrency lover, can fall into a problematic addiction and methodically send all their coins to the casino.
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If they don't wants to read all of the terms and conditions, they can search for the part about do and don't and trying to understanding the rules. By reading that, we can avoid making a mistake which will not affect to us so we can enjoy playing gambling without have a problem. Besides that, we should make sure that we are playing gambling in the reputable casino so we don't have to worry with anything and only makes sure that we can responsible to ourselves in playing gambling.
It is true that they can only look for important things to understand before gambling, and in my opinion this does not only apply to beginners but also to those who have been gambling for a long time, there must still be research or a good understanding in the announcements that the casino gives to its customers. Because in my opinion, even those who are experienced do not mean that they can freely gamble, but when the casino makes an announcement about updates or others, everyone needs to understand it well. Usually players are reluctant to take the time to read, especially for those who want to gamble to make a profit, I think it is unlikely that they will take the time for it, but when they experience problems with the gambling they do, they will force themselves to understand things that they did not understand from the start.
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Of course, ideally everyone should read the terms and conditions, but in reality it is a huge text file, with legal wording and complex ornate concepts. Therefore, I do not think that anyone spends time reading it. I agree that it is important to read it, but no one does it. If someone cares about their safety and does not want to be deceived by the casino, then it is better for such a gambler to at least read reviews about the casino. And it is better to do this only in trusted places, for example here on the forum.
If they don't wants to read all of the terms and conditions, they can search for the part about do and don't and trying to understanding the rules. By reading that, we can avoid making a mistake which will not affect to us so we can enjoy playing gambling without have a problem. Besides that, we should make sure that we are playing gambling in the reputable casino so we don't have to worry with anything and only makes sure that we can responsible to ourselves in playing gambling.

The whole ToS is the do and don’t. I think the FAQs page is what you meant since it usually explains what’s frequently ask questions(FAQs) about the casino including do’s and don’t.

It’s essential to read the ToS if you are a first time player to familiarize about the rules of the casino. Usually, casino use general terms which means you can already assume the general terms on other casino too if you already familiarize.

Even until now I still read terms but through scanning already. I’m just looking for the specific terms that I knew frequently varies every casino.
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Scam casino is now improving and some of even have the license to operate and soon turn into scam since they are confident that license provider is very slow or always ignored complaints against casino.

The feature that you mention are those from the mediocre scammer which is too obvious now that can be easily notice. License and adding bunch of 3rd party games is now being use by scammer since it can be purchased as package deal to those services that offering assistance to established casino.

They usually spend some money on bonuses since they need to payout early user to attract more customers before they will initiate scam plan. Bitlucy is one example for this because they spend huge money on promotion here in the forum through signature campaigns and giveaway then later become scam when they customers that deposit huge amount of money.

What you say is true, nowadays scam casinos have really improved a lot, in fact, here in our country there are so many casinos that are promoted by well-known influencers but the casino is illegal.

that's the sad thing, they will say something that the community will believe but in the end it's not true, the problem is that they have already deposited money to gamble in the casino but it's too late they can't take out the gambling money they put in.
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I have met many newbies who rush to complain about the casino, but it is clear that they have not fully understood the mechanisms, interfaces, rules, promotions, etc. They often immediately express dissatisfaction, although there is no fault on the part of the casino.
And often the conflict is exhausted after the manager explains the intricacies to this gambler. Doing this patiently and restrainedly, for which they are very grateful for their endurance.
This is impressive
Met like in real life? But how do you know? Did they confess it to you? This is risky on their part because they can get beaten badly by it, I mean mostly by words only. In the online world, we still can see a newbie like this, like for example here in the gambling section of our forum. They still can get the same negative expression if proven guilty but it is not heavy as the offline ones. They must learn from it though because it was only for their own sake or goodness.

There are no benefits if they will get angry about those who corrected them. There are people who are not that dumb but it is just they are only too excited making them to neglect some essential things like knowing what is in the TOS of the platform that they will use.
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while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

new casino always had a bonus for new user I mean this is the easiest way to make people join to their casino. Just and advice don't go all in haha. Some casino sometimes offer free play and can win reward maybe you can try it first.

Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement any kind of ANN is important in my opinion for either new player or an old player because the companies created that so people can watch is going on with the casino itself.

I think we should wait a bit before joining these new casinos, we have to watch them a while and not directly join them without any good feedback or results. I am not saying to joke about them but surely joining them as soon as they announce themselves it is very risky to say the least about such action. I personally am very conservative about joining such a new venture and I always go for the most secure and well established casinos, I know they offer everything I need from such a business and don't feel the need to try anything new.
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while they still have no reputation build yet but the offers are too good to the eye that you want to try it out, be cautious.

new casino always had a bonus for new user I mean this is the easiest way to make people join to their casino. Just and advice don't go all in haha. Some casino sometimes offer free play and can win reward maybe you can try it first.

Why gambling beginners must not joke with casino announcement any kind of ANN is important in my opinion for either new player or an old player because the companies created that so people can watch is going on with the casino itself.
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Yes, recently I saw a new account doing that, as you said they wrote hundreds or even thousands of characters with assumptions that narrowed down to accusations but what made me quite annoyed was that there was no evidence in any form included, meaning it could still be called nonsense, another thing I agree with you that they are most likely competitors from other casinos trying to damage the reputation of a reputable casino that has been running for decades by leading public opinion to the wrong point of view regarding the reputable casino. In the end, this kind of thing cannot always be avoided, I understand that very well and the point is to come back to ourselves, or what I mean is don't jump to conclusions if something you see seems unreasonable, especially if there is no evidence included.
If there are no prove, we don't have to believe to them and skip their accusation. The representative of the casino will trying to make sure that they are not make a mistake and clarify what is happen to that person. They also give a prove that person do something suspicious that makes that person getting his account freeze by the casino.

It is a normal if their competitor wants to damage the reputation of a reputable casino. They don't want to see that casino gets more popular than them so they will do many things to make that casino lose their loyal members. We must make sure that the casino is a reputable casino which have good services and always announce if they have something to tell to their members or want to do something else. They will not hide whatever happens in their site because is means for their members.

It is not surprising that casinos try to manipulate each other's reputations. Their cash flows depend entirely on how many gamblers come to them to play gambling games. Each casino allocates a percentage of profits to advertising campaigns and it is not surprising that they try to attack each other's reputations. Just as unscrupulous casinos outside our forum try to cover up negative reviews with positive ones. It is a big war without rules.
I know that in competition, there are sentiments, selfishness and even attacks, but this is not what is so high for concern the way you painted it, it must be cleverly done to avoid people noticing and the government sanctioning the erring parties. Healthy rivalry is the best in any competition and I think that is what most casinos are doing of late, they just need to be smart to sell their market, attacks is not the business driver. You will hardly see them pitching publicly against each other, it is unethical and those who are crafty in attacking one another often do it in shadows and it is never common in my wide search of a thing like this.
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Of course, ideally everyone should read the terms and conditions, but in reality it is a huge text file, with legal wording and complex ornate concepts. Therefore, I do not think that anyone spends time reading it. I agree that it is important to read it, but no one does it. If someone cares about their safety and does not want to be deceived by the casino, then it is better for such a gambler to at least read reviews about the casino. And it is better to do this only in trusted places, for example here on the forum.
If they don't wants to read all of the terms and conditions, they can search for the part about do and don't and trying to understanding the rules. By reading that, we can avoid making a mistake which will not affect to us so we can enjoy playing gambling without have a problem. Besides that, we should make sure that we are playing gambling in the reputable casino so we don't have to worry with anything and only makes sure that we can responsible to ourselves in playing gambling.
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Compare this to if the new casino has no Bitcointalk ANN, it will take time before many people know that the casino is already scamming their users, on the long run, the casino must have made a handful of money from scamming their customers.

Information is very vital when dealing with new online casinos this days.

That's right but do you know that while looking out for casino that have an announcement thread opened on the forum here they can as well scam users also, cause it's through such information users see from their perspective that the casinos might be legit but later end up as victims of scam, so if you're saying beginners should not joke with announcement how do they know which of them are true enough not to be led to scam, cause I think aside this they can as well scam beginners by offering a new users bonuses to them and definitely use this means to execute their agenda, so how do beginners stay away from such.
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Casinos can also attract bonuses for the first deposit, when the player can get a 100% bonus to the first deposit and this entices to deposit a large amount. And then, as you say, there may be various problems with the withdrawal of funds, or in order to use this bonus, you need to play with your money first. Reading the casino rules is a mandatory step before making a deposit, and maybe it is better to check how the withdrawal works with small funds first.
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somehow I think that those who often ignore the terms and conditions of the casino are not beginners, but those who often change casinos.
beginners tend to be more careful and learn more about the terms and conditions of the casino before making a deposit. beginners will not carelessly make deposits on a gaming website they don't know the rules of.
while those who move from casino to casino, assume that most of the casino's terms and conditions are the same. and there will be no problem if you immediately deposit and start playing.
Who reads all these rules these days? It's so complicated and takes too much time. It's much easier to just check the box and go on to the site without any obstacles. Then many are surprised by force majeure circumstances. They can block the deposit or something else. And why? I didn't want to read the conditions that are attributed to the casino itself. So whose fault is this?

You are absolutely right, nobody read rules or anything else today. People prefer to watch instead of reading. If there were video versions of ToS or any other rules, people would at least bother watching several seconds of it. People are lazy not only to read wall of text in ToS, but also casino announcements and news. When casinos run maintenance for some altcoins, games and etc, people start to panic and ask questions when things go not how they have used to.
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It is not surprising that casinos try to manipulate each other's reputations. Their cash flows depend entirely on how many gamblers come to them to play gambling games. Each casino allocates a percentage of profits to advertising campaigns and it is not surprising that they try to attack each other's reputations. Just as unscrupulous casinos outside our forum try to cover up negative reviews with positive ones. It is a big war without rules.
Yes, that is right because all casinos wants to have a better position in the gambling industry so they can use many ways to make sure that including to "attack" their competitor with "a smoot ways" to make it falls down. We should not believe with the casino from outside because we don't know how good their reputation. We can use casinos from here that already have reputations and we can contact their representative anytime we want. But we must aware of their announcement and follow it if we think we are fine with their announcement.

Of course, ideally everyone should read the terms and conditions, but in reality it is a huge text file, with legal wording and complex ornate concepts. Therefore, I do not think that anyone spends time reading it. I agree that it is important to read it, but no one does it. If someone cares about their safety and does not want to be deceived by the casino, then it is better for such a gambler to at least read reviews about the casino. And it is better to do this only in trusted places, for example here on the forum.
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