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because gambling is the most prohibited by the state of the world and gambling is also the most sinful thing in various religions. so it's true that gambling is always negatively depicted because it can harm people too

No gambling is not prohibited everywhere in the world. Most of the government provide licenses to online and traditional casinos and make good money out of it.

Still, there are many people operating casinos without getting any permission to save taxes, that can cause legal issue for players as well.

Even if gambling is prohibited in some places it is simply because of the effect it usually has on some people and probably the government is just trying to in a way save its citizens. Gambling itself a negative thing hence portraying it negatively is not a wrong doing, in my view.

However, it is not because of this act by the government that makes it to be portrayed negative, it is just because of the fact that it brings a lot of negativity virtually to most of the people that are involved in it, probably because they had the wrong mindset which most of the time is always the case and then they get so overwhelmed until the lose out completely.

I think gambling should be banned in all the places over the world rather than the specified places where gambling is banned all the year just to show people that they are doing much efforts to stop this virus from destroying innocent people lives. Gambling isn’t a negative thing officially but it becomes negative the way people use it by putting bets and winning money in it.

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Not true really, some games are both luck and skill to manage the odds. You cant say poker is all luck, but also it applies generally to all the games I think in terms of money management.

Also inversely, some trading is to some extent luck. Its incalculable odds in many cases, you just rely sometimes on the right news breaking on that day or just a market trend that occurs and builds to help complete a trade profitably. Again the main difference is money and risk management, knowing when your bet, gamble, trade has not taken off and should be cut loose. Alot of people fail that final test imo.

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Stock trading can be labeled as gambling as well but it has been polished even though it's almost the same thing it's just an educated guessing at best. Gambling when done with restraint is a fun game just like any other but some people just go overboard and then eventually loses everything.

Why put it as stock trading when we can just say trading in general ? This is not gambling as you may have made it sound, but I would rather call it an educated gambling which you can be making a lot from as long as you are knowledgeable and experience and that is one thing you can never ever get to achieve from the real gambling world when everything is totally based on luck.

People forget a lot that the only time when you can attribute trading as gambling is when you simply have no strategy at all. Some entered the world of gambling for the wrong reasons and when they start losing a lot, they start trying to see if there is a little chance luck could shine on them to recover what they have lost and stop gambling and unfortunately for them, after so many years and months, they are still trying to recover till date and have turned themselves to a liability and nuisance to the society.

Don’t know why trading is being discussed here and neither if consider it as some educated gambling. Both are poles apart. Gambling is all about luck and opposite to this, trading is all about skills plus knowledge. A person can survive in gambling with help of his luck but he stands zero chance in trading world. Some wild guesses do not return profits in trading. For me, there is nothing similar in them.

With trading there is some degree of luck as well when you do indeed want to make some profits, But with gambling its 100% about luck and nothing else.

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Quote from: yoseph on May 15, 2018, 07:34:45 PM

Stock trading can be labeled as gambling as well but it has been polished even though it's almost the same thing it's just an educated guessing at best. Gambling when done with restraint is a fun game just like any other but some people just go overboard and then eventually loses everything.

Why put it as stock trading when we can just say trading in general ? This is not gambling as you may have made it sound, but I would rather call it an educated gambling which you can be making a lot from as long as you are knowledgeable and experience and that is one thing you can never ever get to achieve from the real gambling world when everything is totally based on luck.

People forget a lot that the only time when you can attribute trading as gambling is when you simply have no strategy at all. Some entered the world of gambling for the wrong reasons and when they start losing a lot, they start trying to see if there is a little chance luck could shine on them to recover what they have lost and stop gambling and unfortunately for them, after so many years and months, they are still trying to recover till date and have turned themselves to a liability and nuisance to the society.

Don’t know why trading is being discussed here and neither if consider it as some educated gambling. Both are poles apart. Gambling is all about luck and opposite to this, trading is all about skills plus knowledge. A person can survive in gambling with help of his luck but he stands zero chance in trading world. Some wild guesses do not return profits in trading. For me, there is nothing similar in them.

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Because in some religion the gambling is considered as sin so they are spreading everywhere it is a bad thing to do.And another reason is most of the people in gambling will lose their money so they will say others that is it scam or don't play again.But people failed to understand that gambling is not a money making purpose,it is just an entertainment purpose which involves risking the real money so the excitement is more.

Gambling is made totally for fun, it was just been tagged negatively due to people who abused it and became too greedy in it, since greed is included in deadly sins and we all knew how greedy players are when they play in gambling especially if they don't just considered it as game.

Indeed, it is a game that sometimes (or always?) leads to addiction. The op said something about trading industry seems like he misunderstood something, trading is a serious but not addicting legal way of earning money unlike in the gambling that purely depends on the player's ability to ace the game and its luck.

That is what I wanted to say. Gambling is all about luck. You don’t have any control on it and your strategies are just not working out in any case if you aren’t that much lucky someday. Believe me, no skill can have any impact on your results when you are gambling. So why to go for such option that is biggest risky for your money? Why to gamble when you already know you will be getting loss? Think over it.

I think gambling is just entertainment and maybe it just becomes wrong if the money we use to bet is compromised and there is more that is meant to be used probably for family and leave all responsibility for our loved ones just to gamble. Gambling has always been described negatively since from the past

I disagree to that, no matter what excuses we have just to depend gambling, we can't change the fact that it is wrong, betting our money is wrong, so expect that many people will give negative comments about gambling, they are only saying what experience they have had when they played gambling the first time, they just learned their lesson, that is why they are discouraging everyone to try gambling since it is not worth it.

Well, whether gambling is a wrong action or not, it entirely depends on the individuals involved. If they are of the opinion that losing hard earned money by placing bets and depending completely on luck is a ridiculous plus harmful act, then absolutely it will be wrong but if someone thinks that it is pretty much fine to utilize some bucks this way, he won’t name it a crime certainly. For me, this is harmful so it is wrong also.

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because gambling teaches us to bet money without doing any work. it is very bad in the eyes of society. but actually there is a good side of gambling, which is the basic science of trading.

Yes,that's the reason why people has a negative perspective of gambling.They consider it as a bad habit or vices which sometimes destroy family relationship.If the person involved in this kind of habit she/he may consider many risk of lossing not just money but a good family ties.Always put limitations to everything.

I can never say well to gambling because I have seen many people in my life who lose everything in gambling. They have no respect in society and people do not interact with them because they are thought the worst people in the society and if you relate with them others will think that you are also a gambler. They even have no respect in their families.

If something is not good, then we cannot say that it is a very good thing and that you will get a lot of money if you go for any such thing. We need to be realistic to ourselves and that being realistic, there is hardly any kind of reason because of which we can say that one should go for gambling. Gambling is the worst thing to do and that the moment you will go for it, our get ready to lose most of your money.

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because gambling is the most prohibited by the state of the world and gambling is also the most sinful thing in various religions. so it's true that gambling is always negatively depicted because it can harm people too

No gambling is not prohibited everywhere in the world. Most of the government provide licenses to online and traditional casinos and make good money out of it.

Still, there are many people operating casinos without getting any permission to save taxes, that can cause legal issue for players as well.

Even if gambling is prohibited in some places it is simply because of the effect it usually has on some people and probably the government is just trying to in a way save its citizens. Gambling itself a negative thing hence portraying it negatively is not a wrong doing, in my view.

However, it is not because of this act by the government that makes it to be portrayed negative, it is just because of the fact that it brings a lot of negativity virtually to most of the people that are involved in it, probably because they had the wrong mindset which most of the time is always the case and then they get so overwhelmed until the lose out completely.

There are hardly any area in this world that is free of gambling. Although there are rules in different countries about banning of gambling. It is prohibited in so many countries but still that seems to be useless because people want to get money through them and then ultimately fail. This game never let you win in a row and never ever make you a rich person. So don’t just go in there.

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Quote from: yoseph on May 15, 2018, 07:34:45 PM

Stock trading can be labeled as gambling as well but it has been polished even though it's almost the same thing it's just an educated guessing at best. Gambling when done with restraint is a fun game just like any other but some people just go overboard and then eventually loses everything.

Why put it as stock trading when we can just say trading in general ? This is not gambling as you may have made it sound, but I would rather call it an educated gambling which you can be making a lot from as long as you are knowledgeable and experience and that is one thing you can never ever get to achieve from the real gambling world when everything is totally based on luck.

People forget a lot that the only time when you can attribute trading as gambling is when you simply have no strategy at all. Some entered the world of gambling for the wrong reasons and when they start losing a lot, they start trying to see if there is a little chance luck could shine on them to recover what they have lost and stop gambling and unfortunately for them, after so many years and months, they are still trying to recover till date and have turned themselves to a liability and nuisance to the society.

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Quote from: MidKnight on May 27, 2018, 03:50:27 AM

Because it's not a healthy industry. It's a vice and not a hobby that could make you more productive or focused in things that you do. You could easily get sucked in type of situation that feels like hell where getting out is another miracle.

Why won’t be anything that is harmful, as you have also mentioned, be portrayed negatively or prohibited? Gambling has the power to ruin anyone’s life. This world has only few gamblers that really became rich by this game. I have seen people committing suicide because of losing all capital. Anyway, a sensible person who loves his life won’t go for such an option which can turn his life into a living hell.

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Kidding aside, but Maybe bacause movies make a great influence on the peoples thinking about gambling and casino. Almost all the action movies ive watched has a casino scene which has gun fight scenes and most people there are illegal doers. Another thing is that, people who loses money has a high temper and can do anything even killing people. Other than these, i dont think there are more.

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Exactly my concern, and the more surprising part is that even Bitcoin and trading is portrayed as negative almost everywhere. This is a taboo that we need to get rid off. I am tired of my friends and family asking me to get off the bitcoin scene and concentrate on a full time job, but I just cannot do it. I love gambling and spending time here on the forum and I would do anything to stay here. I wish people knew the advantages of gambling and that it is not anything shady or unethical. You are using your knowledge and playing on your luck.

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Quote from: Supercrypt on May 29, 2018, 09:04:04 AM

Gambling itself a negative thing hence portraying it negatively is not a wrong doing, in my view.

Gambling is not really a negative thing.
Gambling is just another way to spend time and money. Unfortunately too many people don't understand this.
Unfortunately too many players are poor people that gamble with the hope for a better life, ending up even poorer and in many cases addicted.
So the problem is the gamblers' mindset, not the gambling per se.

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Quote from: ongkok87 on May 25, 2018, 11:07:28 AM

because gambling is the most prohibited by the state of the world and gambling is also the most sinful thing in various religions. so it's true that gambling is always negatively depicted because it can harm people too

No gambling is not prohibited everywhere in the world. Most of the government provide licenses to online and traditional casinos and make good money out of it.

Still, there are many people operating casinos without getting any permission to save taxes, that can cause legal issue for players as well.

Even if gambling is prohibited in some places it is simply because of the effect it usually has on some people and probably the government is just trying to in a way save its citizens. Gambling itself a negative thing hence portraying it negatively is not a wrong doing, in my view.

However, it is not because of this act by the government that makes it to be portrayed negative, it is just because of the fact that it brings a lot of negativity virtually to most of the people that are involved in it, probably because they had the wrong mindset which most of the time is always the case and then they get so overwhelmed until the lose out completely.

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Because it is commonly known as vice, at least, regulatory speaking. Gambling, alcohol, prostitution. The illegal versions of it, anyway. In fact, almost anything that can be illegal, is portrayed negatively almost everywhere. That's just how the world is. Just look at Bitcoin. Apart from the forums and some media, it's generally still portrayed negatively.

Accept that some things can never be accepted.

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Thats BS, it doesnt have to lead to certain addiction. The important thing is to vary habits not continually repeat. So anything can become a negative, like drinking can be fine with a meal or can lead to addiction. Even plain food by itself can become unhealthy if people fail to moderate themselves. Its not just gambling, any part of life can overly negative if left un-adjusted.

Quote from: rocketbits on May 22, 2018, 04:09:11 AM

But whatever people say, this is wrong so it is wrong. No one can make this better by saying anything about it. We all know these gamblers are just earning money that is virtual. They even don’t know how is winning their money. They spend everything in gambling and at the end of day, they just become zero. They never win permanently. Their greed becomes so strong that never let them grow.

This seems to be stating absolutes as a certainty. It is possible to retain some earnings and only gamble part of the winnings. Some do gain from a method of careful controlled risk and formal gameplay. Most of us arent that disciplined and we do not profit, I also think some manage to pull it off.

Yeah and it is the main issue of gambling that it creates many other crimes like you mentioned here. Gambler is the mother of crimes and criminals. Gamblers can do any illegal activity to make money for gambling addiction. The main reason for negative treat is this worse creation. When there is no gambling there will be no or less crimes in the community.

I personally agree with this thing that gambling do leads to many other crime activities in the same way like smoking leads to other drug addictions. We can easily understand this thing as the person who is playing gambling would face financial crisis, he would do any type of activity to overcome his crisis and this activity would lead him to a crime and soon he would be known as a criminal.

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Quote from: Tigorss on May 22, 2018, 11:28:49 AM

most people after gambling get defeated and make trouble can by killing, stealing or others that become public order disturbed so that people think it is a negative thing activity.

Frankly, a lot people willing to do bad things for gambling when they are already addicted. It can be small crime or even the big one. The effect of gambling proved bad for most people and that is why, in many places, gambling got its bad name.

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Quote from: ongkok87 on May 25, 2018, 11:07:28 AM

because gambling is the most prohibited by the state of the world and gambling is also the most sinful thing in various religions. so it's true that gambling is always negatively depicted because it can harm people too

No gambling is not prohibited everywhere in the world. Most of the government provide licenses to online and traditional casinos and make good money out of it.

Still, there are many people operating casinos without getting any permission to save taxes, that can cause legal issue for players as well.

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Because in some religion the gambling is considered as sin so they are spreading everywhere it is a bad thing to do.And another reason is most of the people in gambling will lose their money so they will say others that is it scam or don't play again.But people failed to understand that gambling is not a money making purpose,it is just an entertainment purpose which involves risking the real money so the excitement is more.

Gambling is made totally for fun, it was just been tagged negatively due to people who abused it and became too greedy in it, since greed is included in deadly sins and we all knew how greedy players are when they play in gambling especially if they don't just considered it as game.

Indeed, it is a game that sometimes (or always?) leads to addiction. The op said something about trading industry seems like he misunderstood something, trading is a serious but not addicting legal way of earning money unlike in the gambling that purely depends on the player's ability to ace the game and its luck.

That is what I wanted to say. Gambling is all about luck. You don’t have any control on it and your strategies are just not working out in any case if you aren’t that much lucky someday. Believe me, no skill can have any impact on your results when you are gambling. So why to go for such option that is biggest risky for your money? Why to gamble when you already know you will be getting loss? Think over it.

I think gambling is just entertainment and maybe it just becomes wrong if the money we use to bet is compromised and there is more that is meant to be used probably for family and leave all responsibility for our loved ones just to gamble. Gambling has always been described negatively since from the past

I disagree to that, no matter what excuses we have just to depend gambling, we can't change the fact that it is wrong, betting our money is wrong, so expect that many people will give negative comments about gambling, they are only saying what experience they have had when they played gambling the first time, they just learned their lesson, that is why they are discouraging everyone to try gambling since it is not worth it.

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The best way to put that is simply because some people bet WAY MORE then they are willing to lose, if you just put a small percent back that doesn't hurt your finances, I do not see a problem!!!

Control is the key!

in my opinion, any act or substance that harms humans beings in any way whether mentally, physical, emotionally or financially comes under the prohibited category. Gambling has ruined lives of thousands of players and yet many are destined to meet the same end. It is very obvious to portray this negatively so that people will stay away from it and this is best in their own interests. This game can turn life of a gambler into a living hell within a blink of an eye.

But whatever people say, this is wrong so it is wrong. No one can make this better by saying anything about it. We all know these gamblers are just earning money that is virtual. They even don’t know how is winning their money. They spend everything in gambling and at the end of day, they just become zero. They never win permanently. Their greed becomes so strong that never let them grow.

In my opinion, trading and gambling both are the travelers of same boat and the only difference they have is that how these two things are conducted. I think people like to go with trading instead of gambling due to its bad reputation outside the world. We can easily see that the people who play gambling are how treated in the society. No one even wants to talk to them.

No, they are not. They will only be travelers of the same boat, if the individual who is trading is doing so without any knowledge and any strategy. I am a trader and I have been a trader for over 3 years and making huge money from trading, and it pisses me off when some people who do not even have any idea about trading associating it with gambling.

Yes in a way, we could say you still gamble, but trading is more of an educated gambling which if done right, you will make a lot from, and that is one thing you can never get from real gambling. I have done both, and they are totally different.

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Quote from: MidKnight on May 27, 2018, 03:50:27 AM

Because it's not a healthy industry. It's a vice and not a hobby that could make you more productive or focused in things that you do. You could easily get sucked in type of situation that feels like hell where getting out is another miracle.

I agree with that, gambling is a game wherein we could gain profits(if we are winning) or we could lose the money that we earned by working hard(if we are losing), however since most of the players are losing every time they are playing gambling, that is why they can't help but to give negative feedback about it so the other would be discourage on playing it which is a good thing because gambling is a very dangerous game.

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