Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? - page 23.

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Quote from: Baofeng on April 21, 2018, 11:41:47 PM

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Quote from: jeremypwr on April 21, 2018, 11:57:26 AM

Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

Very addicting! Once addiction takes over , theres no way you can control it. You'll be drained financially, it can destroy a family, and worse you cant stop gambling.
The OP has made a point, but in general gambling has a lot reason why it has a negative impact in a person's life and that view could never be changed, for gamling has known to be destroying lives and even family financially and emotionally.

Exactly, its very addicting and it has ruined a lot of lives in the past. How many times we have read that there are many suicides or murders connected to gambling? Right. Too many.

For me this is the number 1 reasons why gambling is portrayed negatively specially countries which is developed. They have seen so many times that gambling indeed destroys families and relationships so its better to stop them before it totally destroyed everyone in the community.

This is why developed countries legalize gambling? I get your point, and that's right for me. Developing countries are still a lot of people who are less well off in economic terms, and for those who have a gambling addiction will make their family relationships destroyed.

In contrast with developed countries, where people living within them have enough economics even more than enough. So for they gamble just for fun alone. For them gambling is a place to get rid of saturation. But for the poor the gamble is a place for a source of income.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 21, 2018, 04:41:29 PM

Quote from: jeremypwr on April 21, 2018, 11:57:26 AM

Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

Very addicting! Once addiction takes over , theres no way you can control it. You'll be drained financially, it can destroy a family, and worse you cant stop gambling.
The OP has made a point, but in general gambling has a lot reason why it has a negative impact in a person's life and that view could never be changed, for gamling has known to be destroying lives and even family financially and emotionally.

Exactly, its very addicting and it has ruined a lot of lives in the past. How many times we have read that there are many suicides or murders connected to gambling? Right. Too many.

For me this is the number 1 reasons why gambling is portrayed negatively specially countries which is developed. They have seen so many times that gambling indeed destroys families and relationships so its better to stop them before it totally destroyed everyone in the community.

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Quote from: jeremypwr on April 21, 2018, 11:57:26 AM

Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

How is gambling a hobby gambling is nothing but a source of income of people they act in a way that it is there hobby but when they win they feel satisfied because it solves all there financial problems if people continue to gamble to earn a source of income they will always be addicted to it

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Quote from: jeremypwr on April 21, 2018, 11:57:26 AM

Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

Very addicting! Once addiction takes over , theres no way you can control it. You'll be drained financially, it can destroy a family, and worse you cant stop gambling.
The OP has made a point, but in general gambling has a lot reason why it has a negative impact in a person's life and that view could never be changed, for gamling has known to be destroying lives and even family financially and emotionally.

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Quote from: Lionidas on April 21, 2018, 01:49:19 PM

You can see the negativity it gets all around the world just from what happened in the Philippines early last year.
With that guy who lost all his money and all his mother&fathers money at the casino and then set casino tables on fire and shot up the place.
With news like that coming fourth about what can happen if you gamble and lost so much no wonder it has garnished a bad reputation on a global scale.

Gambling is to bad on wealth if you got addicted to it, I also heard just related on that case on the Philippines.
On June 3, 2017, A gunman burst into a casino in the Philippine capital on the said date, setting gaming tables alight and killing at least 36 people who suffocated in thick smoke, in an attack claimed by Isis but which officials believe was a botched robbery. The gunman killed himself in a hotel room after being shot.
See? that's why some people had a bad comment on gambling because of there some cases like that cause of gambling.

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You can make different kind of technical analysis in trading and by that it can guide your decisions in placing your share/s while in gambling even though you can make multiple strategies that may succeed at first tries but it wouldn't last for sure, the Casinos and their system was designed for you to play always with lower chances of winning and obviously they got the highest probability to win in long term so in short you can't beat the system.

Gambling as a business is good for making a huge amount of money and profit for the owners. I experienced an addiction in gambling before and I lose a big amount of my savings in one of the Bitcoin gambling site and I really, really regret it, it was so stressful, if I can only bring back the time but what happened already happened, luckily I surpassed and decided to stop my addiction to gambling before it's too late.

I guess you have never tried to gamble and lose a big amount of your money.

Well, ever since at the time of Christ and traditionally gambling is portrayed as negative or even considered it as a sin, maybe because it always involve money and mostly if a person is addicted in gambling nothing can stop him and they will continue to gamble in better and worst situation and until such time that he will used money that not intended to gamble and gambler mostly no more time for family and prioritize gambling after all.

You can see the negativity it gets all around the world just from what happened in the Philippines early last year.
With that guy who lost all his money and all his mother&fathers money at the casino and then set casino tables on fire and shot up the place.
With news like that coming fourth about what can happen if you gamble and lost so much no wonder it has garnished a bad reputation on a global scale.

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Quote from: avikz on April 18, 2018, 05:56:01 PM

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?

It is a social taboo and it's already part of the belief in the society through religious teachings that gambling is evil, negative and bad. You know that beliefs are passed from generations to generations and its changing. Maybe in the future the thought about gambling will become positive when governments are promoting good benefits of gambling or sharing those people who got their fortune through it. We can't change this stand about gambling for now but time will come that it will.

I am not that much religious person but still gambling is really worst thing according to me. If you have invested there any gambling platform will it give return to end of the day. It is not all a true thing mate.
I see the gambling just wasting your fund on dustpin. Instead of that you guys devoting gambling can donate the poor people near to your home side mate. Even government and shit politicians getting bribe and allowing people loose the money if they are third world country too.

We have different description of what worst is and if you think that gambling is, it's your opinion then. But you may seem not to understand what's the real discussion here. It's not about the fortune, gambling platform, return or anything that's related to the outcome that you can get with gambling. But it's about on how the society thinks about gambling and it's already part of our generation and belief that gambling is bad, negative and everyone should stay away from it.

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Gambling can viewed as a disease or illness, as it has been proven to be addicting.
Like an vice, it's only a problem if it becomes too serious and get out of control.
If you know when and have the ability to stop when you choose, it can be an enjoyable hobby.

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Don't ask why something is portrayed negatively, ask who is the author, who are supporters. Do that when something is positively portrayed too. Very loudly portrayed things are in most cases wrong, whether they are positive or negative. Don't trust in everything you see or hear, do your own research and then make your judgment.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 AM

'Alcohol can kill right away that's true, but I wouldn't say the same about cigarettes. Cigarettes are supposedly killing you when you chronically smoke them during a long period of time. Same with gambling, if you constantly abuse it you may be deprived of all your money and even go in debt which can potentially kill you. Not only gambling, cigarettes and alcohol have a bad reputation, there are other things, overeating for example, which is also killing you if you abuse it. In short, gambling is not so bad if it is not abused, and btw it is portrayed positively in many books and movies.

Too bad this meaningful discussion has derailed to Alcohol and cigarettes.I don't know what's your point here but I know for sure ALCOHOL don't kill right away.Never heard of someone chucking 2 pegs of vodka and suffocating to death.Did you ?

Yes I did. I thought everyone knows that alcohol causes death, and in some cases immediately. According to info by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention an estimated 88,000 people die from alcohol-related causes annually in the United States alone. And according to the World Health Organization's info in 2012, 3.3 million deaths were attributable to alcohol consumption. Of course more than 99% of those deaths didn't happen right after consumption but some of them did. Also I'm not sure I understand what are trying to say. Do you mean that gambling is worse than alcohol or or what is your point?

I understand his point, its about how people see things, how they understand what is happening around and how they judge without any thinking. You can think what ever you wish but doing anything without control is harmful, some things will get you faster others slower, point is if you don't control it, that will control you. Cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, gambling, sex, work, and everything else in my point of view its all the same. In the end we will die, like Bukwski said find what you love and let it kill you, at least enjoy as long as it last, to last longer you need to know what you are doing.

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That's the problem with the society today, anything they think that involves money would always have a negative feedback. Even trading have negative feedbacks but not like gambling. I think people are so used to hearing gambling and automatically they think it would be a negative thing that's why they tell you to stay away from it. And also sometimes it is based on experience, like a family member of them are addicted to gambling to a point wherein they are unlucky everytime they bet on something. And we can't take away that feeling of getting used to by some, but we can minimize that way of thinking if we don't gamble that much.

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Quote from: Patatas on April 21, 2018, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 AM

'Alcohol can kill right away that's true, but I wouldn't say the same about cigarettes. Cigarettes are supposedly killing you when you chronically smoke them during a long period of time. Same with gambling, if you constantly abuse it you may be deprived of all your money and even go in debt which can potentially kill you. Not only gambling, cigarettes and alcohol have a bad reputation, there are other things, overeating for example, which is also killing you if you abuse it. In short, gambling is not so bad if it is not abused, and btw it is portrayed positively in many books and movies.

Too bad this meaningful discussion has derailed to Alcohol and cigarettes.I don't know what's your point here but I know for sure ALCOHOL don't kill right away.Never heard of someone chucking 2 pegs of vodka and suffocating to death.Did you ?

Yes I did. I thought everyone knows that alcohol causes death, and in some cases immediately. According to info by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention an estimated 88,000 people die from alcohol-related causes annually in the United States alone. And according to the World Health Organization's info in 2012, 3.3 million deaths were attributable to alcohol consumption. Of course more than 99% of those deaths didn't happen right after consumption but some of them did. Also I'm not sure I understand what are trying to say. Do you mean that gambling is worse than alcohol or or what is your point?

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It is because it is closely associated with playing with hard earned money. There are other times when people would gamble because the money they have with them that are intended for gambling did not come from their hard work- might be from corruption, from robbery, among others. The bottom line is, it is a conscious wasting of money with due disregard to those who have less in life, economically-speaking. It is similar to those gluttons that are disregarding the needs of the hungry. I think this has something to do with the culture we are all in, and you know culture, it is difficult to stop unless you kill the race per se.

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Quote from: avikz on April 18, 2018, 05:56:01 PM

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?

It is a social taboo and it's already part of the belief in the society through religious teachings that gambling is evil, negative and bad. You know that beliefs are passed from generations to generations and its changing. Maybe in the future the thought about gambling will become positive when governments are promoting good benefits of gambling or sharing those people who got their fortune through it. We can't change this stand about gambling for now but time will come that it will.

I am not that much religious person but still gambling is really worst thing according to me. If you have invested there any gambling platform will it give return to end of the day. It is not all a true thing mate.
I see the gambling just wasting your fund on dustpin. Instead of that you guys devoting gambling can donate the poor people near to your home side mate. Even government and shit politicians getting bribe and allowing people loose the money if they are third world country too.

For identifying gambling as a useless and destructive act, a person does not need to be a believer of some religion. Anyone with common sense like you can tell that this is not a game worthy of time or money. Moreover, it is not like people follow everything that their religion says. Humans are weak at controlling their desires and we are mostly slave of them. That is the only reason why people gamble.

You're right.However psychology has completely a different way of looking at it.Desire is just a fancy name given to a passive addiction.When think of whatever you desire of,your brain secrets the dopamine and then the chemicals give you that happy feeling for seconds.In reality,the one's who have control over these emotions can tackle any addiction before they fall victim to it.Others get used to this chemical secretion and follow it until they let their life dwell on it.

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Quote from: Patatas on April 21, 2018, 01:24:38 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 AM

'Alcohol can kill right away that's true, but I wouldn't say the same about cigarettes. Cigarettes are supposedly killing you when you chronically smoke them during a long period of time. Same with gambling, if you constantly abuse it you may be deprived of all your money and even go in debt which can potentially kill you. Not only gambling, cigarettes and alcohol have a bad reputation, there are other things, overeating for example, which is also killing you if you abuse it. In short, gambling is not so bad if it is not abused, and btw it is portrayed positively in many books and movies.

Too bad this meaningful discussion has derailed to Alcohol and cigarettes.I don't know what's your point here but I know for sure ALCOHOL don't kill right away.Never heard of someone chucking 2 pegs of vodka and suffocating to death.Did you ?

Quote from: cfif123 on April 20, 2018, 11:31:03 PM

because gambling is seen as a bad job and can harm ourselves of course. because the gambling is banned by religion and the country so wherever the gambling is certainly in a negative view in any country

Wow very creative answer.Go away Shit-Feast.

The essence of this problem is an addiction, trading and gambling will be wrong if excessive. Because it will cause greed and greed will make miserable. Trading with strategy will not be wrong, and gambling with reasons for fun will not go wrong. Cigarettes and alcohol will be wrong too if, with addiction, no doctor advise to smoke and drink alcohol with addiction.

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Quote from: xIIImaL on April 19, 2018, 09:00:28 AM

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Quote from: avikz on April 18, 2018, 05:56:01 PM

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?

It is a social taboo and it's already part of the belief in the society through religious teachings that gambling is evil, negative and bad. You know that beliefs are passed from generations to generations and its changing. Maybe in the future the thought about gambling will become positive when governments are promoting good benefits of gambling or sharing those people who got their fortune through it. We can't change this stand about gambling for now but time will come that it will.

I am not that much religious person but still gambling is really worst thing according to me. If you have invested there any gambling platform will it give return to end of the day. It is not all a true thing mate.
I see the gambling just wasting your fund on dustpin. Instead of that you guys devoting gambling can donate the poor people near to your home side mate. Even government and shit politicians getting bribe and allowing people loose the money if they are third world country too.

For identifying gambling as a useless and destructive act, a person does not need to be a believer of some religion. Anyone with common sense like you can tell that this is not a game worthy of time or money. Moreover, it is not like people follow everything that their religion says. Humans are weak at controlling their desires and we are mostly slave of them. That is the only reason why people gamble.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 AM

'Alcohol can kill right away that's true, but I wouldn't say the same about cigarettes. Cigarettes are supposedly killing you when you chronically smoke them during a long period of time. Same with gambling, if you constantly abuse it you may be deprived of all your money and even go in debt which can potentially kill you. Not only gambling, cigarettes and alcohol have a bad reputation, there are other things, overeating for example, which is also killing you if you abuse it. In short, gambling is not so bad if it is not abused, and btw it is portrayed positively in many books and movies.

Too bad this meaningful discussion has derailed to Alcohol and cigarettes.I don't know what's your point here but I know for sure ALCOHOL don't kill right away.Never heard of someone chucking 2 pegs of vodka and suffocating to death.Did you ?

Quote from: cfif123 on April 20, 2018, 11:31:03 PM

because gambling is seen as a bad job and can harm ourselves of course. because the gambling is banned by religion and the country so wherever the gambling is certainly in a negative view in any country

Wow very creative answer.Go away Shit-Feast.

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Quote from: St4yInTh3D4rk on April 20, 2018, 11:30:11 AM

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Trading and gambling should both be done under the same rules - NO ADDICTION POLICY. We should only gamble/trade that we can afford to lose, and there's nothing wrong in doing both of these (until someone develops some amount of guilt over their decisions in case they lose).

Agree with it,no addiction policy is what everyone need to follow either in gambling or trading but both involves luck too.People won't have any gui;t as long as they are making money even it is a sin in their religion so it all based on money but some people covering their inability to do them with religion.

It's hard to implement that No Addiction Policy as we can't always monitor gamblers and if we will just rely on their selves we will never know if they're following because at the end of the day no one can stop them from getting hook to it but only their selves.

Gambling always portrait as negative because on how people waste their money to gamble and sometimes even their personal lives get compromise with this.

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because gambling is seen as a bad job and can harm ourselves of course. because the gambling is banned by religion and the country so wherever the gambling is certainly in a negative view in any country

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 AM

Quote from: adaseb on April 19, 2018, 07:51:49 PM

Alcohol, Cigarettes and Gambling are all pretty much portrayed the same way. Even they are all legal in most nations.

The reason why Alcohol and Cigarettes are bad is because they are bad for your health and can kill you and cause harm.

Gambling can't kill you because you don't consume it but it can make you an addict like the above and it can cause harmful effects to your financial situation.

Hence the reason why it has a bad rap.

Alcohol can kill right away that's true, but I wouldn't say the same about cigarettes. Cigarettes are supposedly killing you when you chronically smoke them during a long period of time. Same with gambling, if you constantly abuse it you may be deprived of all your money and even go in debt which can potentially kill you. Not only gambling, cigarettes and alcohol have a bad reputation, there are other things, overeating for example, which is also killing you if you abuse it. In short, gambling is not so bad if it is not abused, and btw it is portrayed positively in many books and movies.

Right.They all go with same effects in the end.Addiction is considered the main root of all these negative habits.Gambling may be found legal in most of the countries since its main goal is for entertainment only.But people chose to overestimate it and leads to addiction.From there negative results will follow once it will not be avoided as early as possible.

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Quote from: avikz on April 18, 2018, 05:56:01 PM

I am not a veteran in this gambling industry so trying to understand what majority of the people thinks about it.

I have seen a lot of threads in this section as well as in other online forums which always protrayes gambling as a negative line of earning money online. I have seen people comparing gambling with alcohol addiction. I have seen people actively trying to discourage others from getting into gambling industry. What's wrong with gambling?

It is just another business and also legal in many countries. People who buys lottery tickets are also gambling only.

In trading industry, you bet on your speculation and in gambling industry, you bet on your luck. In both trading and gambling, there is a risk of loosing money. So why trading is seen as a good way of making money and exactly opposite for gambling?

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?

Mostly where are you going all over the world gambling is portrayed or criticize like a sin and we cannot put off that in the mind of every people,because since from the beginning,gambling is a great sin and can make people turn to indebtiness,therefore if you are a gambler people will judge you according to your personal habits and behavior and not you being as "persona" or a human.

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