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Interestingly, these groups usually no longer exist after a bull run, they simply close the corresponding channels (Telegram, ...) without warning as soon as the first trades are really off the mark ... which of course usually happens when the bull run is over. In a bull run it is relatively easy to say: "Invest in XYZ, you will make xxx percent". Anyone can actually do that.

But you always have to keep this in mind: Even professional traders like Tone Vays are usually only just over 50% right with their trades, so why should a trading group achieve better results.

I personally paid and lost money from trading groups in the longterm. You learn a lot during that experience. It's double trouble too not worth it, lose in trading and lose in subscription. Not to mention lose in time...

You're absolutely right about this bull phenomena.

First, you hear about trading groups, see their profits and even follow it by profiting during a bull run or shortly before. So you are starting to think you hit gold and found a great trading group, not realizing that everyone makes it big in a bull run.

I knew this during forex even but I thought crypto was a bit different. Naw it's not

Secondly, you see the groups close and reopen somewhere else. And quiet down and tell everyone they are now waiting and being cautious. Scammers are rinse and repeat.

I haven’t met anyone who made any decent profit long term from any trading group. I am not talking about being profitable for 6 months. Try and be profitable thru a bear market and sideways market, most of those groups arent.

You can easily make money in a bull market. You can buy pretty much anything and you make a profit. This doesn’t take a genius. What is difficult is surviving the bear markets or worse, when markets are just trading sideways. See how those groups perform then.

This is some kind of trading signal service I think. Are trading signals able to change our previous trading results?

Lots of newbie crypto and newbie traders are coming, especially with the fomo halving, of course this is the right moment to catch fish that are hungry for profit without making any effort. Often signal service providers act and are ready to convince every newbie and make a profit.

Apart from that, this is legal because the decision is in the hands of the newbie.

It is better to learn and be independent than to depend on signals that do not necessarily provide positive results.

Yes, as some has a money, some are desperate, and some are simply curious if what they can get there versus to the free version or versus if they will trade on their own. I still think it's better to trade on our own because it teaches us to be independent and makes us more stronger and skilful.

Most importantly we can't get scammed and lose more money evenly aside from our personal loss when trading. When we sell something, we are being asked for a proof but sellers can still lie although we can ask the help of other experienced users to legit check it for us. inexperienced traders can make a successful trade sometimes but it's not sustainable and not enough to say that their strategy is good.

Guys,
I think you got Us wrong, let me try to explain,

We provide access to over 40 groups,
many of which are verified on whop.com. Simply visit website, click on the Trading section, and select Verified Whop Traders.

For instance, WWG at https://whop.com/marketplace/wealthgroup/ has an original monthly price of $225,
or check out Haven Group at https://whop.com/marketplace/thehaven/ for an original price of $250 per month.

Our fee offers access to 40+ paid groups for one affordable price $170,
This allows you to explore and understand what you can find or see "behind closed doors."

It helps you assess whether it benefits you, if you need it, and if it aligns with your trading style.

 This way, you can avoid paying individual fees for each group to determine its suitability for your trading needs.

See?

If someone who has found and invented all of these strategies and they truly are effective, they should make of it first than the others. I know that some might say that they're just sharing their blessings to everyone, I doubt it that it is like that.

Yeah, I know right.

When it's come to these strategies and effectively working to make money like being on a signal, you would only be selfish to yourself not unless you're making money from subscriptions. 

that is my take here, if someone is truly making money out of their strategies, then why would they share it to others?  because if their technique is indeed working, i would say keep it to themselves and rake profits as much as they can.
up until now, no single trading signal group is known to live with their claims. most are just promising high percentage of profits but in reality, you will get screwed by their signals. because most of the time, their signal is already too late for you to catch up the train.

I get it that having access to many crypto top traders worldwide is an advantage. But if there's something that makes us wanna think is that, while you have premium access to these signals and information is that you will have to enjoy taking profits with them.

If I've got this vital information and it's proven, then I wouldn't be sharing that and will keep it to myself until I think that I'm done with that. There's no problem if you guys sell it or not because no one can stop these markets and products.

But if they're proven and tested and you're taken wrong by the majority here, prove everyone wrong and make yourselves wealthy through it.

Exactly, the fact that they must know that this trading has an unpredictable nature of financial markets.
This has always been in my mind that all trading analysis services aren't good and most of them turn out into scams, there's no way to profitable outcomes for them but instead, they are milking people with their nonsense service.

Make your own analysis and manage your own risk, the crypto market rapidly changes and is unpredictable.

Free or not, then you should really be that watchful on whatever analysis that they've been throwing out but i do agree on some points that its not really that bad on getting yourself involved with these groups.
For free ones then i would consider it to be that somewhat beneficial but of course you would really be still needing to validate whether those analysis are realistic or really just that simply generic.

Its never been that recommended that you would really be joining up with those paid groups or signals on which we could really that actually be able to make on our own. It is really just that a waste
of money if you would really be having those kind of considerations on which you could really that actually be able to make on your own. It is really just that there are those people who are really that
too lazy when it comes to these kind of stuffs and this is why they do really end up with this kind of option.

Somehow its really that true that having those groups specially free ones wont really be that a bad thing if you do really just do know on how to make use of those free information on which
you could always make out that kind of comparison in between yours and theirs when it comes to those analysis. You would really be able to find for yourself on which one is really that
something that you should follow.

There is no guarantee that your best signals will actually turn out to be the best. And given the fact that people tend to make mistakes, it can be assumed that your signals will also turn out to be incorrect. In this case, the trader who paid you will receive a double loss, losing money to pay for your service and losing money due to an incorrectly opened order.

I have mixed review about such paid channels and I have a simple logic that you can pay to get educated and learn but not for just following the signals provided by others, because you cannot hold anyone responsible if you lose the amount and I have been part of such groups and there was this one Indian telegram group from which I got really good signals and it was like 70% win rate for futures but if you lose one trade in future with the stop loss shared by the channel you lose more than half of your portfolio.

I would say never pay upfront and if a group is genuine they may have free trail for a week or so. I don't think anyone can predict accurately and also the stuff you are promoting here is bit different as it gives us freedom to experiment and see who provides better signals as there are multiple options to choose from but still I would personally not prefer any paid group. Most of them are scams but some are good.

Guys,
I think you got Us wrong, let me try to explain,

We provide access to over 40 groups,
many of which are verified on whop.com. Simply visit website, click on the Trading section, and select Verified Whop Traders.

For instance, WWG at https://whop.com/marketplace/wealthgroup/ has an original monthly price of $225,
or check out Haven Group at https://whop.com/marketplace/thehaven/ for an original price of $250 per month.

Our fee offers access to 40+ paid groups for one affordable price $170,
This allows you to explore and understand what you can find or see "behind closed doors."

It helps you assess whether it benefits you, if you need it, and if it aligns with your trading style.

 This way, you can avoid paying individual fees for each group to determine its suitability for your trading needs.

This depends on individuals to buy but normally as a trader who someone who trying to sell off their strategy it shouldn't be a thing to just come post without having to master them probably has been working fine on him, and again if trader doesn't gets used to his trading guide he could ends up losing. That is why as trading or investors we do need to developed the best strategies that works fine for us because using someone else might lead us to some loses.

Not entirely true, while more information may seem to always be better, this is not really the case, why? Because the more sources you add the more contradictory information you will find, this is like the trader that tries to trade by having 20+ indicators on their chart, at some point the chart becomes unreadable with a bunch of signals contradicting each other and this is the same, at some point we need to limit ourselves to the amount of information sources we listen, otherwise when the time comes to make a trade we will not be sure about what to do.

I still don't understand if there are effective ways for you to trade and you've got signals that make you money. Why not get along with it for the longest time until they don't work anymore?

With that, you're going to enjoy the labor of your signals as you're saying they're premium and effective and yet you come to sell that to every stranger on the internet.

That's true and we might see more of them soon.

i can't remember whoever said this in the forum but i'm sure someone in here said it before. and it goes something like "every time a bull market starts, many users suddenly become a genius in trading".

will the signal be explained to the subscribers as to why the price will be going up and why it's going down?
and i guess when you join in the group you will also need to have a paid subscription to tradingview to have more indicators for your chart.