Topic: Why Herbalists Live Longer than Christains - page 2. (Read 356 times)

I don't have to read everything in the content because I believe only the topic has done justice to the content... And I will boldly tell you that has not happened in any where in the world. God has already perfected the longevity of a man on the planet earth so there is no need for you to compare  Christians with other religions and you can see that from the book of Psalms 90:10
therefore any christian who lives beyond that age is from nthe grace of God. And Christians are living longer and more than any other persons in the world.

Only someone who has zero IQ will have such ideology because we need food and water to survive which we only need to find and it won't be sent from the above by so called water. Having religious beliefs is okay which can help and Individual to have make peace with something that they don't have any control over but these kind of extreme beliefs is just stupidity.

From my own point of view it doesn't matter if you are a traditionalist or a Christian what matters is how you take proper care of your health, and the food that you eat. Another thing that I observed is that old age is also from the blood line of a certain family. My mom is a typical example.

My grandmother died at the age of 99yrs, which shows that she lived long, and my great grandmother died at 102yrs. I witnessed their death. My mom first born is a female and she is 75yrs now still very strong and agile, while my mom is 70yrs also strong and agile, and I don't think that they will die soon. What I mean is that sometimes our living long can be inherited.

From my dad side, they hardly live long in their family, and as I am talking to you my dad is already late. He died at the age of 56yrs, long time ago. His family don't live long, and I came to realize that sometimes sickness and diseases can shorten our life spam. So it is not about being Christian or traditionalist. I have only come to conclusion based on my observations that the good people die early than the evil ones. This is because God is giving the evil people enough time for them to repent because it is not his will to see his people perish.

In fact I think they are associated with diet to survive longer. If you are healthy taking care of yourself becomes the key to a person's survival. Here the believers of the traditional institution the scholar and the herbalist christine have no reason for them. Health prevails by eating unadulterated natural food also christine's faith in God is worthy.

One of the things killing Christians is that they believe they don't need to do somethings, it will be done by God for them. The truth is that it is not everything we need to wait for God to come help us. We are human which we have power to take care of ourselves. Most Christians believe they are not supposed to take some kinds of food and drugs, God will send strength and good health from above for them to live long life.

Your already in my mind many if his words is on speculation not properly verified, allot happened to human in general,human die in various means and also live longer in various means is not tide down religion or believes, I grown in a community where tradition is practice both in good way of treatment to sick person and so on but nothing show that one believe is the course of not living longer. I witness tradditionalist who died at younger age, good health and longest living is tide to individual not believe. There are many sickness and virus today some course by human effects on development these after every set of believe.


Actually there is a great point about the food we eat this day, with full of addictive but regards to the believe I totally disagree with it. Weather Christian, traditionalist or other religions believe that naturally food is good to health. Allot of things is associated with the issue of many not living a prolonged life and this is not only on the part of the Christian carry out your research very well. Back in those days when technology have not grown to this length every body leave according to expectations, but today many things are after human health, some are geographical issue where toxics gasses are flare and most of the radiation that are not good to health example sickness like cancer is not only been suffer by Christian but all religion, I believe too well that self protection of health by food clothing, cream,drugs etc is an individual issue that is not tide to believe.

I want to appreciate you for taking your time to research your topic and you provided some links to proof your points, but I'd have to say that your research is not accurate, because you tried to stereotype christians that they don't live long because the bible tells them not to discriminate what they eat, that is not true. Read your Bible well and understand why God, said that they should not discriminate and can eat everything that he has created for us as food, the reason was because the Jews, felt that they were better better than others because they don't eat certain food. So a Christian is not obligated to eat everything they see, they can choose to be vegetarians and still please God.

Jesus' lived for 33 years on earth, not forty year, and it has nothing to do with the years of other christians, I've seen many christians who lived to very old age, and many are very old and strong today. So the issue of abusing what we eat by consuming anything eatable without considering the effects on our health has nothing to do with Christianity, it's personal choices.

Do you have any proof that traditionalists don't consume anything other than herbs and vegetables in this age? Anybody can choose a healthy lifestyle, it doesn't matter your religion.

Well I think I don't really understand your topic,in your topic you Said harbalists and in your writing you said traditionalists, well in my own point of view,i think this is totally different from each other.but maybe you mean to say traditionalists and I will like to comment on this topic traditionalists,: traditionalists we are all traditionalists before Christianity came into existence, so l me tell you,with my little knowledge about traditionalists these are people who practiced holiness people, who are truthful, traditionalists do not lie or deceive people, they do not cheat or bribe they are straightforward people and they keep they holy days holy abide with their rules and regulations, and I think that's why they live longer than a Christianity..

In the Christianity: white man brought Christianity to us,we were not born and brought up with this ideology,we initiate it and after that we are not keeping the rules and regulations,i mean the commandments of God we do not have fear of God in our life, because God is A merciful God,in our society today look at the rate of Christianity,the churches everywhere, Man of God everywhere and women of God everywhere still alot are happening,and if look The sins that Christian are committing today you begin to wonder what kind of Christianity is this,i know that they're good ones but they are just few,a ritualist will go to church and he will be given the front seat sit down and the church will recommend him or her as highest donor in the house of God meanwhile his or her source of income is not from the right place..so that is why it's like Christianity do not live long because many are pretending to be a christian meanwhile they are evil dowers....

Traditionalists go for natural foods, thinking it's better for them, while some Christians focus more on morals than what's on their plate. These lifestyle differences might explain why traditionalists often live longer and it's all about the choices they make every day

Why Herbalists Live Longer than Christians


The answer is quite straight forward. Look at the temptation of Jesus in Matthew.

After Jesus's baptism...
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Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be  tempted by the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. The tempter came to him and said, “If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.”

Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”
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So, people live by every word of God. God spoke the whole universe into existence. So, the words that come from the mouth of God are the physics of the universe. This means that whoever uses the physics of the universe better, will live better and longer. A stupid Christian can easily die faster than a smart unbeliever.

Jesus was led by the Spirit into the fast in the wilderness. Even He did not step outside the words of His Father.

Continue reading the temptation story to its end...
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Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
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Did the angels feed Jesus? The idea is that they took care of His needs. So, Jesus received nourishment from them somehow. That means the angels brought food to Jesus... wherever they got it from. It also means that the words that proceed out of the mouth of God are far greater and extensive than we imagine. We are just scratching the surface of understanding the physics of the universe.

Now, go to Matthew 17:20.
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He replied, "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
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This shows that having faith in God opens any doors to everything.

Matthew 7:7 and following shows that Jesus invites us to have anything we want by having faith in Him. He did the work in His temptation, and won it all for us.
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“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.

“Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
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There is no limit to what anybody can receive. Jesus opened it all to us. But we might have to learn a lot of the physics of the universe if we want to do it without faith in Jesus-God.

There are many reasons why someone can live longer than the other. This topic isn't just all about whether you're a Christian, an Herbalists or some other member of other religions. It's about how we live on a society and how we take care of ourselves. Honestly, the foods that we have right now have more additives and preservatives and it's totally different from the past years where many are living on a natural food eating habit.

That affects the lifespan of most people and if you're into foods like processed meats and you're living a fast life and when I say fast life, it's like that you have no time to cook food and exercise then your choice is fast foods and you'll just go out and work and go home to eat and sleep. There's no life balance with that and that affects someone's longevity so whether the debate is about herbalists, Christians or anyone who's just normally living. Things that we do and in take affects our health and lifespan. And as we grow older, this is the time we realize the quote "Health is wealth".

You typed ‘christains’ multiple times across your post I tried to research if it meant something else but you meant christians, didn’t you?

Well anyway we all have different religions and different beliefs I personally do not think your religion or whoever you worship directly affects your lifespan or course of life but nevertheless we have to respect those people that have different beliefs than we do

Your argument is flawed because you are generalizing traditionalists and christians too much not all christians live the way you just described and not all traditionalists are healthier and more successful than christians

At the end of the day, what is most important is for us to live the way we want and respect others and their choice to live

Most of the things you said may be agreed by some people and disagreed by others. But apart from the reasons you gave that tend to support that Christians die earlier than traditionalist but I don't really accept that myself because I know of some traditionalist who have died younger too. To the morals of healthy living, Christians have changed, they have been reoriented on staying healthy. They go for check-up and are told what they need to keep staying healthy.

Why traditionalists live longer in age than Christains is an argument that has bothered minds however, christainity over time has tamed the curiosity of Christains with some bible citations, such as God takes the righteous early to avoid a sinful world. Then they make reference to Christ who lived 40 years. Apart from traditionalists living longer than Christains , other questions such as why none Christains are more successful in life than Christains with all the promises of riches, good life and prosperity.

Nevertheless, the reasons as to why Traditionalists lives longer than Christains can be explained in two ways.

1. The Social Traditional Practice
The social Traditional Practice as a principle of social conduct detest civilization and science, beleivers and scholars of the traditional institution believe that, science and it's inventions are dangers to the human social security and existence. For instance, the invention of harmful preservatives and chemicals as solutions to human satisfaction or medicines to human illnesses endangers human beings core existence.

Traditionalists believe that, it is what humans take into their stomach as parts of scientific inventions that is eliminating our natural existence. In other words, Traditionalists prefer natural and unprocessed food products and consumables that lacks artificial chemical compounds.
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Traditionalists prefers natural means of consumption, generally, they strongly holds unto the believe that , living a good live is in its natural resources so, they intend to preserve nature and it's practices.

2. Christain Principles of social living.
Their focus is more on moral grounds rather than healthy living, in fact Christains believe what man consume cannot defile him or endanger their health without poisoning. https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bibleref.com/Matthew/15/Matthew-15-11.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi_iaOPnoyEAxXcaEEAHdjcDHgQFnoECAUQAw&usg=AOvVaw0_55ob9Dq4OFom6A6ks2jT. Christains also think, the only thing that can kill a man is based on what they say with their mouth https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.biblestudytools.com/proverbs/18-21.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi_iaOPnoyEAxXcaEEAHdjcDHgQFnoECAEQDQ&usg=AOvVaw2JV8L5XQUvgUGtkMyvJMX0 . These are some of the reasons why Christains don't care about the health issues related to what they consume. Although Christains in the health profession are aware of these challenges but, they don't believe in the effectiveness of the traditional herbs , even at that, they have not totally abandoned some of the chemical foods and foods with preservatives. This is majorly the cause of most untimely deaths caused by sickness.

Unavoidably, processed foods and foods with harmful preservatives and chemicals have dominated society dues to scientific inventions of preservatives , ingredients for foods made with chemicals, the fast rise of fast foods and eateries. This has made it difficult to escape these death traps.

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