Why I haven't merited some 0 merit members

Direwolve735

full member

Activity: 448

Merit: 232

Quote from: mgaturon on November 20, 2018, 05:01:50 AM

If you give me a merit you will change my life forever

Your life will change when you start making efforts to make contributions to the forum, not when you receive merit. Be interested in events in the crypto sphere, study the market, learn something new and share information with others. It`s these actions that will lead to a change in your life, as you replenish the treasury of your knowledge and begin to help others. Merit is more likely the reaction of other participants to your investment and contributory actions, it`s not a "life changer" by itself.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: yodomaster on November 21, 2018, 02:42:03 AM

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You will normally find this sort of information on the Meta board. The thread you are looking for is the following: Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements. In terms of ranking therefore, it affects you in terms of needing to obtain at least 1 Merit alongside >= 30 activity) to become a Jr. Member.

In addition, as you can see on the referenced link, you cannot have a signature nor a personal message until you do so (unless you decide to acquire a copper membership).

yodomaster

newbie

Activity: 50

Merit: 0

May I know about the updated ranking requirement in this forum?

albertorm2

newbie

Activity: 51

Merit: 0

Old system was unfair... To be honest I did some shitposting in order to rank up... But I noticed now you need merit. While I find this annoying, It's the best way to prevent spam. It is also hard for newbies since they are not into crypto and don't really understand what to do.

I thank your work because having 0 merit is very annoying, but I think you should continue your regular posting instead of seeking for us. Actually It's our job to improve ourselves. This way eventually anyone will get merit. Anyone who truly loves this forum and crypto will eventually get merit from someone.

And by the way It would be so kind if you gave me 1 merit, but I don't know if I deserve It Tongue

Velkro

legendary

Activity: 2296

Merit: 1014

Quote from: Jet Cash on November 11, 2018, 01:53:43 PM

I decided that I would look for some members with 0 merits, and see if I can find a post that deserved merit to get them started.

Lots of work you did. I actually give merits when im browsing forum and discussing.
If i see some merit worthy post, that is helpful to others but not trying to pretend its useful but actually it is, then its worth merit.

LTU_btc

legendary

Activity: 3234

Merit: 1375

Slava Ukraini!

Quote from: Fenya96 on November 20, 2018, 02:36:39 PM

What do you consider to be bad quoting habit? I am always quoting parts that I try to reply to. I think that I would have failed in your test on many levels, but on the other hand I feel that I improved a lot since I joined the forum. My mistakes that I know of are my bad english and that my posting history is full of bounties (although I am going through my posts once or twice a month to delete the expired ones).

Jet Cash talking about full quotes when user don't remove irrelevant parts of quote, images and other content. It's also not advised to quote OP.
I think it's ok what you are doing. For example now you didn't quoted full original post, but only part of it that you're replying to.

Fenya96

member

Activity: 264

Merit: 10

Quote from: Jet Cash on November 11, 2018, 01:53:43 PM

Of course I skipped any misuse of quoting or formatting as well.

What do you consider to be bad quoting habit? I am always quoting parts that I try to reply to. I think that I would have failed in your test on many levels, but on the other hand I feel that I improved a lot since I joined the forum. My mistakes that I know of are my bad english and that my posting history is full of bounties (although I am going through my posts once or twice a month to delete the expired ones).

Crypto4091

newbie

Activity: 8

Merit: 0

As it is really hard to get first merit from jet cash. Although It is not impossible for a good poster. I have seen here in form that some of our senior merited without any research on post history of the receiver. They merited for that particular post and judge the receiver from that post only which is not good for the forum. Because now the first merit becomes the most important one. After the introduction of demerit system every spammer wants the only first merit at any cost. For that they make some good posts for time being. So never ever transfer merit without a proper look at the previous history.

virendarnagpal

member

Activity: 672

Merit: 12

Quote from: bosta20 on November 12, 2018, 02:48:32 PM

Nice move..

Friend; if you want to earn merit you try to add some comments. First you read the different topics discussed. After gaining some knowledge you will be able to answer to the problems or questions. If you continuously try to add something better there are chances anytime you gaining.
Just writing this type of words may not be advantageous.

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: mgaturon on November 20, 2018, 05:01:50 AM

If you give me a merit you will change my life forever

I’ve been awarded a few merits and have not noticed any change …. Ok, I understand that some see the forum as a place of work, expecting bounties to boost their wealth, especially in countries of dire economies … but … this is a forum whose core intent is to build-up on ideas and developments that are crypto-related (originally BTC centered). Additionally, some go into trading, and there is a wide span of services where one can make a pretty penny.

Bounties run for ICOs have the perverse effect of being considered an easy non-skilled job for some(/many), and that has lateral effects on the forum’s content, namely in the shape of increased spam. That is why the Merit System was installed in the first place, and by definition, you should post something meritable to receive merit.

If you really believe that merit is a life changer, then change you focus on how to get it in the first place and make the necessary efforts to create decent enough content to postulate to being merited.

Banemu

jr. member

Activity: 48

Merit: 6

Quote from: Jet Cash on November 13, 2018, 10:02:48 AM

One had bumped a 2015 thread with the single word "bump".

Could have been worse, like a repeated comment--this is something many indulge in as to hide the fact they are trying to bump a post.

Back to your post, this is an innovative way to help correct a lot of people from things they are doing wrong even if it doesn't entirely break any rule/ Posting your observations as you try to find value-filled posts or comments.

mgaturon

newbie

Activity: 14

Merit: 0

If you give me a merit you will change my life forever

Ying

newbie

Activity: 37

Merit: 0

Quote from: Direwolve735 on November 12, 2018, 01:38:00 PM

In existing conditions and with the currently approved rules, 1 Merit opens up great opportunities that can be used "for evil" (spam and shitposting for the bounty awards). That is why it`s necessary to think carefully before taking responsibility for the fact that it was you who gave the newbie a “ticket to life”. If you cannot explain and argue your decision for one reason or another, or if you doubt the expediency of awarding such a user with merit, it`s better to abstain. Otherwise, such a newbie may not contribute to the forum, but on the contrary, break the rules and write poor-quality posts for bounty campaigns.

The ones who just want use an account for evil can pay for Copper Membership instead of waiting g for a miracle... so this is some kind of double-egded sword.

flametoken

copper member

Activity: 61

Merit: 2

Congratulations for doing this. I know it's hard work to comb through a ton of posts that appear to be made by bots to find the actual humans who try to bring value to a topic instead of trying to game the activity score in order to rank up. What I find really interesting around here is how people can carry on conversations between themselves while spammers keep posting one liners between their replies. But in order to achieve this they make extensive use of the quote mechanism, because otherwise you couldn't follow their discussion. So I think your point about mis-quoting is correct, but you should take into consideration the fact that sometimes, you can use quotes extensively but for a good reason.

I think there is a need for a punishment mechanism other than the ban, to weed out spammers and bots. People who really try to contribute to the discussion around here get lost in a sea of irrelevant and useless posts. Maybe a feature similar to reddit, where users can spend their own merit to downgrade another user's posts because of spam or irrelevant gibberish would be interesting. What's your take on this?

nakamura12

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 669

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Quote from: Chantella on November 19, 2018, 03:18:59 AM

What exactly will this give to me when someone gives a merit to me?

The merit that is given to you is because of what you did that contribute to the forum. Example is when you help other forum users by posting thread that is helpful to the forum and to forum members. The merit is also needed for ranking up your account from newbie jr. member. Check the link given by DdmrDdmr above for more information and also this thread by the theymos Merit & new rank requirements.

Chantella

jr. member

Activity: 54

Merit: 1

What exactly will this give to me when someone gives a merit to me?

Direwolve735

full member

Activity: 448

Merit: 232

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on November 18, 2018, 01:14:25 PM

... look around at merited posts to get an idea of what it takes, and try to see extract common factors. I find these to be: time and effort.

I believe that these two factors are extremely important, but in my opinion, they aren`t enough. They must be supported by two more indicators - perseverance and self-confidence. And they correlate with the factors that you mentioned. Perseverance is insistence and determination in achieving the goal. This principle can be expressed as "Never give up" (correlation with the time factor. However, time by itself isn`t enough, because without a persistent approach, you might give up in a certain amount of time). It`s perseverance that helps achieve great results. Small but persistent steps open up new wide horizons. Another key factor is confidence in yourself, in your actions, faith in your own strength and in personal competence. Believing in yourself with time, efforts, and perseverance will help you succeed in any endeavor.

Theb

hero member

Activity: 1680

Merit: 655

Will you automatically skip newbie members that have an activity score of 120+? This will indicate that the member had been possibly a Jr. Member before that got demoted back to newbie rank which means that they haven't received any merits on 4+ months since they joined the forum. Or will you still look into their post and post history to see if they improved their post quality in general?

DdmrDdmr

legendary

Activity: 2338

Merit: 10802

There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

Quote from: Dark.Soul on November 18, 2018, 04:15:47 AM

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Nobody has returned to 0 as you state. Jr. Members that had not earned a single merit were demoted back to Newbie rank, but preserve the post count and Activity rate. There are good reasons behind this decision, and one needs to understand that spam levels on the forum were very high, due to the forum being considered by many solely as a money making machine and not a forum to exchange ideas (see Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements).

Honestly, earning a single merit is no big deal. Likely the first one will be more difficult than others to come (it took me almost two months before I received my first merit). So far, as of last Friday, 24.481 people have earned at least 1 merit on this forum. Reaching higher ranks is another story, since the merit requirements are high, but reaching Jr. Level should not be a challenge really.

Now simple one-liner’s won’t really postulate to being merited in general, so look around at merited posts to get an idea of what it takes, and try to see extract common factors. I find these to be: time and effort. That simple, and yet so ignored by many posts that ramp against the Merit System being difficult to engage even at a basic 1 merit level.

Dark.Soul

jr. member

Activity: 33

Merit: 1

Actually, it's very interesting but how do you think the members are active in the forum and when management updates the new rules they return to 0 and it's hard to increase rankings and they do not have Any other choices?

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