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July 19, 2014, 01:13:34 PM
#36
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins? There are like tons of new features even if you leave out anon that will increase BTC's use and value. So why not include them in Bitcoin Core? BTC is trailing behind others in terms of features, the only (HUGE) advantage is thats its the first accepted by a huge number of merchants.

As God once said "If it ain't broke dun't fix it!"

Wink
I don't think God ever said anything like this.

The principle is true. Most alts really do not have any useful features that bitcoin should have. The features that alts have really do not add any actual value and really just make the coins less secure
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Now that's a can do attitude!
July 19, 2014, 01:07:35 PM
#35
legendary
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amarha
July 19, 2014, 12:46:15 PM
#34
Change being difficult and rare is exactly one of the reasons it is a trusted and stable currency. Updates should be rare and only for crucial issues. Alt coins and other projects are available that have the features people want.

I agree. I see Bitcoin being the cornerstone of a rich crypto landscape. It's not going to be able to fulfil the demands of the wider market itself, but other technologies will emerage that can.
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 12:33:37 PM
#33
Change being difficult and rare is exactly one of the reasons it is a trusted and stable currency. Updates should be rare and only for crucial issues. Alt coins and other projects are available that have the features people want.
legendary
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amarha
July 19, 2014, 10:50:28 AM
#32
I see bitcoin as the "backbone" of cryptocurrencies, its actually a requirement in the world of virtual currency!

There needs to be one where its not being hacked around with new features and risk!  just like a network backbone people need to know its stable and that change is rare.

This way bitcoin can back other currencies... if there is an alt currency that has a feature enough people want then naturally people will give up some bitcoin to get hold of the other alt currency... and eventually some merchants will accept it because so many people use it.

I think in the future bitcoin is and will be the "gold" of crypto currency.... the only shame for bitcoin is its a really boring life being gold  Grin

I could definitely see that being the case. Bitcoin being the stable standard while other more agile currencies can scoop up other markets. It's unlikely Bitcoin is going anywhere, but it's also unlikely that Bitcoin is going to be pushing any technological boundaries at all anytime soon, if ever.
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July 19, 2014, 10:48:36 AM
#31
Adding charts/pricing to the client should be simple for someone familiar with c++  or what ever language your fav client is in, right ?
I am sure if you put a bounty some one would modify the existing client to do that for you.. but then you'd have to do the same upate each time the client gets updated by the devs.

Personally I am more than happy to load up btc-e or for the 2 seconds it takes to check pricing.
Looking at charts is also something I do/need to do very rarely.
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July 19, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
#30
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins?
Because the only reason that bitcoin is so expensive is a raw of updates wich are not similar to altcoins. And that is the key of difference in prices.
sr. member
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July 19, 2014, 08:06:35 AM
#29
I see bitcoin as the "backbone" of cryptocurrencies, its actually a requirement in the world of virtual currency!

There needs to be one where its not being hacked around with new features and risk!  just like a network backbone people need to know its stable and that change is rare.

This way bitcoin can back other currencies... if there is an alt currency that has a feature enough people want then naturally people will give up some bitcoin to get hold of the other alt currency... and eventually some merchants will accept it because so many people use it.

I think in the future bitcoin is and will be the "gold" of crypto currency.... the only shame for bitcoin is its a really boring life being gold  Grin
legendary
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Keep it dense, yeah?
July 19, 2014, 07:51:51 AM
#28
Adding 'features' to anything takes though and consideration. It is likely that the developers are working towards a roadmap of sorts, with a vision of what needs to be done in the coming months.

Sure some of the alt coins have neat features, features which could possibly increase Bitcoin's appeal further, but it's simply not a case of rushing in a feature addition without going through the necessary steps.
legendary
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July 19, 2014, 07:06:26 AM
#27
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins? There are like tons of new features even if you leave out anon that will increase BTC's use and value. So why not include them in Bitcoin Core? BTC is trailing behind others in terms of features, the only (HUGE) advantage is thats its the first accepted by a huge number of merchants.

I don't see a pull request from you for any of the features mentioned.
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July 19, 2014, 06:18:13 AM
#26
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins? There are like tons of new features even if you leave out anon that will increase BTC's use and value. So why not include them in Bitcoin Core? BTC is trailing behind others in terms of features, the only (HUGE) advantage is thats its the first accepted by a huge number of merchants.

Which coin and have what new feuture mind explain ?
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In Satoshi I Trust
July 19, 2014, 06:17:01 AM
#25
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins? There are like tons of new features even if you leave out anon that will increase BTC's use and value. So why not include them in Bitcoin Core? BTC is trailing behind others in terms of features, the only (HUGE) advantage is thats its the first accepted by a huge number of merchants.

BTC will never adapt something that makes it even more anonymous or pseudonymous. other coins / systems have to do this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3878992

i guess we are already at a stage where we wont see major changes anymore. hopefully some mining changes but everything else will be for scalability.

we are all sitting in a 8 billion dollar plane, so you cant do something stupid  Wink
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amarha
July 19, 2014, 06:03:21 AM
#24


5. POS!!!! are you kidding me. thats the lame brainchild of th rich, basically those that already own the large hoard of coins get richer. so satoshi gets 8% of each block, coinbase gets 6%, mark karpeles gets 6%, bitstamp gets 6% (all rough figures) all for doing jack shit and none of which helps secure bitcoin by having an ever increasing difficult encryption to crack.. POS is weak security and for the greedy pre-miners to profit from before the dump and run.. havnt you learnt that yet


The block can give no reward other than transaction fees. I think NXT is like this already. People need to secure the network, why not give them transaction fees?

POS does generate new coins.. the distribution is spread to who has most coin.. AKA stake. so someone with the slowest miner possible, but has 600k coins hoarded would get the most reward.. hense if bitcoin became POS. the exchanges that hoarded coins, and those that are hiding hoards of stolen coins, will get all the fresh coins, for little to no work.. POS is the profit making schme for the preminers. once they sell coins the coin soon dies.. POS is not about security at all

PoS doesn't necessarily generate new coins. Some might as incentive for people run the network. But if transaction fees are sufficient incentive then you don't need to reward blocks. NXT is the main PoS 2.0 coin and they don't have any reward for blocks other than the transaction fees. There are massive whales who own millions of NXT who don't even stake their coins because I guess they don't feel that the reward is enough incentive. But the network has been secure thus far.
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 01:41:04 PM
#23


5. POS!!!! are you kidding me. thats the lame brainchild of th rich, basically those that already own the large hoard of coins get richer. so satoshi gets 8% of each block, coinbase gets 6%, mark karpeles gets 6%, bitstamp gets 6% (all rough figures) all for doing jack shit and none of which helps secure bitcoin by having an ever increasing difficult encryption to crack.. POS is weak security and for the greedy pre-miners to profit from before the dump and run.. havnt you learnt that yet


The block can give no reward other than transaction fees. I think NXT is like this already. People need to secure the network, why not give them transaction fees?

POS does generate new coins.. the distribution is spread to who has most coin.. AKA stake. so someone with the slowest miner possible, but has 600k coins hoarded would get the most reward.. hense if bitcoin became POS. the exchanges that hoarded coins, and those that are hiding hoards of stolen coins, will get all the fresh coins, for little to no work.. POS is the profit making schme for the preminers. once they sell coins the coin soon dies.. POS is not about security at all
legendary
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amarha
July 18, 2014, 01:34:09 PM
#22


5. POS!!!! are you kidding me. thats the lame brainchild of th rich, basically those that already own the large hoard of coins get richer. so satoshi gets 8% of each block, coinbase gets 6%, mark karpeles gets 6%, bitstamp gets 6% (all rough figures) all for doing jack shit and none of which helps secure bitcoin by having an ever increasing difficult encryption to crack.. POS is weak security and for the greedy pre-miners to profit from before the dump and run.. havnt you learnt that yet


The block can give no reward other than transaction fees. I think NXT is like this already. People need to secure the network, why not give them transaction fees?
hero member
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July 18, 2014, 12:59:39 PM
#21
Introducing new features may create new bugs or instability. I prefer to have a reliable bug free bitcoin platform rather than optional features. I think devs are more concerned with solving the blockchain size problem at the moment.
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 12:47:47 PM
#20

1. Voting System
2. Faster Blocks
3. Maybe an optional anon feature (Don't know how many will like this though)
4. Price, difficulty charts, etc. built into the client
5. POS maybe?
6. Something NEW! Why can't Bitcoin innovate further?


PS: To be honest, I realized there are not MANY features missing from BTC Wink

1. already exists.. simply make a number of addresses post them and let people send dust to th addresses to choose the vote eg
vote for favourite fruit
oranges - 1Mad3Up4ddre55D0Not4ctua11y5endt0
apples - 14n0th3rMadeUpAddre5sD0ntSendTo
pears ... you get the idea

2. and in a year people will complain that 2 minutes is not fast enough.. helloo!!!! its not 3-5 business days, now is it

3. bitcoin is already pseudonomynous, until people are silly enough to make their addresses public
Bitcoin address: 18WqmLH66SG8AqzREDWEZ7pzrsCm297FX1

4. bitcoin is a payment system but nothing stopping you making your own GUi, i done it with VB.net without any issues even blockchain.info done it and made it publicly accessible rather than a program you have to download

5. POS!!!! are you kidding me. thats the lame brainchild of th rich, basically those that already own the large hoard of coins get richer. so satoshi gets 8% of each block, coinbase gets 6%, mark karpeles gets 6%, bitstamp gets 6% (all rough figures) all for doing jack shit and none of which helps secure bitcoin by having an ever increasing difficult encryption to crack.. POS is weak security and for the greedy pre-miners to profit from before the dump and run.. havnt you learnt that yet

6. bitcoin can innovate, also people can innovate themselves.. just look at the great stuff blockchain.info managed to do with the data
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 12:36:46 PM
#19
what people dont know is that if they know VB, PHP, JAVA. they can easily make their own GUI that interacts with bitcoinD.exe.... thus keeping the protocol but having their own fancy little GUI that has a different way of handling addressbooks or making it easier to form multisends, etc.

so guys it does not require the bitcoincore-dev's to make it pretty or user friendly. thats a job for you to do, or to offer bounties to anyone to make if you lack the skills of making GUI's
legendary
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July 18, 2014, 12:36:13 PM
#18
kashish948 you say better features... but which features?

i have only seen you mention 1. syncing.

you do realise that the crap coins seem faster to sync, not because the alt has better features but because of these 2 reasons
1. crap coin(altcoins) blocks are smaller because they are used less, with less transactions per block
2. crap coin(altcoins) dont have 5 years of large data to send.

analogy
if i write a novel, and you wrote a leaflet ofcourse its going to take longer for people to read a novel..  but atleast the novel tells a better story and people want that. not some crap that gets thrown away..

so, tell me what actual FEATURES do you want to see in bitcoin-core.. name me 5 FEATURES


1. Voting System
2. Faster Blocks
3. Maybe an optional anon feature (Don't know how many will like this though)
4. Price, difficulty charts, etc. built into the client
5. POS maybe?
6. Something NEW! Why can't Bitcoin innovate further?


PS: To be honest, I realized there are not MANY features missing from BTC Wink
legendary
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The revolution will be digital
July 18, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
#17
Why does bitcoin not include the new features from altcoins? There are like tons of new features even if you leave out anon that will increase BTC's use and value. So why not include them in Bitcoin Core? BTC is trailing behind others in terms of features, the only (HUGE) advantage is thats its the first accepted by a huge number of merchants.

Features are always debatable. What is good for u, may not be good for me. So any change in the client may not win consensus and hence highly difficult to push technically.
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