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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
April 08, 2016, 06:59:03 PM
#75
This is an old thread, and yes I have lost much hope for Bitcoin

Bye felicia  Cry
legendary
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April 08, 2016, 06:48:13 PM
#74
I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.

I look forward to it. Some discussion written like we Wasn't 5

Would you like some valid grammar/diction to go with your irony, sir? Grin
hero member
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April 08, 2016, 06:18:14 PM
#73
First post that I have made in weeks, and you say that I am advertising for BU everywhere?

Pretty much the only thing they say in this (BU) thread. I thought you had disproved that already?

ed. with great effort of research it would appear, to answer comments made on a whim.


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I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.

I look forward to it. Some discussion written like we Wasn't 5
hero member
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April 08, 2016, 03:29:31 PM
#72
Use whatever client you support the most yourself, just like tokeweed said. My personal favorite implementation now is Bitcoin Unlimited, however I also support Bitcoin Classic, since Bitcoin Unlimited is also compatible with the two megabyte increase proposal by Classic. Much has changed since I wrote the OP, it has obvously become somewhat outdated. Check out my more recent posts here on bitcointalk and especially on bitco.in. I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.
You've bumped a dead thread in order to promote BU? Seriously, stop advertising for your stuff everywhere.
First post that I have made in weeks, and you say that I am advertising for BU everywhere?

This is an old thread, and yes I have lost much hope for Bitcoin, it is not over yet though, still waiting to see how it all plays out. I will continue holding BTC, along with a multitude of alternative cryptocurrencies, so I am sufficiently hedged if Bitcoin chooses not to scale. It will simply be overtaken by alternative cryptocurrencies that can scale directly. The origanol vision of Satoshi will survive in the alternative cryptocurrencies regardless of what happens to Bitcoin.
legendary
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April 07, 2016, 07:40:54 PM
#71
thought about using it a while ago, but it seems that time has come. So whats up with the core devs? Beeing short over night i made a few coins so is it the right decision to transfer some to the XT client?

Heard about DDos attacks and censurship. Thats not the way we all wanted BTC to go. So if the Core Devs go this way i ll guess they had to go it alone  Grin

One question about the 3 possibole alternitves to keep my BTC (and thats what they are coz they are mine, no need to argue dear devs)...

Sud i use XT or classic or unlimited ?

Thx in advance for some good answers
Use whatever you want.  Looks like you already support XT anyway.  Run your node and campaign for others to do the same.

Good luck.
Use whatever client you support the most yourself, just like tokeweed said. My personal favorite implementation now is Bitcoin Unlimited, however I also support Bitcoin Classic, since Bitcoin Unlimited is also compatible with the two megabyte increase proposal by Classic. Much has changed since I wrote the OP, it has obvously become somewhat outdated. Check out my more recent posts here on bitcointalk and especially on bitco.in. I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.

Didn't you recently say on bitco.in that you had lost all hope for bitcoin? Maybe you should sell your coins and leave.
legendary
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Terminated.
April 07, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
#70
Use whatever client you support the most yourself, just like tokeweed said. My personal favorite implementation now is Bitcoin Unlimited, however I also support Bitcoin Classic, since Bitcoin Unlimited is also compatible with the two megabyte increase proposal by Classic. Much has changed since I wrote the OP, it has obvously become somewhat outdated. Check out my more recent posts here on bitcointalk and especially on bitco.in. I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.
You've bumped a dead thread in order to promote BU? Seriously, stop advertising for your stuff everywhere.
hero member
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April 07, 2016, 04:07:04 PM
#69
thought about using it a while ago, but it seems that time has come. So whats up with the core devs? Beeing short over night i made a few coins so is it the right decision to transfer some to the XT client?

Heard about DDos attacks and censurship. Thats not the way we all wanted BTC to go. So if the Core Devs go this way i ll guess they had to go it alone  Grin

One question about the 3 possibole alternitves to keep my BTC (and thats what they are coz they are mine, no need to argue dear devs)...

Sud i use XT or classic or unlimited ?

Thx in advance for some good answers
Use whatever you want.  Looks like you already support XT anyway.  Run your node and campaign for others to do the same.

Good luck.
Use whatever client you support the most yourself, just like tokeweed said. My personal favorite implementation now is Bitcoin Unlimited, however I also support Bitcoin Classic, since Bitcoin Unlimited is also compatible with the two megabyte increase proposal by Classic. Much has changed since I wrote the OP, it has obvously become somewhat outdated. Check out my more recent posts here on bitcointalk and especially on bitco.in. I will also be writing another article soon relating to the blocksize debate and its more recent manifestations.
TSE
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January 16, 2016, 02:01:16 AM
#68

Use whatever you want.  Looks like you already support XT anyway.  Run your node and campaign for others to do the same.

Good luck.

Said and done. Switch is easy no need to transfer anything just dl the XT client and ur done. Thx and good luck to u and everyone who still believes Wink

legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
January 16, 2016, 01:40:30 AM
#67
thought about using it a while ago, but it seems that time has come. So whats up with the core devs? Beeing short over night i made a few coins so is it the right decision to transfer some to the XT client?

Heard about DDos attacks and censurship. Thats not the way we all wanted BTC to go. So if the Core Devs go this way i ll guess they had to go it alone  Grin

One question about the 3 possibole alternitves to keep my BTC (and thats what they are coz they are mine, no need to argue dear devs)...

Sud i use XT or classic or unlimited ?

Thx in advance for some good answers

Use whatever you want.  Looks like you already support XT anyway.  Run your node and campaign for others to do the same.

Good luck.
TSE
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
January 16, 2016, 01:32:59 AM
#66
thought about using it a while ago, but it seems that time has come. So whats up with the core devs? Beeing short over night i made a few coins so is it the right decision to transfer some to the XT client?

Heard about DDos attacks and censurship. Thats not the way we all wanted BTC to go. So if the Core Devs go this way i ll guess they had to go it alone  Grin

One question about the 3 possibole alternitves to keep my BTC (and thats what they are coz they are mine, no need to argue dear devs)...

Sud i use XT or classic or unlimited ?

Thx in advance for some good answers
legendary
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January 16, 2016, 01:20:42 AM
#65
couldnt we just merge mine Bitcoin with something like Namecoin and then force namecoin to handle the smaller dust transactions?
hero member
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October 08, 2015, 08:26:42 AM
#64
well, it qualifies for that. Political realism has in fact denounced the BIP, however.
We will see what will happen when the blocks are consistently full, the tides might change. To be clear my position is that I would support a third alternative implementation that increases the blocksize especially if it represents a middle ground between these two extreme positions. I would even support Core again if they increased the blocksize, I have said this from the very beginning.
The only thing that will happen after the blocks fill up is a small increase in fees.
This is incorrect, how much of an increase in fees will happen depends on the level of adoption, if there is a huge spike in adoption then fees would become prohibitively expensive. I have already explained in the OP that transactions would also effectively be rendered unreliable. This would most likely conversely lead to decreased adoption and hurt the public perception of Bitcoin. This is the scenario that I would want to avoid by increasing the blocksize before a potential spike in adoption happens.
legendary
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October 08, 2015, 08:07:28 AM
#63
well, it qualifies for that. Political realism has in fact denounced the BIP, however.
We will see what will happen when the blocks are consistently full, the tides might change. To be clear my position is that I would support a third alternative implementation that increases the blocksize especially if it represents a middle ground between these two extreme positions. I would even support Core again if they increased the blocksize, I have said this from the very beginning.

The only thing that will happen after the blocks fill up is a small increase in fees.
hero member
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October 06, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
#62
well, it qualifies for that. Political realism has in fact denounced the BIP, however.
We will see what will happen when the blocks are consistently full, the tides might change. To be clear my position is that I would support a third alternative implementation that increases the blocksize especially if it represents a middle ground between these two extreme positions. I would even support Core again if they increased the blocksize, I have said this from the very beginning.
legendary
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October 06, 2015, 04:05:59 PM
#61
well, it qualifies for that. Political realism has in fact denounced the BIP, however.
hero member
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Bitcoin replaces central, not commercial, banks
October 06, 2015, 04:00:46 PM
#60
Sorry, I read the September ones as all being October for some reason (looked like you posted 12 posts from October and 1 from August). Oh well, I only wasted about 30 seconds looking, so things could be worse  Cheesy

There's still a bit of a balance problem, even in those posts, if you want to actually maintain that a compromise is what you want or what you're promoting. The content of those posts suggests otherwise, and lets be fair, you've written one or two more posts than that in the last 6 weeks.
I have said and I repeat that I will adopt a third alternative as soon as it is implemented. A third alternative has not been implemented yet, therefore my position is not contradictory.

I don't think you mean just any third alternative? Not meaning to split hairs, but it explicates my criticism of what I recall about your position, which was that you thought BIP101 was an acceptable option, for the reason that it was the only alternative proposed at all. 

"Political realism" he called it.
legendary
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Merit: 3080
October 06, 2015, 03:54:46 PM
#59
Sorry, I read the September ones as all being October for some reason (looked like you posted 12 posts from October and 1 from August). Oh well, I only wasted about 30 seconds looking, so things could be worse  Cheesy

There's still a bit of a balance problem, even in those posts, if you want to actually maintain that a compromise is what you want or what you're promoting. The content of those posts suggests otherwise, and lets be fair, you've written one or two more posts than that in the last 6 weeks.
I have said and I repeat that I will adopt a third alternative as soon as it is implemented. A third alternative has not been implemented yet, therefore my position is not contradictory.

I don't think you mean just any third alternative? Not meaning to split hairs, but it explicates my criticism of what I recall about your position, which was that you thought BIP101 was an acceptable option, for the reason that it was the only alternative proposed at all. 
hero member
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October 06, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
#58
Sorry, I read the September ones as all being October for some reason (looked like you posted 12 posts from October and 1 from August). Oh well, I only wasted about 30 seconds looking, so things could be worse  Cheesy

There's still a bit of a balance problem, even in those posts, if you want to actually maintain that a compromise is what you want or what you're promoting. The content of those posts suggests otherwise, and lets be fair, you've written one or two more posts than that in the last 6 weeks.
I have said and I repeat that I will adopt a third alternative as soon as it is implemented. A third alternative has not been implemented yet, therefore my position is not contradictory.
legendary
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Merit: 3080
October 06, 2015, 12:43:52 PM
#57
Sorry, I read the September ones as all being October for some reason (looked like you posted 12 posts from October and 1 from August). Oh well, I only wasted about 30 seconds looking, so things could be worse  Cheesy

There's still a bit of a balance problem, even in those posts, if you want to actually maintain that a compromise is what you want or what you're promoting. The content of those posts suggests otherwise, and lets be fair, you've written one or two more posts than that in the last 6 weeks.
hero member
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October 06, 2015, 12:10:35 PM
#56
I have always said that I would most likely support a third alternative implementation especially if it strikes a middle ground between these two extreme choices we have today.

No you haven't, but I don't have time to perform such unrewarding tasks as looking through your post history to prove it.

What you have indulged in is the same dishonest tactics as your fellow acolytes (straw man to open this exchange, stay classy), and the clear intent is to behave appallingly while feigning ignorance. You've constantly twisted logic, invented incoherent consequences, and just straight up saying things that are 100% contrary to observable, empirical facts. You literally just make it all up sometimes.
Yet you are the one presently using ad hominem against me. I did actually say this in the OP. Smiley
What, the OP that you wrote the day before yesterday? (did you actually expect me to read it  Roll Eyes)

More distortion only proves my point:

your claim: "I have always said..."

the reality: "I changed my position to suit my argument (again) a day or two ago"
The OP was written in August. Here are more examples of me saying that I would support a third alternative:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12223115
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12338718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12331928
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12329379
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12322269
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12286468
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12320746
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12279062
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12223373
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12608591
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12608591
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12506243

Some of these statements were even made during conversations I had with you. So please stop calling me dishonest unless you back it up with proof.

Well, I hate to have to argue with you, but there is a grand total of 1 post in amongst your submission that is not from either yesterday, or the day before that, so you're laying it on a little too thick.

However, I can concede that you did say you favoured a compromise, once, six weeks ago (in bold). Bearing in mind the sheer mass volume of pro-BIP101 bias you've been raining on the forum since then, is it any wonder that I forgot?  Smiley

And the reality is still vastly different from "I have always said...", exactly as I claimed.
October
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12608591
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12608591
September
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12338718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12331928
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12329379
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12322269
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12506243
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12506243
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12320746
August
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12223115
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12286468
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12279062
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12223373
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12188826
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12185816
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12223115
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