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Topic: Why I think we may get a BIG crash before $500 (and then rise *much* higher) - page 2. (Read 3360 times)

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I think you're right. There will probably be a correction to account for the massive recent rise, but it will not affect the price in the long run and we will be breaking records again shortly afterwards.
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The market shook off yesterday's 10% correction, and while watching it I seemed to me that neither are the buyers exhausted yet, nor are the large sellers successful in signalling each other that this is the big one, i.e. the collapse.

I think we go much higher and faster before a collapse. But I am buying more today regardless because I have faith that prices in 2014 will average well over $1,000.

I also feel that the market seems to be far more confident in Bitcoin and the brief correction indicates a boost in confidence perhaps to a greater extent than any bubble/rally could. People, I hope, are starting to realise that if they buy Bitcoin now, as long as they don't do anything stupid over the short term like panic sell those Bitcoins will quickly rise again and surpass the previous value, at least over the long term. I am not sure we should be comparing other crashes to the present as so many factors have changed, however if enough people don't factor those changes into their buy/sell strategy then I guess they become irrelevant.
legendary
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No crash. Not a real one, just corrections of different scales. The Gox thing can't happen again since we now have multiple exchanges, SR strengthened faith in the currency. It would take something new, and huge, to crash things at this point.
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Stephen Reed
The market shook off yesterday's 10% correction, and while watching it I seemed to me that neither are the buyers exhausted yet, nor are the large sellers successful in signalling each other that this is the big one, i.e. the collapse.

I think we go much higher and faster before a collapse. But I am buying more today regardless because I have faith that prices in 2014 will average well over $1,000.
legendary
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes
$553? Taking into account that the $32 and $266 bubble are 2 years apart, and the current bubble and $266 bubble only 0.5 years. So that would make (266/32*0.25)*266 = $553 (rounded up) Wink
Correct, sir, very sharp. I suggest you hold your coins until around $550 Smiley
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes

$553? Taking into account that the $32 and $266 bubble are 2 years apart, and the current bubble and $266 bubble only 0.5 years. So that would make (266/32*0.25)*266 = $553 (rounded up) Wink
+1
legendary
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i think it will go down to about 150
The other two crashes dropped down about 70%, so from 500 that would be 150, indeed. No idea of this (or any) logic applies here Smiley
legendary
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes

$553? Taking into account that the $32 and $266 bubble are 2 years apart, and the current bubble and $266 bubble only 0.5 years. So that would make (266/32*0.25)*266 = $553 (rounded up) Wink
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How low will the price go?

i think it will go down to about 150
legendary
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes

what ~498  Shocked
Well, actually 234+266 = exactly 500, but close enough Smiley

(no, seriously, this 'math support' is nonsense of course, but I'm serious about the psychological factors at play near $500 / ¥3000)
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes

what ~498  Shocked
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legendary
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Oh, one more thing. First crash was around $32. Second crash was $234 higher (around $266). So logically, the third crash will be... Roll Eyes
legendary
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Considering the novelty and nature of Bitcoin and the promises it holds for the future, versus human psychology and greed which currently controls the trading market, I expect two things:

1. At some point, we'll get a crash
2. In the long term, Bitcoin will rise far, far higher than current rates

When rates start rising extremely quickly, like they did back in 2011, in April, and like they're doing now, more and more people are getting nervous. Whether this makes 'sense' or not doesn't matter, psychology and greed is essentially what controls the price or causes a rise or fall.

Bitcoin rates have been rising extremely fast lately. For very good reasons: tons of Chinese stepping into Bitcoin, market acceptance growing every day, more and more media attention, etc.

However, I think one importent thing that saved us from another crash so far, is the fact that the market is now more diverse. It used to be mainly MtGox and the USD/BTC rate that mattered. Now there's also Bitstamp, to a lesser extent Btc-E, and especially the CNY/BTC trading on BTC China.

When getting close to round numbers like $350, $400, etc, we always see some resistance, or a steady 'sell wall'. What may have helped is for example while MtGox was struggling against a $350 wall, China just kept on ploughing between 2100 - 2200 CNY, and vice versa.

But now, possibly within a few days, 500 USD and 3000 CNY appear at the horizon simultaneously. These are both very strong psychological hurdles. People have made astronomical profits in very short time, and at least part of them will want to cash out or 'secure' part of their investment. Because both the USD and CNY markets are now running into a hurdle at the same time, this may have a big impact. Once panic starts with both currencies (USD and CNY) simultaneously, shit's gonna hit the fan.

Furthermore, there are now LOTS of newcomers in the market. People who barely understand or appreciate Bitcoin, but just look at the graphs and see this as some magic money making trading mechanism.

My prediction: when getting near 500 USD and 3000 CNY, people are gonna start taking profit, huge sell walls will appear at the major exchanges, panic will arise, mass sell offs, and rates are gonna crash similar to April and 2011.

The good news: of course this is only temporary, nothing withstands the enormous promises that Bitcoin holds for the future, and we may see $1000+ in 2014.
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