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Topic: Why I was perma-ban? Spam or plagiarism? Hell no! (Read 873 times)

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This could be the reason for your permanent ban.


You have copied the exact text from Wikipedia without including a source here.

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Why do we need kids? This planet is getting over populated already!

Most contemporary estimates for the carrying capacity of the Earth under existing conditions are between 4 billion and 16 billion. Depending on which estimate is used, human overpopulation may or may not have already occurred. Nevertheless, the rapid recent increase in human population is causing some concern.

David Attenborough described the level of human population on the planet as a multiplier of all other environmental problems In 2013, he described humanity as "a plague on the Earth" that needs to be controlled by limiting population growth.

“ Overpopulation in various countries has become a serious threat to the health of people and a grave obstacle to any attempt to organize peace on this planet. Albert Einstein – physicist 1879 – 1955 ”

For me, I got 2 dogs and I'm kinda OK with that for now! I'm just aiming at my billion dollar dream... What about you guys???



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Most contemporary estimates for the carrying capacity of the Earth under existing conditions are between 4 billion and 16 billion. Depending on which estimate is used, human overpopulation may or may not have already occurred. Nevertheless, the rapid recent increase in human population is causing some concern.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation

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David Attenborough described the level of human population on the planet as a multiplier of all other environmental problems.[20] In 2013, he described humanity as "a plague on the Earth" that needs to be controlled by limiting population growth

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_impact_on_the_environment
Wating for.this plagiarized post and so this is now a proof contradicting OP's claim.about not doing copy and pasting post. So now, it is bright as tge daylight that OP did plagiarized post.

Anyway, this is always I have thought in my mind that admin were really accurate in banning users. This is why O never saw a ban account being lifted after it was prove that the user is not plagiarizing post/s.
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If reasons for a ban are made obvious as in included in the ban message, it going save mods some time from further clarifications
What do you mean? It's a binary choice and an easy decision at that: if you are not spamming, then you were banned for plagiarism.
If you were banned for spamming, then it would be clearly shown in your posts -- the threshold for a ban for the reason of spam is ridiculously high.
If there is some gray area, then you either:
A) created a huge number of insubstantial posts = bad
B) plagiarized content for the purpose of increasing post count = bad

Pick your poison.
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If reasons for a ban are made obvious as in included in the ban message, it going save mods some time from further clarifications
legendary
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Last but not least it could be do with Veil forum advertising (posting about veil) shill campaign, although it's not as bad as other users. Kind of surprised this isn't the case after seeing the profile to be honest. PS - I don't mean signature campaign.
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At least I left BitcoinTalk a senior member with over 280 merits which you can never reach that for your entire life.

Lolz.  You've only earned 34 merit, you were airdropped 250.  Bitcoin_Arena was airdropped only 10 merit, and has earned nearly 3 x as many merit as you have. 


I moved on.

That's a good attitude to have.  Admin may take it easy on you, best of luck.
jr. member
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It was a mistake not something intentional. The only forum on Earth where junior members doesn't respect their seniors. At least I left BitcoinTalk a senior member with over 280 merits which you can never reach that for your entire life.

I have read threads on this forum where people have ranked from newbie to hero. They have moved from 0 merits to 500+ merits.
Reaching 280 merits would definitely not take a lifetime.

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I moved on. I'm finally free from all miseries of merits, post counts, hilarious, and theymos today, theymos tomorrow. As I said, I moved on Smiley
I understand you are frustrated. Moving on is a good thing but one must not let it change a person's character. Be good to others as you were.
I wish you become one of the zero to hero guys  Smiley
legendary
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When was the report? Any proof for the date?

Well the date of report is not important. Important in my opinion is that this post was made almost 2 years ago. I understand your frustration. As hilariousandco said You should msg to theymos. Put there your apologies and explain how you have changed since those 2 years and why such an issue won't happened again ... maybe suggest that you will review all your posts and delete all shady once.


Because, you committed a crime period. Crime never dies. I does not matter which year you get caught.

Actually it does matter. Even if you will kill a person after 30 years you can't be punished for that (at least in my country - Poland). 5 years is enough for low harmful crimes.
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When was the report? Any proof for the date?

Is it that an odd to use something that was made 2017 against me now? I know I made some mistakes way back but it's unfair to use that now after almost 2 years. why now? Isn't that a blackmail?

I've done so many great things on this forum over the years that should be enough to make it even, I don't believe what I did 2 years ago should be used to destroy my reputation now. I think someone very powerful is behind this.

I thought BitcoinTalk is a land of dreams, instead it's turning into something else.


I don't know the date. You'd have to ask an admin about that. Contact them and see if they'll change it to a sig ban instead which is sometimes given.
newbie
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When was the report? Any proof for the date?
The fact that you plagiarized has already been proved to you, so why do you need a date?
Date of the report does not matter now.

Is it that an odd to use something that was made 2017 against me now? I know I made some mistakes way back but it's unfair to use that now after almost 2 years. why now?
Because, you committed a crime period. Crime never dies. I does not matter which year you get caught.


It was a mistake not something intentional. The only forum on Earth where junior members doesn't respect their seniors. At least I left BitcoinTalk a senior member with over 280 merits which you can never reach that for your entire life.

I moved on. I'm finally free from all miseries of merits, post counts, hilarious, and theymos today, theymos tomorrow. As I said, I moved on Smiley
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When was the report? Any proof for the date?
The fact that you plagiarized has already been proved to you, so why do you need a date?
Date of the report does not matter now.

Is it that an odd to use something that was made 2017 against me now? I know I made some mistakes way back but it's unfair to use that now after almost 2 years. why now?
Because, you committed a crime period. Crime never dies. I does not matter which year you get caught.

Isn't that a blackmail?
Do you even know what blackmail is?

"Blackmail is an act of coercion using the threat of revealing or publicizing either substantially true or false, and often damaging, information about a person, to the public, family members, or associates unless certain demands are met. It may involve using threats of physical, mental or emotional harm, or of criminal prosecution, against the victim or someone close to the victim"
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmail
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So, what’s happening on 1 August 2017?

Even though Segwit allows for increased transaction throughput, not everyone is happy with its implementation. After BIP 91 was locked in, a group of developers, miners and users suddenly announced that an altcoin known as Bitcoin Cash (or BCC) will be created, a fork from the current Bitcoin branch and it will (among other things) not support Segwit.

At this time it is highly unlikely that Bitcoin Cash will have significant support from all the right stakeholders — miners, developers, platforms and users.

Most Bitcoin platforms, will not be supporting Bitcoin Cash. Customers who want access to Bitcoin Cash tokens will have to withdraw their Bitcoin from the platforms to a Bitcoin Cash-compatible platform before 1 August 2017. I can’t make any recommendations for any other platforms for now.

What do you think will happening next?

That's the thread that was reported and what you were probably banned for.

When was the report? Any proof for the date?

Is it that an odd to use something that was made 2017 against me now? I know I made some mistakes way back but it's unfair to use that now after almost 2 years. why now? Isn't that a blackmail?

I've done so many great things on this forum over the years that should be enough to make it even, I don't believe what I did 2 years ago should be used to destroy my reputation now. I think someone very powerful is behind this.

I thought BitcoinTalk is a land of dreams, instead it's turning into something else.
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How dare you question it? I'd rather have you hanged for that.
Why is that? I know the meta section is full of politics but I'm always trying to stay away from that because I'm not a politician, I'm more like a "realist" myself.


Obvious sarcasm on the poster's part but I guess you missed it.
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So, what’s happening on 1 August 2017?

Even though Segwit allows for increased transaction throughput, not everyone is happy with its implementation. After BIP 91 was locked in, a group of developers, miners and users suddenly announced that an altcoin known as Bitcoin Cash (or BCC) will be created, a fork from the current Bitcoin branch and it will (among other things) not support Segwit.

At this time it is highly unlikely that Bitcoin Cash will have significant support from all the right stakeholders — miners, developers, platforms and users.

Most Bitcoin platforms, will not be supporting Bitcoin Cash. Customers who want access to Bitcoin Cash tokens will have to withdraw their Bitcoin from the platforms to a Bitcoin Cash-compatible platform before 1 August 2017. I can’t make any recommendations for any other platforms for now.

What do you think will happening next?

That's the thread that was reported and what you were probably banned for.
legendary
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So, what are you suggesting now? Give up the account now or what? I don't think your post is helpful, man.

Perhaps, you are right. Now it's time to say goodbye.
You in any case have the right to try to return your account, I just wanted to show you how difficult it is to turn this situation to your advantage. You are not the only member of the forum who found himself in this situation, and I'm not sure anyone has succeeded to get back banned account. If you get your account back, dozens of banned users would ask same thing, and this is not something what the admins / mods wants.

I am sorry that my post was not helpful, this is not easy time for you. If you think that there is any chance to get account back I wish you luck with that.
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Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless.

You created your account in September 2016, and the post in question was made in April 2017, so you were here for over 6 months. Although it doesn't look like you posted until February 2017, so you were actively posting for at least two months when you made the post in question. I don't think that qualifies you for "newbie" status.

You do have some merit, which you could use to argue your cause.

It does appear you created your post from two sources, which arguably was a way to help conceal the plagiarism.

You can argue that your contributions are great enough so that you should receive a temp ban, and a multiyear signature ban after that. I don't know you well enough to forum an opinion one way or another that you should receive a temp ban.   
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I don't think I broke any forum rule in all my actions. I just got burned without any good proper reason. Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless. It's just a blackmail, if not how could you questioned me for what I did 2 years ago? BTW, I made countless contributions to the forum but you guys now turn a blind eye trying to bury me alive. If I was doing something wrong at least you should warn me, the parma-ban is just unfair. I'm not some kind of criminal for God's sake!

By the way, I have a question?
Is posting relevant articles from external sites with reference URLs against the forum rules? Yes or no?

The way I see it, someone is trying to bury me before my time. Let's be frank!


You are burned same as all others members that someone reported for plagiarism, regardless of whether it is your first or the last post on this forum. There is no warning for such a violation of the forum rules, and I believe this is so because it would be just an extra job for moderators / admins in a way they would need to send warnings and check who is broke rule for first time, and who is do that for second or third time.

As I say before, someone is checking users post history back a few years ago and report users, who are then punished according to the rules of the forum. I think the chances for the return of your account are very small, just look how much support this user is get from his community and there is no reaction to that.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-regulushr-and-discussion-on-topic-good-for-the-forum-as-a-whole-5097792
So, what are you suggesting now? Give up the account now or what? I don't think your post is helpful, man.

Perhaps, you are right. Now it's time to say goodbye.

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I don't think I broke any forum rule in all my actions. I just got burned without any good proper reason. Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless. It's just a blackmail, if not how could you questioned me for what I did 2 years ago? BTW, I made countless contributions to the forum but you guys now turn a blind eye trying to bury me alive. If I was doing something wrong at least you should warn me, the parma-ban is just unfair. I'm not some kind of criminal for God's sake!

By the way, I have a question?
Is posting relevant articles from external sites with reference URLs against the forum rules? Yes or no?

The way I see it, someone is trying to bury me before my time. Let's be frank!


You are burned same as all others members that someone reported for plagiarism, regardless of whether it is your first or the last post on this forum. There is no warning for such a violation of the forum rules, and I believe this is so because it would be just an extra job for moderators / admins in a way they would need to send warnings and check who is broke rule for first time, and who is do that for second or third time.

As I say before, someone is checking users post history back a few years ago and report users, who are then punished according to the rules of the forum. I think the chances for the return of your account are very small, just look how much support this user is get from his community and there is no reaction to that.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-regulushr-and-discussion-on-topic-good-for-the-forum-as-a-whole-5097792
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Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless. It's just a blackmail

Rule was existing 2 year back also. If you are not caught at that time it does not make you innocent.
Think if you were banned as newbie then you have nothing to show that you have any  "net positive" to the forum.
It is not the blackmail but you can ask for forgiveness.

Is posting relevant articles from external sites with reference URLs against the forum rules? Yes or no?

It is low quality post and forum rules prohibits you to do so. Forum want yours words and discussion and we are not looking for a post that is copied with reference link. If you having nothing to add and discuss on that external site article then you should not post them. (though adding link will not get you banned.)

You can use external site link if it is relevant to your original answer, give some facts to your answer or increase the weight of your answer.

We all get better and smarter by growing old. What I mean here is the version of me today is different from the version I was 2 years ago. By the way, posting relevant articles from external sites was not all I did, is it? I posted some good quality contents too in the past. The reason why I like sharing trending contents (hot topics) from external sites is because I want to see people reactions and what they actually think about it.

Example: BitFinex vs. Tether issues now, it's a hot topic (the most trending) and if you look around you might see almost zero discussions about it. This is the biggest crypto community in the world and how could nobody is talking about the latest news, what's happening in the cryptocurrency ecosystem?

But if nobody likes sharing the latest updates/articles about the cryptocurrency, even if it's not against the forum rules it's totally fine with me. I believe some people are using that as an evidence to destroy my reputation here. Well, from now on it's over. It's better to write only what's in head.
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Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless. It's just a blackmail

Rule was existing 2 year back also. If you are not caught at that time it does not make you innocent.
Think if you were banned as newbie then you have nothing to show that you have any  "net positive" to the forum.
It is not the blackmail but you can ask for forgiveness.

Is posting relevant articles from external sites with reference URLs against the forum rules? Yes or no?

It is low quality post and forum rules prohibits you to do so. Forum want yours words and discussion and we are not looking for a post that is copied with reference link. If you having nothing to add and discuss on that external site article then you should not post them. (though adding link will not get you banned.)

You can use external site link if it is relevant to your original answer, give some facts to your answer or increase the weight of your answer.

legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U

No. I got the notification on the top of my forum profile. I don't think I broke any rule of the forum in all my actions.

you did exactly that, you can't copy-paste without mentioning the source.
 
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Pointing out the posts I made 2 years ago when I was a "newbies" is pointless. It's just a blackmail

I tend to agree to this, if that is the only mistake you made, then permaban is a bit too much IMO

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Is posting relevant articles from external sites with reference URLs against the forum rules? Yes or no?

it is not against the rules , as long as you post the reference, in all world standards that does not count as plagiarism.

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The way I see it, someone is trying to bury me before my time. Let's be frank!

yes very possible, someone must have done a lot of digging to get to that point, but i suggest you keep your cool here, non of the admins replied, all of us here are normal members with 0 power, so staying cool and polite + being sorry for the mistake you did + promising not to do it again is probably the best you can do.

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