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April 02, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
#23
Hopefully petition goes through and IRS makes much needed amendments on BTC, no bandaid solutions  Grin
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April 02, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
#22

The biggest pressure on me at the moment is that I have to both pay 2013 taxes and make estimates on 2014.


Taxes on profits, what do you expected ? make 100%'s of profit with zero taxes ?

I always expected to pay my taxes.  Is there something in what I wrote that would make you think otherwise?

Obviously until the formal guidance from the IRS was issued it was somewhat unclear what the tax ramifications were going to be.  The guidance happened recently, and we are also nearing the deadline for actually putting money on the table here in the U.S.

My point is that even those of us who always expected to pay taxes may find a need for fiat liquidity, and those who did not (perhaps arguing that without formal guidance it was less of an obligation) may as well.

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April 02, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
#21
Taxes put the great impact on the price.

Yes they killed the gold and stock market totally.
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April 02, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
#20
Taxes put the great impact on the price.
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April 02, 2014, 11:48:26 AM
#19

The biggest pressure on me at the moment is that I have to both pay 2013 taxes and make estimates on 2014.


Taxes on profits, what you're expected ? make 100%s of profit with zero taxes ?
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April 02, 2014, 11:44:24 AM
#18

The biggest pressure on me at the moment is that I have to both pay 2013 taxes and make estimates on 2014.

I suspect that others in my general situation (began to capitalize in the last 12 months) are not uncommon.  A certain fraction of them will probably decide that cheating on one's taxes produces risks which are simply not worth the potential extra money.  If such people did not pull out the funds needed they are going to need to be doing this.

I personally neglected to consider the need to make estimates for 2014 when deciding how much to pull.  Since I did my main capitalization in the first 6 weeks of this year, the amount of taxes I need to budget for in 2014 are significant.  I gave myself a pretty fair margin to play with so I don't need to sell now to make my tax payments, but it's closer than I expected.  I'll bet that others are not so lucky and that we'll see significant instances of quasi-forced sales for the next few weeks and consequent negative pressure on the spot prices.

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April 02, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
#17
I dont think the price could fall any more, the bad news is already here since few weeks ago...

price is built in many times over.
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April 02, 2014, 11:24:31 AM
#16
I dont think the price could fall any more, the bad news is already here since few weeks ago...

Could easily fall to $400. The only way to trade BTC in China now is by cash deposit, which is very tricky for the majority of Chinese traders. IMO, most players will quit.
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April 02, 2014, 11:22:21 AM
#15
I dont think the price could fall any more, the bad news is already here since few weeks ago...
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April 02, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
#14
It was too fast drop again. Any rational explanation? Any news?

More FUD. Some BS article i saw that bobby lee had confirmed that China banned BTC or something like that.
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April 02, 2014, 11:17:00 AM
#13
people have been anticipating a retest of the $400 bottom. I imagine we will see that sometime in the next two weeks (if not today). I plan on doubling my bitcoin wallet around the $400 mark personally, then doubling again at $300.
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April 02, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
#12
Just the markets responding a bit. Strange predictions about a 266 dollar bottom will turn out false. Just let China respond for a few days. Although I admit that China is important, the departure of China is no death sentence to Bitcoin. Not yet in each case

The departure of China is very good for price stability -> more confidence in bitcoin -> way better adoption in developed countries.
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April 02, 2014, 11:07:20 AM
#11
The Pump and Dumpers are working VERY hard..    Kiss
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April 02, 2014, 10:36:57 AM
#10
1) its fake and stupid
2) it was posted on april 1

on april 2 (today) btc risen
then suddenly fell down. what explains the rise? it makes no sense

BTC38 has received instructions from central bank today. It's true, BTC ban incoming

Reddit:

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Chinese-speaking trader here, and here is my translation. Let me know if the translation is not clear.

Regarding our temporary suspension of CNY deposits.

Dear Customers,

We regret to let you know that as of midnight tonight (Apr. 2), you will no longer be able to fund your CNY account at BTC38 due to the latest PBOC regulation enforcement. BTC38 had been using third-party payment agent to process funds and that is no longer allowed according to PBOC regulation. Therefore, we have to suspend deposits via BTC38 e-code as well as bank transfers (transfers in).

Recently, there are rumors on the Internet stating that the PBOC will shutdown all Chinese virtual currency trading platforms. Those are just rumors and the PBOC have stated that they have no plan to do so. Today's change to our platform is the PBOC's enforcement of their Dec. 5, 2013 regulation guidelines regarding virtual currency exchanges. The message was delivered to us this evening via our third-party payment providers and our banks.

Therefore, we will follow PBOC's regulations and temporarily suspend CNY deposits. CNY withdraws, Bitcoin / Alt-coins deposits and withdraws are not effected. BTC38 holds more than 100% reserve of clients fund. Please do not worry about your funds in our exchange. They are safe.

We have plans to deal with our current problems and vision for our exchange operation going forward. In the mean time, you can trade on our exchange as usual.

BTC38

April 2, 2014
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April 02, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
#9
o the infamous cosmofly, whose trollness also feared amongst the living and dead, hi
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April 02, 2014, 10:23:42 AM
#8
It was noob trap, it is getting back up now.
Glad I'm hodling forever Smiley
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April 02, 2014, 10:22:08 AM
#7
Despair is good.
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April 02, 2014, 10:21:16 AM
#6
1) its fake and stupid
2) it was posted on april 1

on april 2 (today) btc risen
then suddenly fell down. what explains the rise? it makes no sense

BTC38 has received instructions from central bank today. It's true, BTC ban incoming

Finally someone with a sane mind
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April 02, 2014, 10:20:34 AM
#5
1) its fake and stupid
2) it was posted on april 1

on april 2 (today) btc risen
then suddenly fell down. what explains the rise? it makes no sense

BTC38 has received instructions from central bank today. It's true, BTC ban incoming
newbie
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April 02, 2014, 10:15:31 AM
#4
1) its fake and stupid
2) it was posted on april 1

on april 2 (today) btc risen
then suddenly fell down. what explains the rise? it makes no sense
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