Topic: Why is people against military actions against ISIS/IS? - page 3. (Read 2631 times)

Quote from: Nik1ab on August 16, 2014, 02:06:46 PM

Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

But a maybe is not good enough.. Help or no help..

It's not that easy. You can't just go around, meddle in everyone else's business and expect it to go well.
Besides: Nobody wants to help the people there. The FS just wants oil and countries like the UK or Denmark are just lapdogs of them and do whatever they want.

Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

If no one does anything.. Then they conquer more land, and at some point they are big enough to make camps/traning facilities to train terrorists to send them to the US, Denmark and any other non muslim country.

You're right, Denmark can choose to do what you guys want, but if you do attack ISIS you're basically feeding into their propaganda line of the west coming in to crusade. But while you're at it, we have a major human rights violator, know drug producer/dealer in the Northern section of the Korea peninsula that needs liberating.

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Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

That's simply untrue. It's dependence on the FS is obvious.

Well I can partially agree on that, with 1.5% of its GDP being spent on military spending its basically dependent on other European nations for defense. But if Denmark wants to go on it's unilateral crusade expect to see that figure double or triple.

So in other words you dont want anyone to help the civilans that are being killed and cant get food? You think that we are going there to conquer land?

Denmark is a small country, and we dont use a lot of money on our military.
But if it is required, then we do the same as we did in Libya. We dont use and troops on the ground. We only secure the airspace over the area and we bomb ISIS/IS bases and military equiptment.

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Quote from: Hamuki on August 16, 2014, 02:01:45 PM

Quote from: Nik1ab on August 16, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

Quote from: Nik1ab on August 16, 2014, 02:06:46 PM

Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

But a maybe is not good enough.. Help or no help..

It's not that easy. You can't just go around, meddle in everyone else's business and expect it to go well.
Besides: Nobody wants to help the people there. The FS just wants oil and countries like the UK or Denmark are just lapdogs of them and do whatever they want.

Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

If no one does anything.. Then they conquer more land, and at some point they are big enough to make camps/traning facilities to train terrorists to send them to the US, Denmark and any other non muslim country.

You're right, Denmark can choose to do what you guys want, but if you do attack ISIS you're basically feeding into their propaganda line of the west coming in to crusade. But while you're at it, we have a major human rights violator, know drug producer/dealer in the Northern section of the Korea peninsula that needs liberating.

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Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

That's simply untrue. It's dependence on the FS is obvious.

Well I can partially agree on that, with 1.5% of its GDP being spent on military spending its basically dependent on other European nations for defense. But if Denmark wants to go on it's unilateral crusade expect to see that figure double or triple.

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Quote from: Nik1ab on August 16, 2014, 02:06:46 PM

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Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

That's simply untrue. It's dependence on the FS is obvious.

Then please give me some proof of it.
Instead of claiming something that you cant back up like that..

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I wouldn't mind if the US or any other country bomb the ISIS to shit. ISIS is trying to exterminate whole ethnic groups, such as the Yazidis, Shabaks, Assyrians and Chaldeans. Time has come to stop this madness.

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Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

That's simply untrue. It's dependence on the FS is obvious.

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Quote from: Nik1ab on August 16, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

But a maybe is not good enough.. Help or no help..

It's not that easy. You can't just go around, meddle in everyone else's business and expect it to go well.
Besides: Nobody wants to help the people there. The FS just wants oil and countries like the UK or Denmark are just lapdogs of them and do whatever they want.

Denmark can choose if we want or dont want to help. Its our call. Same with almost any other country in the world.

If no one does anything.. Then they conquer more land, and at some point they are big enough to make camps/traning facilities to train terrorists to send them to the US, Denmark and any other non muslim country.

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Well what happened last time the Western world tried to depose a Theocracy in the Middle east, 14,000 coalition forces were killed, 20,000 Taliban/Al Qaeda force were killed. All of this at the toll of 18,000 civilians killed? The result? A western backed dictator, thats basically it, everything else from the Taliban regime is still basically in place.

But if the European Union wants to get their hands dirty, lose some tax paying citizens(soldiers), spend some money on devices that create no capital(weapons), kill a couple thousand civilians accidentally(collatoral damage), and get dragged into a conflict that will cost them billions and probably last 3-5 years median, without involving the US then I'm all for it! It's about high time that Europe ramped up it's military spending rather than being subsidized by the US(you're welcome)!

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

But a maybe is not good enough.. Help or no help..

It's not that easy. You can't just go around, meddle in everyone else's business and expect it to go well.
Besides: Nobody wants to help the people there. The FS just wants oil and countries like the UK or Denmark are just lapdogs of them and do whatever they want.

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

But a maybe is not good enough.. Help or no help..

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

Maybe they would do something if the FS wouldn't be creating another battlefield in Iraq right now.

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

Iran and Saudi Arabia isnt doing anything..
Someone has to do something. Denmark isnt doing this for oil.. We are doing it for the right of freedom. We dont have an economy based on oil or anything else that Iraq produces..

Even if the US is only doing it for the oil then I really dont care.. Aslong as lives are saved, and the extremists are put in the ground where they belong.

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Let's face it, you can't trust the USA to do the right thing for the right reasons. Furthermore, whenever blocks of people aren't armed, they're susceptible to being taken over by retarded neighbors. Take your pick.

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Because the Fascist States of America (FSA) aren't going in there for humanitarian reasons, but for oil.

So you dont want the US to help there, and they should just stay away?
And dont call a nation fascist.. Only the government if that is what you think of.

Yes, the only people that should be involved in this situation are nations like Iran or Saudi Arabia which have an actual interest in the resolving of this conflict (not just oil).
What does the FSA have to do there anyway? They are thousands of miles away from there (geographically).

And to answer your second comment: That's what I'm doing. I'm not saying americans are fascists. I'm saying the government is.

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