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April 30, 2014, 09:25:34 AM
#30
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It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.


what's wrong with nationalism? Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 11:21:38 PM
#29
I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Believe it or not I feel the same way as you.  I just find both points we made to be true at the same time.
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April 29, 2014, 05:57:36 PM
#28
I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

I find only assholes look for trouble.

What trouble am I looking for exactly? You're the one who's seemingly butthurt after I pointed out your fallacy.
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April 29, 2014, 05:54:11 PM
#27


It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.

Well racism too. I mean borders between people. Borders that makes our communication between races harder...
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April 29, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
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I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

I find only assholes look for trouble.
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April 29, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
#25
I don't think...

I don't think you get to determine what I say. Regardless, you should note that statement started with "I've found"...

Maybe I should have stated I don't generally associate with angry douchebags. So maybe it's just the non-angry douchebags that find it funny.

And mexican is not a race.

I never said I get to determine what you say, but I usually find only morons make such mass generalisations and assumptions.

And no, but black is, but you're nitpicking.
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April 29, 2014, 05:36:48 PM
#24
I don't think...

I don't think you get to determine what I say. Regardless, you should note that statement started with "I've found"...

Maybe I should have stated I don't generally associate with angry douchebags. So maybe it's just the non-angry douchebags that find it funny.

And mexican is not a race.
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April 29, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.

I've found the people who most appreciate stereotypes, are those that the stereotype is regarding. Black people love black jokes. Mexicans love mexican jokes. If they have to know you respect them, they take it for what it's worth.

I don't think you get to speak on behalf of what you think entire races find funny or not.

The title is pretty much self explanatory

I am sure racism is something wrong.
We are people from around the world - different races, different cultures.
We should respect each other as we are all same human beings.

In the world of today we should unite. Racism makes borders.

It's usually Nationalism that makes borders.
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April 29, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
#22
The title is pretty much self explanatory

I am sure racism is something wrong.
We are people from around the world - different races, different cultures.
We should respect each other as we are all same human beings.

In the world of today we should unite. Racism makes borders.
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April 29, 2014, 05:20:08 PM
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.

I've found the people who most appreciate stereotypes, are those that the stereotype is regarding. Black people love black jokes. Mexicans love mexican jokes. If they have to know you respect them, they take it for what it's worth.

There are also assholes. And assholes are assholes. Racism is just an excuse to be an asshole.
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April 29, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
#20
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You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.


You know, I just watched a Jon Stewart episode recently and he rightly pointed out that while America may have done a lot to tackle racism in the country people don't actually know what it is, what you're describing is a stereotype rather than racism which is why I openly laugh at and mock people who think using a certain word or describing people in a certain way is 'racist'.
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April 29, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
#19
Define racism.

You'll find a lot of what is flagged by the media as racism, doesn't not fit in to a "bad" definition of racism. Is recognising the benifits/drawbacks to physical differences between races, racist? Sure. Is it bad? No.

I have a lot of white, hispanic, and black friends. Always have. I see every bit as much racism out of the hispanics and blacks, as I do out of the the whites. Only difference is the hispanics and blacks are open about it.

Where I grew up, no one gave a shit about your race. In the region I live in currently, it's a much bigger issue. The politics of racism are big business.
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April 29, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
#18
I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.

lol

that's so not true Cheesy

perhaps if you live in the USA lol

when you live somewhere where people with different skin colors are absent they do notice it..
they react to it, usually ask did that guy stay out at the sunlight too long or was he in some kind of an explosion, something like that Cheesy


There was only one black kid in my class in primary school and I didn't think he was any different until an adult pointed it out and referred to him as 'black'. I think it's just social conditioning. Of course there are always exceptions, but if a kid did notice the difference they probably wont care that much about it.
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April 29, 2014, 04:02:44 PM
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it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy

i didn't know that only 1 quality can be primitive?

primitive qualities are the "basic" ones.. the ones that primates used in order to survive. caring for offspring is one of them, being wary of species that do not look like yours is also another one.

so you're saying that racism is a basic quality Cheesy

I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.

lol

that's so not true Cheesy

perhaps if you live in the USA lol

when you live somewhere where people with different skin colors are absent they do notice it..
they react to it, usually ask did that guy stay out at the sunlight too long or was he in some kind of an explosion, something like that Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 04:01:39 PM
#16
I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.

Yeah, this is true. Most children wont even notice the difference in skin colour. Racism is just hate and misplaced anger and those are gradually learnt later in life. If you're raised in an ignorant and xenophobic environment with racists as family, then yeah, there's a good chance you'll be a racist for therest of your life.
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April 29, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
#15
Being afraid of something unseen before and different to yourself is normal. Forming a stereotype of something you have little understanding of is normal too. Feeling uneasy about that stereotype is still normal.

BUT being hostile towards a person just because the person is different or fits an unpleasant stereotype, is primitive/uncivilised. That "difference" could be weight, gender, sex orientation, and race is just part of it.

Racism is a subset of a general "inequality". It just seemed to get centre stage.

There is different degree of racism/inequality in everyone. It is entwined with pride, fear, and anger. A civilised person learn to subdue and primitive person let it dictate.

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April 29, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
#14
I think because it's a trait commonly found in adults who act like children.  Children is very closed minded views and just the general fear of what they don't understand.  
This seems to imply to me a sense of regression.

Actually, very few children are racists. Those who are were usually raised in a racist environment, with closed minded adults who have a view of live that is more cynic than any child could possibly have.

Children are usually curious to what they don't understand; hence their desire to play.
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April 29, 2014, 03:02:19 PM
#13
it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy

i didn't know that only 1 quality can be primitive?

primitive qualities are the "basic" ones.. the ones that primates used in order to survive. caring for offspring is one of them, being wary of species that do not look like yours is also another one.
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April 29, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
#12
it's primitive because it is animalistic. a primate that sees something that does not look like its; so it becomes aggressive towards it.. which it thinks is for the sake of its survival.

eating food is animalistic too Cheesy


what's your point though?

caring about your offsprings is also animalistic

does that make it primitive too? Cheesy

I know you can see the point Cheesy
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April 29, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
#11
There are many levels and extremes of racism. IMO Primitive forms of racism are not typically found in large quantities although they do still exist. Primitive forms meaning someone looking at someone and wanting to kill/enslave/or stay away from JUST because of the color of a humans skin. This is the only form of racism that should be considered primitive.

I think the form of racism that exists these days is more stereotyping then pure racism and comes from the interpretation that a majority of crimes are committed by minorities & gangs and is fueled by the perception that minorities and gangs are primarily blacks & mexicans.

I personally do not agree with stereotyping either, but I wouldn't call it primitive.
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