Topic: Why is the activity required for Legendary random? (Read 1527 times)
I guess the legendary rank is supposed to be the highest, and it is, so they make it perilously hard to get to, as it is specifically reserved for people who are long-lasting members of the community. That's also why they're discussing a new rank, I guess.
If it were me, I would 'promote' people to legendary based on their constructive contribution. Not just at a random activity level above Hero.
It doesn't completely differentiate from hero. I would believe some people that pay for their advertisement usually don't mind what rank you are and pay some people equally. Not all of course, just some. For most of them, all they pay for is the advertisement you give them.
If anything, it doesn't make sense to pay someone for every post made. They should pay them once for putting it in the signature, then be done with it
If anything, it doesn't make sense to pay someone for every post made. They should pay them once for putting it in the signature, then be done with it
Thanks for the NSFW warning.
You're welcome. BTW, is he banned for posting NSFW stuffs?
A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.
Can you please link that post here?
Is the secret hash calculated and chosen fortnightly and in that way hero members become legendary?
Code:
Can you make getting legendary provability fair? So we know if you don't like us that we get it anyway 
Nah, that'd significantly complicate things. Currently this randomness is done with a single SQL query, which is very convenient.
Code:
update smf_members set ID_POST_GROUP=21 where ID_POST_GROUP=8 and
activity>=775 and activity>=775+conv(substr(sha1(concat(ID_MEMBER,
secretSeed)), 1, 2), 16, 10);
activity>=775 and activity>=775+conv(substr(sha1(concat(ID_MEMBER,
secretSeed)), 1, 2), 16, 10);
The required activity level per user is suitably random for betting, but anyone who can read my code (there are a few such people) will be able to exactly predict when someone will become Legendary, so I don't really recommend it.
Seed is hardcoded or stored in the database (otherwise it could not be read):
Out of curiosity, how would someone who can read your code be able to accurately predict when someone will become legendary without the secret seed?
I meant that the secret seed is in the code, so if you have access to it then you'll be able to calculate the number directly.
It also cant change, because that might result in already legendary members to lose their rank.
Thanks for the NSFW warning.
You're welcome. BTW, is he banned for posting NSFW stuffs?
A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.
Can you please link that post here?
Is the secret hash calculated and chosen fortnightly and in that way hero members become legendary?
Doesn't anybody think this user is farming for activity? --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hardcoresuperstar-542808
Thanks for the NSFW warning.
In this case, he might have to wait for a longer duration to become a legendary member.
No.
Theymos must be using a different algorithm for ranking legendary members.
A different algorithm compared to what? The algorithm to determine when you will be legendary was posted by theymos. It only relies on the user id and a secret hash that is identical for all users but unknown to anyone without database access.
Doesn't anybody think this user is farming for activity? --> https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hardcoresuperstar-542808
In this case, he might have to wait for a longer duration to become a legendary member.
Theymos must be using a different algorithm for ranking legendary members.
In this case, he might have to wait for a longer duration to become a legendary member.
Theymos must be using a different algorithm for ranking legendary members.
If you believe that you have not been here long enough. Anyone can just buy a legendary account for the right price. There is nothing special about any rank here. Dont get fooled by the shiny coins.
I might have not been here for long enough, but it is noticeable if the account is sold or not.That is just my opinion, and that opinion only applies to Legendary that have not sell their account.
- Signature Scoring.
Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
NO! You are very wrong. The only thing that makes someone legendary is their activity. Post quality and the sig does not matter. That would take a long time for people to check, and it doesn't matter. The activity system rewards you for posting. The legendary threshold is random for each person.
LOL! Another spammer detected.
Do you even know what was OP asking about?
And what are you talking of instead?
I think, getting promoted to Legendary Member depends on...
NO! You are very wrong. The only thing that makes someone legendary is their activity. Post quality and the sig does not matter. That would take a long time for people to check, and it doesn't matter. The activity system rewards you for posting. The legendary threshold is random for each person. - Post Quality.
Whether you were spamming on threads with one liners or irrelevant posts to increase your activity count, after joining the forum. Moreover, some members having the intention of selling their accounts, tries to undergo "potential activity farming" which might adversely affect the chances of becoming a Legendary Member sooner.
(You can check your average post quality here, though this is not an ultimate quality check)
- Signature Scoring.
Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
I think, getting promoted to Legendary Member depends on...
- Post Quality.
Whether you were spamming on threads with one liners or irrelevant posts to increase your activity count, after joining the forum. Moreover, some members having the intention of selling their accounts, tries to undergo "potential activity farming" which might adversely affect the chances of becoming a Legendary Member sooner.
(You can check your average post quality here, though this is not an ultimate quality check)
- Signature Scoring.
Becoming a Legendary Member sooner depends on what kind of signatures you are using. I noticed the ones wearing tame signatures or no signature at all, are becoming Legendary Members quite sooner and the ones actively participating in signature campaign, wearing annoying signatures are still a Hero Member with more than 940 activity counts.
I think the admins/mods made this because they don't want the account traders (i.e. people buying and selling accounts for profit) to have a predictable income period (as legendary accounts worth a lot more than hero).
P.S. Is there somewhere to check the exact activity point required for legendary, or not?
P.S. Is there somewhere to check the exact activity point required for legendary, or not?
I Personally think it would be fun checking each week and hoping to be bumped up!! that is obviously why its random. They dont want it to be super planned that at 800 exactly you get legendary etc.
Most people would probably want to know the exact goal and can understand the frustration of getting to 1k and still a hero.
Ill be happy for sr member lol
Most people would probably want to know the exact goal and can understand the frustration of getting to 1k and still a hero.
Ill be happy for sr member lol
Some members I just saw aren't legendry even after which some are legendry, so its random really.
Ladies and gentlemen... I present you a spammer that doesn't even know what he's talking about.
FYI: the OP was asking why it was random. It's already obvious that it's random.
Some members I just saw aren't legendry even after which some are legendry, so its random really.
How much does a Legendary account go for roughly? very interested to know
Its kind off-topic but the answer is : around 2 BTC
How much does a Legendary account go for roughly? very interested to know
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
You will become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity and it is random per user. Refer hereLegendary is special because you will be respected by the community and it is not because you have higher rank than the others, but it is because you have been in the forum for years. That is why the Legendary member is special.
If you believe that you have not been here long enough. Anyone can just buy a legendary account for the right price. There is nothing special about any rank here. Dont get fooled by the shiny coins.
I know people do sell them... I just cant imagine getting rid of my account even if I did not use it much at some point. The ones selling legendary are crazy considering amount of time put in.
But I think the not knowing makes it kinda fun. I have not been real lucky there are Legendary under me... but that is how it goes. I could get it next period or it could be 6 months... and I'm ok with that and enjoy it.
It's just a forum rank, nothing else nothing more, any forum can add it and do it, look I am a Full Member with less activity than OP
It's just a bit of fun, creates a bit of suspense, mystery etc.
Who cares any way though, it's not really important what rank you are.
All being a Hero or Legendary Member means is you've been in the bitcoin scene for a long time.
Who cares any way though, it's not really important what rank you are.
All being a Hero or Legendary Member means is you've been in the bitcoin scene for a long time.
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random?
I have been thinking about this when I was a hero rank. Why did theymos made it random? I don't think it was for a bit of "fun" because it isn't funny how some hero members had to wait almost a year more than others to become legendary. I believe it has to do with account trading and farming. The unknown time of promotion make members less likely to sell a hero rank account with high activity because it might turn legendary soon. Buyers would be likely to pay less for these hero accounts because they might need to wait another 6 months for promotion. Within these waiting months, other members may spot account changing hand because of difference in posting quality and habits, hence spot potential scammers. This is just my point of view, no one knows exactly why except theymos himself.
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
You will become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity and it is random per user. Refer hereLegendary is special because you will be respected by the community and it is not because you have higher rank than the others, but it is because you have been in the forum for years. That is why the Legendary member is special.
With all the account sales and scamming going on i dont think any rank makes you special anymore. There are still a few of us whom have been here awhile and havent sold our accounts though
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
You will become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity and it is random per user. Refer hereLegendary is special because you will be respected by the community and it is not because you have higher rank than the others, but it is because you have been in the forum for years. That is why the Legendary member is special.
If you believe that you have not been here long enough. Anyone can just buy a legendary account for the right price. There is nothing special about any rank here. Dont get fooled by the shiny coins.
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
You will become Legendary somewhere between 775 and 1030 activity and it is random per user. Refer hereLegendary is special because you will be respected by the community and it is not because you have higher rank than the others, but it is because you have been in the forum for years. That is why the Legendary member is special.
For all intents and purposes, the Legendary rank is just a bit of a joke. If you just want it because you think you'll get more in campaigns, I don't think you're here for the right reasons.
If you're that valuable, anyway, you can just negotiate a price.
If you're that valuable, anyway, you can just negotiate a price.
I never said I aimed to be Legendary to get more from signature campaigns :3
Everyone wants to be the highest rank. It's human. I don't even think i'll get that far, TBH. Maybe not even Hero xD
Yeah, I see how it's kinda a joke.
For all intents and purposes, the Legendary rank is just a bit of a joke. If you just want it because you think you'll get more in campaigns, I don't think you're here for the right reasons.
If you're that valuable, anyway, you can just negotiate a price.
If you're that valuable, anyway, you can just negotiate a price.
Being able to predict events gets you bored. It's more fun this way imo.
As the title says, why is the activity required for Legendary random? Why is this rank so special? It's just another rank. And besides the sig campaign pay, I can't find anything different about it than a Hero member rank. It seems pretty weird to me, and can be kind of depressing if you are one of the unlucky ones who gets Legendary at like, 1000 activity xD
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