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Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 12:40:16 PM

you haven't read my last replies in the thread I started..

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that is what grinds my gears when some are allowed to do something while others aren't

even in RL I got kicked out of class multiple times when some students were treated differently then others, my classteacher hated me because I was the only one who stood up to her Cheesy

altough she treated me better then others before that, I didn't want other students to suffer, I hate inequality, especially from superiors

I was never afraid of consequences when justice was at stake Cheesy

altough I almost never got the justice I had to do it just to show I wasn't going to take it peacefully..

To be honest, you sound like an immature person with an authority problem. There's a difference between standing up to an actual injustice as opposed to just being obnoxious and having a "no-one-can-tell-ME-what-to-do" attitude.

This forum is free for you to use, all you have to do is follow the rules that the owners have established...

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Quote from: Lauda on April 21, 2014, 07:28:39 AM

Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:44:23 AM

Quote from: Lauda on April 21, 2014, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:30:16 AM

because they are egocentric,vengeful, and only care about themselves

Stop raging around the forums because of your well deserved ban. It will not get it lifted.

I know since the beginning it won't get lifted, they will ban this account too

Then what is the point of posting again?
You're wasting your own and, what is more important, their time.

you haven't read my last replies in the thread I started..

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that is what grinds my gears when some are allowed to do something while others aren't

even in RL I got kicked out of class multiple times when some students were treated differently then others, my classteacher hated me because I was the only one who stood up to her Cheesy

altough she treated me better then others before that, I didn't want other students to suffer, I hate inequality, especially from superiors

I was never afraid of consequences when justice was at stake Cheesy

altough I almost never got the justice I had to do it just to show I wasn't going to take it peacefully..

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Quote from: dogechode on April 21, 2014, 08:35:52 AM

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if someone gets banned and then creates another account to post about how they got banned, does that account not get banned as well? Is it just the loss (temporary, assuming it's not a perm-ban) of member status and associated privileges that is the punishment?

You get warned that you're ban evading. If you continue posting on another account while you're supposed to be banned (after the warning), that account gets banned as well. This could possibly result in your ban being extended.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if someone gets banned and then creates another account to post about how they got banned, does that account not get banned as well? Is it just the loss (temporary, assuming it's not a perm-ban) of member status and associated privileges that is the punishment?

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Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:44:23 AM

Quote from: Lauda on April 21, 2014, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:30:16 AM

because they are egocentric,vengeful, and only care about themselves

Stop raging around the forums because of your well deserved ban. It will not get it lifted.

I know since the beginning it won't get lifted, they will ban this account too

Then what is the point of posting again?
You're wasting your own and, what is more important, their time.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 21, 2014, 06:43:14 AM

Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:30:16 AM

because they are egocentric,vengeful, and only care about themselves

Stop raging around the forums because of your well deserved ban. It will not get it lifted.

I know since the beginning it won't get lifted, they will ban this account too

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Quote from: KileZmaj on April 21, 2014, 06:30:16 AM

because they are egocentric,vengeful, and only care about themselves

Stop raging around the forums because of your well deserved ban. It will not get it lifted.

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because they are egocentric,vengeful, and only care about themselves

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Quote from: Chemistry1988 on April 20, 2014, 02:24:45 PM

Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 11:23:07 AM

How long did he/she get banned?

You can find that in the title of that thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mpoe-pr-perma-banned-after-warning-temp-ban-more-appropriate-552981).
Time to have a cup of coffee? Cheesy

Oh how did I miss that. Sorry, too much night work over the weekend.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 11:23:07 AM

Okay thank you for presenting me with the right post(s).

No problem.

Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 11:23:07 AM

How long did he/she get banned?

You can find that in the title of that thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mpoe-pr-perma-banned-after-warning-temp-ban-more-appropriate-552981).
Time to have a cup of coffee? Cheesy

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Quote from: SaltySpitoon on April 20, 2014, 12:00:47 PM

No, not at all, MPOE-PR was banned for receiving a formal warning to stop spamming, and then insulting Maged in response. You don't get banned for insulting mods, just like how mods are allowed to insult members. Its a two way thing. You can however get banned for disregarding a warning.

MPOE received a warning for spamming? I can certainly understand the response he gave then. MPOE was many things, but a spammer is not one of them. MPOE's average post contained more substance than 99% of posts on the forum here.

Quote from: DiamondCardz on April 20, 2014, 12:14:35 PM

I don't think enough people are aware of the Ignore feature, to be honest - that is one solution to these problems.

The ignore feature solves no problems at all. If i start spreading a load of lies and bullshit designed to defame Obama and Obama chooses to ignore that, it's reputation is still damaged. If i start spreading a load of crap in BCmine's topic and BCmine chooses to hit the ignore button, it still has effect on the reputation of its business.

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I don't think enough people are aware of the Ignore feature, to be honest - that is one solution to these problems.

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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?

Quote from: Darkstone2 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

It is. It is almost impossible to discuss anything in the securities forum because of the constant insults being thrown around.

Yet MPOE-PR was banned more of less because he/she insulted one mod..

No, not at all, MPOE-PR was banned for receiving a formal warning to stop spamming, and then insulting Maged in response. You don't get banned for insulting mods, just like how mods are allowed to insult members. Its a two way thing. You can however get banned for disregarding a warning.

Inaba yells and insults everyone, but they are also yelling and insulting him. You can get banned for excessive personal attacks, however in Inaba's case people attack him and he attacks them back. I'd call that an argument.

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Quote from: Chemistry1988 on April 20, 2014, 10:50:31 AM

Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: Darkstone2 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

Yet MPOE-PR was banned more of less because he/she insulted one mod..

What's up with that?

You can find it here.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6027033

Quote from: Maged on April 01, 2014, 09:09:35 PM

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on April 01, 2014, 01:55:41 PM

Quote from: master-P on April 01, 2014, 01:52:02 PM

Old members shouldn't get preferential treatment if they break the rules. No one would be complaining if a new member got banned for swearing at a moderator. Sometimes people need to be made an example of in order to keep others in check.

You don't get banned for swearing at a moderator. MPOE-PR was asked to stop spamming/trolling by Maged, and rather than stopping, she swore at him. The act of insulting Maged itself didn't get her banned, it was the warning, and then lack of acknowledgement of the warning that got the ban.

Oh, the warning was acknowledged, all right. She specifically quoted my warning in her "fuck you" reply. That reply was off-topic and was extremely likely to result in additional off-topic posts from other users. Had she posted that message in the correct location, she would have been fine. This is also why TAT wasn't banned: you can insult us and complain all you want in Meta, since doing so is often on-topic.

Beyond the reasons you mentioned for the ban, there are some more:
1) I've deleted many of MPOE-PR's posts in the past, throughout many threads.
2) MPOE-PR has an orange ignore button.

Alone, none of these things would result in a ban. You can only get banned if you put them all together.

Quote from: Bicknellski on April 01, 2014, 10:53:23 AM

And yet Inaba can slander and defame people up and down the forums for years and nothing is done? Funny.

Slandering and defaming people in a thread about a company of which you are an employee is often on-topic because it reveals the true character of the company. If we removed those posts, there would be a much better argument for claiming that we support scammers.

Okay thank you for presenting me with the right post(s). The case of MPOE-PR was different, and I do agree that the ban was deserved.
How long did he/she get banned?

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Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: Darkstone2 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

Yet MPOE-PR was banned more of less because he/she insulted one mod..

What's up with that?

You can find it here.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6027033

Quote from: Maged on April 01, 2014, 09:09:35 PM

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on April 01, 2014, 01:55:41 PM

Quote from: master-P on April 01, 2014, 01:52:02 PM

Old members shouldn't get preferential treatment if they break the rules. No one would be complaining if a new member got banned for swearing at a moderator. Sometimes people need to be made an example of in order to keep others in check.

You don't get banned for swearing at a moderator. MPOE-PR was asked to stop spamming/trolling by Maged, and rather than stopping, she swore at him. The act of insulting Maged itself didn't get her banned, it was the warning, and then lack of acknowledgement of the warning that got the ban.

Oh, the warning was acknowledged, all right. She specifically quoted my warning in her "fuck you" reply. That reply was off-topic and was extremely likely to result in additional off-topic posts from other users. Had she posted that message in the correct location, she would have been fine. This is also why TAT wasn't banned: you can insult us and complain all you want in Meta, since doing so is often on-topic.

Beyond the reasons you mentioned for the ban, there are some more:
1) I've deleted many of MPOE-PR's posts in the past, throughout many threads.
2) MPOE-PR has an orange ignore button.

Alone, none of these things would result in a ban. You can only get banned if you put them all together.

Quote from: Bicknellski on April 01, 2014, 10:53:23 AM

And yet Inaba can slander and defame people up and down the forums for years and nothing is done? Funny.

Slandering and defaming people in a thread about a company of which you are an employee is often on-topic because it reveals the true character of the company. If we removed those posts, there would be a much better argument for claiming that we support scammers.

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Quote from: EFS on April 20, 2014, 10:24:14 AM

Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 10:11:29 AM

So if I start being offensive toward you (not going to happen), I wouldn't get banned?

Yes.

Quote from: Darkstone2 on April 20, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

Yet MPOE-PR was banned more of less because he/she insulted one mod..

What's up with that?

dogechode

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I dunno I think the moderation on here is pretty damned spot-on. I love that the mods are all over your case every 20 seconds like on some forums and they allow adult discussions, topics, language, etc. Frankly I think they try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't need or want the mods to be fighting everyone's battles for them.

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Quote from: Lauda on April 20, 2014, 10:11:29 AM

So if I start being offensive toward you (not going to happen), I wouldn't get banned?

Yes.

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Quote from: BadBear on April 20, 2014, 09:51:33 AM

No.

So if I start being offensive toward you (not going to happen), I wouldn't get banned?

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It is. It is almost impossible to discuss anything in the securities forum because of the constant insults being thrown around.

Yet MPOE-PR was banned more of less because he/she insulted one mod..

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