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Topic: Why is the price of BTC still so high eventhough BCH is going up - page 2. (Read 1977 times)

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This is dumb... the complete obvious answer as to why BCH is going up is because exchanges are simply NOT allowing deposits of BCH yet, so every single person with their BCH in cold storage are not able to dump yet. Looks like we were better off simply leaving our BTC on the exchanges during the fork because those who did will be able to cash out their BCH at the highest price.

There is no option to sell the BCC as of now due to unavailablity of wallet or other deposit options. Everyone expects the hard fork on yesterday but price is still around  2700$ or even more.
So people are not fear about using bitcoin now and using it freely even transaction seems good like earlier.

If you're BCC is already on the exchanges,  you can sell. You just can't deposit BCC from cold storage to exchanges currently.
You can on hitbtc and viabtc.all you have to know is how to split properly.
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This is dumb... the complete obvious answer as to why BCH is going up is because exchanges are simply NOT allowing deposits of BCH yet, so every single person with their BCH in cold storage are not able to dump yet. Looks like we were better off simply leaving our BTC on the exchanges during the fork because those who did will be able to cash out their BCH at the highest price.

There is no option to sell the BCC as of now due to unavailablity of wallet or other deposit options. Everyone expects the hard fork on yesterday but price is still around  2700$ or even more.
So people are not fear about using bitcoin now and using it freely even transaction seems good like earlier.

If you're BCC is already on the exchanges,  you can sell. You just can't deposit BCC from cold storage to exchanges currently.
legendary
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This is dumb... the complete obvious answer as to why BCH is going up is because exchanges are simply NOT allowing deposits of BCH yet, so every single person with their BCH in cold storage are not able to dump yet. Looks like we were better off simply leaving our BTC on the exchanges during the fork because those who did will be able to cash out their BCH at the highest price.

There is no option to sell the BCC as of now due to unavailablity of wallet or other deposit options. Everyone expects the hard fork on yesterday but price is still around  2700$ or even more.
So people are not fear about using bitcoin now and using it freely even transaction seems good like earlier.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Money loves speed
This is dumb... the complete obvious answer as to why BCH is going up is because exchanges are simply NOT allowing deposits of BCH yet, so every single person with their BCH in cold storage are not able to dump yet. Looks like we were better off simply leaving our BTC on the exchanges during the fork because those who did will be able to cash out their BCH at the highest price.
sr. member
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because bitcoin user still believe BTC above BCH
same with etherum, etherum user still believe ETH above ETC
The case of ETH fork is entirely different than we had here,so you really cannot compare the two forks and this split is solely because of two contrasting ideas and visions and it is a really interesting development and it is really hard to predict how BCH will perform in the future as well as bitcoin after the upgrade,glad to see the price of BTC stable even after the fork.
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because bitcoin user still believe BTC above BCH
same with etherum, etherum user still believe ETH above ETC
hero member
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It does not make any sense ...
the coins are doubled and 300-600$ is added to the value
does not make sense imo

What makes it doesn't make sense? It's normal in cryptocurrency trading market.
You've expect that bitcoin price will fall below $2000 again?
Even with bitcoin cash split will not pull bitcoin price that much, instead those coins gain more value.
But, bcash price will dump hard until it reach some point, as the highest rate.
On the other hand, bitcoin price expected to increase due to segwit will be activated soon.
1065 blocks to go https://coin.dance/blocks?update
sr. member
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Some traders stick on what they believe, that bitcoin could change thier life. Bch is like a new star is born, but the question is  ,is it ready to enter the world of cryptocurrency?  Can it overpower bitcoin someday?
Never, if this future become true, I will go out the crypto market and forgot it forever. Maybe in short time it can pass Bitcoin as reach to $2000 or even $4000 per coin if China want make investor (newbie and speculator) interested it and sell their Bitcoin, Altcoin for buying Bitcoin Cash. But in mid time or long than, I believe not have crypto can replace Bitcoin.
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Some traders stick on what they believe, that bitcoin could change thier life. Bch is like a new star is born, but the question is  ,is it ready to enter the world of cryptocurrency?  Can it overpower bitcoin someday?
legendary
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Makes sense. Came here looking for answers, as I thought everybody will dump their BCC hard as soon as they have it and seems the opposite is happening.

But yeah, there is not so much people with BCC right now. That is the point.

They can't dump BCH right now. This chain makes no blocks since 9 hours! Exchanges stopped depositing and withdrawing.
That's why you see this high price of BCH. As soon as this chain is able to create 6 blocks per hour, which can take a long time before it happens, people will probably dump that shitcoin into oblivion. The higher the price now gets, the faster the guys wanna dump it.
And Bitcoin is holding because Bcash/BCH is just another altcoin and could give you free money, meaning more BTC.
Simple is that.

There have been 12 blocks mined since the hard fork. And yes, I believed that if the chain was able to create 6 blocks per hour there will be a surge in dumping this altcoin. And there are still not claiming this 'free coins" and just holding and observing from the background. But once everything is clear, another wave of dumping will occur pulling the price further.

My theory is people {pumpers} are just moving coins around on exchanges that released coins to their users. Most exchanges do

not accept BCC deposits yet and even if they do, this will most probably bankrupt them. { People dumping BCC for Fiat } The

pumpers cashed out before the event to enable them to manipulate the markets. { They will pump the price artificially and then

dump to take profits. }  Angry

Most BCC holders are still busy figuring out how to extract their BCC, so a flood of coins {supply} will come.. when they have done

that. { By that time, pumpers would have cashed out at a high price }

This is what I'm saying, there are still who do not want to extract BCC/BCH for the fear of losing his BTC. Good example is this guy losing 45 BTC in his wallet, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/release-the-hounds-458-btc-stolen-electrum-walletcom-criminal-sticky-pls-2059967
And there are a lot of threads going around seeking help on how to claim BCC/BCH in their Electrum wallet so I believed they will cash it out as soon as they got it. And Exchanges as well are not accepting BCC/BCH for now. I do think that the price could go down to $200 at least when everything has cool down.
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My theory is people {pumpers} are just moving coins around on exchanges that released coins to their users. Most exchanges do

not accept BCC deposits yet and even if they do, this will most probably bankrupt them. { People dumping BCC for Fiat } The

pumpers cashed out before the event to enable them to manipulate the markets. { They will pump the price artificially and then

dump to take profits. }  Angry

Most BCC holders are still busy figuring out how to extract their BCC, so a flood of coins {supply} will come.. when they have done

that. { By that time, pumpers would have cashed out at a high price }
I agree. Some big holders are just pumping BCH before everyone claim their BCH and come to exchanges for trade. As soon as that happens, they will sell all their holdings.

Regarding Bitcoin price, Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash aren't inversely proportional. They don't have much relation. Moreover, BCH is free coin and people aren't dumping Bitcoin for Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin price will increase and is not dependent upon any Altcoin whereas Altcoins are very much dependent upon Bitcoin.
legendary
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My theory is people {pumpers} are just moving coins around on exchanges that released coins to their users. Most exchanges do

not accept BCC deposits yet and even if they do, this will most probably bankrupt them. { People dumping BCC for Fiat } The

pumpers cashed out before the event to enable them to manipulate the markets. { They will pump the price artificially and then

dump to take profits. }  Angry

Most BCC holders are still busy figuring out how to extract their BCC, so a flood of coins {supply} will come.. when they have done

that. { By that time, pumpers would have cashed out at a high price }
legendary
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Makes sense. Came here looking for answers, as I thought everybody will dump their BCC hard as soon as they have it and seems the opposite is happening.

But yeah, there is not so much people with BCC right now. That is the point.

They can't dump BCH right now. This chain makes no blocks since 9 hours! Exchanges stopped depositing and withdrawing.
That's why you see this high price of BCH. As soon as this chain is able to create 6 blocks per hour, which can take a long time before it happens, people will probably dump that shitcoin into oblivion. The higher the price now gets, the faster the guys wanna dump it.
And Bitcoin is holding because Bcash/BCH is just another altcoin and could give you free money, meaning more BTC.
Simple is that.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 263
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

Why is BCH over $800 on Trex and over $1000 on Yobit?  Grin

yeah we will see BCH/BCC hitting $1000++ or even we can see $2000,
but no matter what,Bitcoin Cash will never replace Bitcoin.Because Clone always be a Clone,
other than that Bitcoin Cash also has an issue with their system (or might be no,i got this info from coinbase),
it's just matter of time when everybody hyping this altcoin and then BOOM mass selling happen.
I just hope,you guys don't get caught by their scheme and don't be greedy.
even if you only profitting $100 just take it,it'll be better profitting other than lossing.

Remember what they did with their false Bitcoin before,just like Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin Core.
it will not be the first and it will not be the last for them.

I dont think bcc is a clone because it has very different feature than btc. Not because it was named as btc, it will automatically be its clone. It is just another altcoin that was produced by btc and in somewsome ways it is just a renovation rather than a clone. Bcc is under maintenance for now so better yet wait for a week or so then you  can trade your bcc.

oh well,
so you think Bitcoin Cash aka BCC/BCH not a clone ?
let me ask you about BCC/BCH,who is creating this Bitcoin Cash ? Satoshi or who ?
and what do you mean by 'very different feature than btc' ? what is the different between both of them ?
it's created because of chain split,and you said 'produced by btc and in some ways it is just a renovation' ? what is renovation ?
it has been created a day ago and you said it's a renovation ?
your comment doesn't make a sense at all.

NOTE : Even coinbase didn't want to add it because it has an issue or problem in their network.You said it was a RENOVATION?

sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 250
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

Why is BCH over $800 on Trex and over $1000 on Yobit?  Grin

yeah we will see BCH/BCC hitting $1000++ or even we can see $2000,
but no matter what,Bitcoin Cash will never replace Bitcoin.Because Clone always be a Clone,
other than that Bitcoin Cash also has an issue with their system (or might be no,i got this info from coinbase),
it's just matter of time when everybody hyping this altcoin and then BOOM mass selling happen.
I just hope,you guys don't get caught by their scheme and don't be greedy.
even if you only profitting $100 just take it,it'll be better profitting other than lossing.

Remember what they did with their false Bitcoin before,just like Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin Core.
it will not be the first and it will not be the last for them.

I dont think bcc is a clone because it has very different feature than btc. Not because it was named as btc, it will automatically be its clone. It is just another altcoin that was produced by btc and in somewsome ways it is just a renovation rather than a clone. Bcc is under maintenance for now so better yet wait for a week or so then you  can trade your bcc.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 263
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

Why is BCH over $800 on Trex and over $1000 on Yobit?  Grin

yeah we will see BCH/BCC hitting $1000++ or even we can see $2000,
but no matter what,Bitcoin Cash will never replace Bitcoin.Because Clone always be a Clone,
other than that Bitcoin Cash also has an issue with their system (or might be no,i got this info from coinbase),
it's just matter of time when everybody hyping this altcoin and then BOOM mass selling happen.
I just hope,you guys don't get caught by their scheme and don't be greedy.
even if you only profitting $100 just take it,it'll be better profitting other than lossing.

Remember what they did with their false Bitcoin before,just like Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin Core.
it will not be the first and it will not be the last for them.
legendary
Activity: 3024
Merit: 2148
It does not make any sense ...
the coins are doubled and 300-600$ is added to the value
does not make sense imo

Because Bitcoin's price (in USD) goes up or down only when it's bought/sold for fiat. When BTC is exchanged for altcoin, or altcoin exchanged for USD, it has no direct impact on BTC price. It might influence traders to buy or sell BTC, but they can also ignore alts when they are making their decisions on BTC/USD markets.
BTC price would drop if people were selling BTC for fiat and using that fiat to buy BCH, but this is not the case because people can trade BCH/BTC directly, and this is actually the highest volume in all BCH trading pairs.
hero member
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Makes sense. Came here looking for answers, as I thought everybody will dump their BCC hard as soon as they have it and seems the opposite is happening.

But yeah, there is not so much people with BCC right now. That is the point.
hero member
Activity: 615
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https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

Why is BCH over $800 on Trex and over $1000 on Yobit?  Grin
hero member
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I think is because many people still believe in bitcoin and never want bitcoincash to appear, and after segwit news, the users believe that the problem had been solved and now back to used bitcoin again, and some whales are trying to pump bitcoin, they want to advantage from the forking situation, and that caused the price to go up
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