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Topic: Why is there such an insurgence of flat-earthers in 2015? - page 6. (Read 29814 times)

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Thanks for the entertainment hahaha
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From Google: Balloon-powered Internet for everyone

"What is Project Loon?

Many of us think of the Internet as a global community. But two-thirds of the world’s population does not yet have Internet access. Project Loon is a network of balloons traveling on the edge of space, designed to connect people in rural and remote areas, help fill coverage gaps, and bring people back online after disasters.

The technology

Project Loon balloons float in the stratosphere, twice as high as airplanes and the weather. In the stratosphere, there are many layers of wind, and each layer of wind varies in direction and speed. Loon balloons go where they’re needed by rising or descending into a layer of wind blowing in the desired direction of travel. By partnering with Telecommunications companies to share cellular spectrum we’ve enabled people to connect to the balloon network directly from their phones and other LTE-enabled devices. The signal is then passed across the balloon network and back down to the global Internet on Earth."


How Loon flies

"Project Loon balloons travel approximately 20 km above the Earth’s surface in the stratosphere. Winds in the stratosphere are stratified, and each layer of wind varies in speed and direction. Project Loon uses software algorithms to determine where its balloons need to go, then moves each one into a layer of wind blowing in the right direction. By moving with the wind, the balloons can be arranged to form one large communications network. "

Video: Google Project Loon Proves Flat Earth

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I do believe there are misconceptions about the earth's shape and how space works in general. but CMON the earth is totally not flat lol!
After what distance does water start to bend? Common sense says it will always seek lowest point and be flat.

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I do believe there are misconceptions about the earth's shape and how space works in general. but CMON the earth is totally not flat lol!
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Video: How Rainbows bend & curve NEW THEORY

This video talks about how, if the sun is covered like the bible says, then it may account for sundogs, halos and how a rainbow appears.

Notice the halo in the third picture reflects the rainbow directly below it.

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Video: Micro-satellite to inspect if Americans did land on Moon

"Russian engineers, tired of debating whether the US really landed on the moon, have decided to build a satellite to receive footage from there."

the best comments, IMHO:

"These guys will probably mysteriously die in strange circumstances like all the Holistic doctors that died recently."
"If they really landed on the moon like they did that many years ago, the interesting thing is why they don't go back to explore more... something fishy is going on about the moon landing subject, whether they landed or not all in all."
"America is probably going to shoot the rocket down soon as it takes off"
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Oceans have much higher tides as lakes or rivers because salt water has a higher electro conductivity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg2deAEhoF4
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It's not all Flat-Earth, there's also a Concave Earth theory....the idea is the light bends so when you look you see straight ahead but it's really bending as seen below...in other words we're not on a globe, we're bending as if we're in a ball.

Globe, Flat or Concave? - Laser Experiment on Lake Zegrzynski & Binocular Test at Canary Islands



This experiment should be repeated on a salt flat, I suspect the concave curvature is due to surface tension on the water. I believe this experiment if done on land will show the Earth is flat. In any case the globe Earth model is completely out the window.

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It's not all Flat-Earth, there's also a Concave Earth theory....the idea is the light bends so when you look you see straight ahead but it's really bending as seen below...in other words we're not on a globe, we're bending as if we're in a ball.

Globe, Flat or Concave? - Laser Experiment on Lake Zegrzynski & Binocular Test at Canary Islands

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Video: The Moon - Is NOT What We've Been Told!



Video: My theory of how a lunar eclipse works on the flat Earth, with Rahu



The book of Enoch talks about heavenly stations.

"Significance of Time Stations

An English translation by Laurence is useful for illustrating that early astronomers would have held knowledge of 'time stations'. To be more specific, there is indication from the Ethiopian Enoch that the ancients time tracked both a station of the Moon, and also a station for the Sun:

    [Chapter 71:] "The book of the revolutions of the luminaries of heaven, according to... their respective periods... and their respective months... according to every year of the world for ever... ." [Skipping to Chapter 73:] "... I beheld their stations... according to the fixed order of the months the Sun rises and sets... thirty days belonging to the Sun... [All the days belonging to each year can be correlated to a fixed number of days]... to the Sun and stars... thirty days belonging to them... The Moon brings on all the years exactly, that their stations may come neither too forwards nor too backwards a single day; but that the years may be changed with correct precision in [a fixed number of] days... The year then becomes truly complete according to the station of the Moon, and the station of the Sun... which rise and set in them for thirty days."

From the Enoch literature, it is apparent that the ancients did once time track a "station of the Sun"--probably in association with a cycle of 30 days. Portions of text from the astronomcial book also make it clear that a "station to the Moon" was time tracked inside of the year cycle."


Revolutions of the Luminaries of Heaven
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The plane of the earth's orbit around the sun is slightly different than the plane of the moon's orbit around the earth. The moon's orbital plane around the earth is off by about 5.1 degrees from the earth's orbital plane around the sun. This is why you see a partial moon eclipse at times.

At other times, the position of the earth in it's orbit around the sun, causes a total lunar eclipse. This is because the moon's orbital plane remains stationary in its position with regard to at least the galactic plane, if not the universal whole.

While this is a little difficult to explain on paper in words, learning the geometry of the actual motions of the earth, moon, and sun shows that the standard understanding of bodies in space is correct.

In other words, flat earth theory in this instance is completely wrong.

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I wonder how the earth is a pear shape figure would fit into this: Figure of the Earth

Gone Pear Shaped

"The earth is officially ‘pear-shaped’ – not a round sphere as is commonly believed. Now do not get the wrong idea about this, it is not shaped like some huge interstellar fruit, that, while interesting would be plain ridiculous. It is barely pear-shaped, but pear-shaped enough."

The links you supplied suggest that the small amount of pear shape might not be noticeable if you simply looked at the earth from a distance. The pear shape of earth might make a difference in the orbits of both, earth around the sun, and the moon around the earth. But the pear shape is small enough that for any time within a hundred thousand years, the difference in orbit would be negligible.

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The plane of the earth's orbit around the sun is slightly different than the plane of the moon's orbit around the earth. The moon's orbital plane around the earth is off by about 5.1 degrees from the earth's orbital plane around the sun. This is why you see a partial moon eclipse at times.

At other times, the position of the earth in it's orbit around the sun, causes a total lunar eclipse. This is because the moon's orbital plane remains stationary in its position with regard to at least the galactic plane, if not the universal whole.

While this is a little difficult to explain on paper in words, learning the geometry of the actual motions of the earth, moon, and sun shows that the standard understanding of bodies in space is correct.

In other words, flat earth theory in this instance is completely wrong.

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I wonder how the earth is a pear shape figure would fit into this: Figure of the Earth

Gone Pear Shaped

"The earth is officially ‘pear-shaped’ – not a round sphere as is commonly believed. Now do not get the wrong idea about this, it is not shaped like some huge interstellar fruit, that, while interesting would be plain ridiculous. It is barely pear-shaped, but pear-shaped enough."
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The plane of the earth's orbit around the sun is slightly different than the plane of the moon's orbit around the earth. The moon's orbital plane around the earth is off by about 5.1 degrees from the earth's orbital plane around the sun. This is why you see a partial moon eclipse at times.

At other times, the position of the earth in it's orbit around the sun, causes a total lunar eclipse. This is because the moon's orbital plane remains stationary in its position with regard to at least the galactic plane, if not the universal whole.

While this is a little difficult to explain on paper in words, learning the geometry of the actual motions of the earth, moon, and sun shows that the standard understanding of bodies in space is correct.

In other words, flat earth theory in this instance is completely wrong.

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Video: BUSTED: Eclipse PROVES Science & NASA Wrong



Crow777 talks about the terms "barely total" or "barely partial" eclipses from SkyandTelescope's page: The Lunar Eclipse Wasn’t Total After All?!.

Video: There is No Lunar Eclipse Tetrad and Blood Moon is Ghoulish Nonsense
You can see the arc is wrong in this one too:



These folks need to say it right out, that the earth doesn't have a diameter 3.7 times that of the moon, but that both diameters are the same. Oh, of course, they can't. Flat earth, you know. The pictures are ridiculous.

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Video: BUSTED: Eclipse PROVES Science & NASA Wrong



Crow777 talks about the terms "barely total" or "barely partial" eclipses from SkyandTelescope's page: The Lunar Eclipse Wasn’t Total After All?!.

Video: There is No Lunar Eclipse Tetrad and Blood Moon is Ghoulish Nonsense
You can see the arc is wrong in this one too:

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Ok this is just far blown conspiracy, the earth is obviously a globe.

Learn about light speed, centrifugal forces,  atmospheric light defraction, and gravity.


You guys must have skipped alot of physics classes in high school to come up with this silly idea, but seriously, flat earth doesn't even make the slightest sense since even the organisms are adapted to the moving earth.

Just look at the flat fish that is living in the seafloor under tons of pressure, it is flat because the big pressure of the ocean is making it flat otherwise it cant exist.

If the earth were flat then every organism on it would be flat too, because the enormous weight of the amosphere would make us flat. (but given that its a globe and centrifugal forces make the amoshperes weight not be pushed on us, we are very tall organisms, not to mention the dinosaurs)

What about the tectonic plates? Volcanoes? Geology? And tidal waves?

Think about it?

Why do you think there is an enormous weight of the atmosphere? If you actually want to debate flat-earth, you need to open your mind and be able to throw out a lot of the old concepts, like gravity.

The Earth is officially pear shaped, not a sphere.

Wiki: Figure of the Earth

"The expression figure of the Earth has various meanings in geodesy according to the way it is used and the precision with which the Earth's size and shape is to be defined. While the sphere is a close approximation of the true figure of the Earth and satisfactory for many purposes, geodesists have developed a number of models to represent a closer approximation to the shape of the Earth."

Why do NASA images show a sphere?
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Ok this is just far blown conspiracy, the earth is obviously a globe.

Learn about light speed, centrifugal forces,  atmospheric light defraction, and gravity.


You guys must have skipped alot of physics classes in high school to come up with this silly idea, but seriously, flat earth doesn't even make the slightest sense since even the organisms are adapted to the moving earth.

Just look at the flat fish that is living in the seafloor under tons of pressure, it is flat because the big pressure of the ocean is making it flat otherwise it cant exist.

If the earth were flat then every organism on it would be flat too, because the enormous weight of the amosphere would make us flat. (but given that its a globe and centrifugal forces make the amoshperes weight not be pushed on us, we are very tall organisms, not to mention the dinosaurs)

What about the tectonic plates? Volcanoes? Geology? And tidal waves?

Think about it?
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Can you guys pass me your joint? It must be epic weed your smoking.
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MMH you're talking nonsense. Of course you can have lunar eclipses (blood moons in bible speak) and have perpetual sunlight at the poles, they are two totally separate things (the shadow of the Earth on the Moon, and the tilt of the Earth causing the extended day/night at the poles).

The reason the moon sometimes appears red is because of light scattered by the atmosphere, and by different levels of shadow falling across it. Again, this has nothing to do with my point about daylight hours, you're seriously misunderstanding how this works if you think this is a case of "either/or".

As for your comment about colder light from the moon, you actually believe that moonlight is cold? You think this is why night is colder than day?


The reason night is colder than day is because the sun isn't shining on us. Tongue

Yabut, what's the reason for moonlit nights being colder than when there is no moon?

 Cheesy

My theory (untested) on why light from the Moon is cold is that when an object absorbs and re-emits moonlight the high temporal coherence of the light causes the momentum of the objects particles to change. This compresses the velocity distribution of the particles thereby cooling them.

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