Topic: Why is Turkey attacking the Kurds? Potential WW3? - page 2. (Read 402 times)

Not sure how many sympathizers they have in other countries but some EU countries have already stopped selling them arms when this broke out.  I'm doubtful about the "buffer zone" excuse. The Kurds were already the buffer zone between the Turks and Syrians. They can punt Syrians back across the border even without that.

About that last part, I can see the front-line EU countries like Greece and Italy closing up, which would increase the internal friction within the EU. That's why Brussels want the UK to suffer from Brexit, they don't want the other members getting ideas.

I ain't taking sides so I'm more concerned with Turkey going through the Syrian "border". We know the Kurds are in control of that area and that's why they were in negotiations with Turkey but wouldn't this amount to an actual declaration of war against Syria? From the few bits I've read online, it seems the Syrian army is stepping up and the Kurds has turned over some of the cities they control to the Syrian government.

As Carlton Banks above has noted, this could have never been a problem if the Kurds were given their homeland considering the area they inhabit would form a contiguous area if it was cut off from Syria and Turkey. Unfortunately at this point in time the hatred between all parties involved is enough to perpetuate the cycle, as seen by the post I quoted below.


I can bet they also talk to their kids about the Turks this way.


"Error".  

An hour or two ago there was an article on the New York Times regarding yesterday night's ABC news. Yesterday, for some reason ABC aired a footage from Kentucky Gun Range where they were shooting barrels full of gunpowder (from what I understood) as a kind of celebration and tradition for the gun range, obviously, bullets, heat and gunpowder does not really go well together so there were plenty of explosions (almost) creating mushrooms. ABC aired this footage with the label "Turkey is bombing Syrian towns" (and later changed it to "Slaughter in Syria) especially pointing out the huge mushroom clouds and how Turkey is destroying the civilian territory in Syria.

If you are wondering what the network has said regarding this:

"“We’ve taken down video that aired on ‘World News Tonight Sunday’ and ‘Good Morning America’ this morning that appeared to be from the Syrian border immediately after questions were raised about its accuracy,” the network said in a statement on Monday. “ABC News regrets the error.”

"A representative for ABC News declined to comment on how the mix-up had happened."

Syrians. The shortest answer is Syrians. Since 2016 more than 4.5 million Syrians asked for asylum and came to Turkey. Now, it's been many years since that time but Syrians are still living in Southern Turkey and a a huge burden both economically and logistics. The Syrians are refusing to go back to their lands due to conflict. Therefore Turkey decided to create a buffer zone aka safe zone in Northern Syria so that Syrians can go back to their homes, if they refuse Turkey can just force them and no one will bat an eye, in the end they are going to their own country where it is safe.


Another thing is that it is mostly known that YPG (now renamed to SDF) are the Syrian part of a globally recognised terror organisation PKK. Turkey, using the opportunity Syrians provided are attacking SDF to eliminate SDF/PKK that have been pestering Turkey by killing civilians, teachers, police officers, soldiers in the Southern/Eastern Turkey.

Is it about oil? No. If you have checked the borders since the beginning of the whole ordeal, you will see that most of the oil derricks are located in the Southern Syria, far far away where Turkey wants to create as a buffer zone. Funny thing, most of the oil derricks are located in SDF's zone. Who were US allies and were provided arms, training, vehicles by the US. How do you think these "rebels" actually paid back US?

this is a significant part of the answer. The Versailles treaty after the 1st World War was supposedly designed to stop precisely this problem from happening, but oops, they accidentally designed the treaty in a way that specifically kept the Kurdish problem stored up until a future date. It was not possible to redraw the map in such a way that all these intermingled ethnic groups could be completely segregated, but in the case of the Kurds, it would have been incredibly easy to recognise at least some kind of Kurdish sovereign territory, they likely chose not to in order to exploit the situation in future.

These were very smart people, (Churchill, Clemeceau, Wilson supposedly less so) they would have been aware of all this at the time. The significance of controlling the crude oil market was long since well known, and the Kurdish region was likely chosen as a geo-strategic pivot to keep the Middle East in the right amount of turmoil to let the gangsters continuously assert their authority; keep puppets in charge of regional powers, and use them to control the price of oil and to assure which currency oil is priced in.



The Turkish establishment (particularly those connected to oil and the military in Turkey) are probably orchestrating this whole sequence of events in concert with similarly powerful figures in the US and Russia. It's important to remember that as much as the big powers may attack each other publicly from time to time, their real enemy is the population of the countries fiefdoms they control. The US, Russia, Turkey, China, Japan, Brazil, the EU.... likely the majority of their public disagreements have more to do with using the tension to elicit tribal instincts in regular people than they have to do with any real disagreement. These so-called enemies have more in common with one another than they do with the serfs whose interests they pretend to represent.

Kurds are the largest ethnic minority in Syria. There are large numbers of Kurdish people also in Turkey, Iraq and Iran, but they don't have sovereign country.

I need to say that I sympathise with them because they were leading the fight against Isis. Even the USA allied with them in this fight.
But the situation changed now. Turkey is trying to take control of Syrian lend at the north border of Syria where Kurds live in city of Kobane and other cities. Americans are withdrawing from the region as Turkey is very important member of NATO and it's not clear who to support in this conflict.

My question is, why Turkey decided to make this "buffer zone" on the Turkey-Syria border and attacked the Kurds who have many sympathisers around the world. I think many people will start to boycott Turkey because clearly they are the aggressor in this conflict. This is the beginning of a civil war which could transform into a World War 3 if the US and Russia get involved. WW3 is not very likely as no-one can really afford it at the moment. However even in best case scenario, the Turkey-Kurds conflict will result in deaths of many civilians and even more refugees will flew to Europe which already can't cope with all of them coming from Syria and Africa.