Topic: Why Most of Betting games when You deposit they accepte your money instantly but (Read 2329 times)
July 15, 2015, 05:01:53 PM
I think if you play on site with bitcoins only deposits will have this option with instantly withdrawals.
July 15, 2015, 03:36:52 AM
So that your money is reflected instantly and you can play without any delay. But at time of withdraw is different story. They have to protect themself against double spends and txn without a fee and other suspicious txns.
July 15, 2015, 03:32:09 AM
in this case you should change your gambling site and choose another one , but before you invest big time, you should try them and also read the rules for deposit / withdrawals so that you don't get into trouble.
but asking for any information while they are accepting bitcoin (not fiat) is just wrong and i personally would simply stay away from those sites.
but asking for any information while they are accepting bitcoin (not fiat) is just wrong and i personally would simply stay away from those sites.
July 15, 2015, 03:26:00 AM
I completely agree with this . I myself have had the issue , with even sites like Neteller freezing my account after I tried the withdrawal or deposited a large amount . They are never seen blocking before a deposit, but right after one they do it.
Some sites claim that its for your own good and for them to stay in line with the legalities, but thats pretty much a BS excuse for it . I haven't ever had the problem with bitcoin gambling sites though , so thats another reason they are much better than Fiat which requires ID and all.
Some sites claim that its for your own good and for them to stay in line with the legalities, but thats pretty much a BS excuse for it . I haven't ever had the problem with bitcoin gambling sites though , so thats another reason they are much better than Fiat which requires ID and all.
It's to prevent money laundering. In order to comply with their licenses, gambling sites and payment processors are required to get KYC data from you as soon as you go over certain withdrawal thresholds - if they don't they risk losing those licenses, costing them tens of thousands of dollars (as well as risking prosecutions). Bitcoin gambling sites don't need to do it because for the most part they aren't licensed, and those that are are probably licensed in jurisdictions where bitcoin isn't subject to money laundering laws.
July 15, 2015, 02:23:27 AM
This is to avoid the double spending attack. It is a measure against it and it will always be due to the design of the bitcoin network,
July 15, 2015, 02:15:40 AM
I completely agree with this . I myself have had the issue , with even sites like Neteller freezing my account after I tried the withdrawal or deposited a large amount . They are never seen blocking before a deposit, but right after one they do it.
Some sites claim that its for your own good and for them to stay in line with the legalities, but thats pretty much a BS excuse for it . I haven't ever had the problem with bitcoin gambling sites though , so thats another reason they are much better than Fiat which requires ID and all.
Some sites claim that its for your own good and for them to stay in line with the legalities, but thats pretty much a BS excuse for it . I haven't ever had the problem with bitcoin gambling sites though , so thats another reason they are much better than Fiat which requires ID and all.
July 14, 2015, 05:23:22 PM
It is simple, just make that booker position was yours...
Would you have any question mostly beside said "thx alot or its for me?" if someone out there give you some money??
But absolutely you need asking a few question or need some info about money that you will/want to give it on others people, even if you give that money for charity you need info about what charityor who manage that charity event..
Thats all my oppinion.
Would you have any question mostly beside said "thx alot or its for me?" if someone out there give you some money??
But absolutely you need asking a few question or need some info about money that you will/want to give it on others people, even if you give that money for charity you need info about what charityor who manage that charity event..
Thats all my oppinion.
July 14, 2015, 05:19:26 AM
most of gambling site allow instant withdaw, you may change another site to try.
July 14, 2015, 04:58:57 AM
hi guys
im just wondering Why Most of Betting games when You deposit they accepte your money instantly but when you try to withdrawl
they are like : No! he cant withdrawl maybe he is a cheater , or they are like: Holy shit he won , We must ask him for utility bill and passport and a phone call .!!
Why they dont ask for anything when You give them money ?
They ask and they hate You ONLY when u win
Fucking bastards they say its for security reason
ok than why not Deposits ? or money is good right ? 
im just wondering Why Most of Betting games when You deposit they accepte your money instantly but when you try to withdrawl
they are like : No! he cant withdrawl maybe he is a cheater , or they are like: Holy shit he won , We must ask him for utility bill and passport and a phone call .!!
Why they dont ask for anything when You give them money ?
They ask and they hate You ONLY when u win
Fucking bastards they say its for security reason
ok than why not Deposits ? or money is good right ? Wheres my amazon code u fukkin scammer!! This guy took $180 from me..no codes, no messages, no updates. Fuck you u loser. I hope ur kids are deformed and both uur parents die with a dick in their mouths.
everyone check his Trust and reference the thread where I posted. STAY AWAY from this pussy.
I'm sorry for you mate , but everyone knows this guy
it's your fault when you make a deal with a negative trusted person , he was trying a lot before to scam
he didn't even change his account , and people still thinking about making a deal with him
July 13, 2015, 11:10:44 PM
hi guys
im just wondering Why Most of Betting games when You deposit they accepte your money instantly but when you try to withdrawl
they are like : No! he cant withdrawl maybe he is a cheater , or they are like: Holy shit he won , We must ask him for utility bill and passport and a phone call .!!
Why they dont ask for anything when You give them money ?
They ask and they hate You ONLY when u win
Fucking bastards they say its for security reason ok than why not Deposits ? or money is good right ?
im just wondering Why Most of Betting games when You deposit they accepte your money instantly but when you try to withdrawl
they are like : No! he cant withdrawl maybe he is a cheater , or they are like: Holy shit he won , We must ask him for utility bill and passport and a phone call .!!
Why they dont ask for anything when You give them money ?
They ask and they hate You ONLY when u win
Fucking bastards they say its for security reason
ok than why not Deposits ? or money is good right ? Wheres my amazon code u fukkin scammer!! This guy took $180 from me..no codes, no messages, no updates. Fuck you u loser. I hope ur kids are deformed and both uur parents die with a dick in their mouths.
everyone check his Trust and reference the thread where I posted. STAY AWAY from this pussy.
July 13, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Its simple.
Its to prevent a double spend attack, You could simply send money and withdraw it right away. and then the confirmation fails.
Its to prevent a double spend attack, You could simply send money and withdraw it right away. and then the confirmation fails.
i see..... but you are wrong , you know why ? cause when you deposit they ask you FIRST to wait for confirmations than u can play , so think again
when you say instantly in the thread title it means 0 confirmation needed, if it needs atleast 1 confirmation then the deposit isn't instant like what you said
July 13, 2015, 08:53:36 PM
Every Gambling site have their own set of rules and it is always advised to read them prior to depositing and betting at a site. It is also good practice to try a site out with smaller deposits and withdrawals and see how they handle those, if you're satisfied with their management only then play with bigger funds else find a different casino.
It also happens that even the best of the sites sometime experience bugs, glitches etc. that might slow their workings and it might affect their withdrawals too but BTC Gambling is mostly anonymous and if a site asks you to provide your credentials just don't play there.
It also happens that even the best of the sites sometime experience bugs, glitches etc. that might slow their workings and it might affect their withdrawals too but BTC Gambling is mostly anonymous and if a site asks you to provide your credentials just don't play there.
July 13, 2015, 06:06:53 AM
Bitcoin betting site not ask for id or passport.
Directbet or nitrogen have instant withdraw.
When you deposit,you need to wait for 1 confirmation
Directbet or nitrogen have instant withdraw.
When you deposit,you need to wait for 1 confirmation
exactly, casinos either wait a confirmation to credit or to allow for withdrawals, i have no clue what the op is talking about.
ok here is a clue https://satoshibet.com
Go play there and see if they will send ur money instantly like deposit
July 13, 2015, 05:55:05 AM
Simply when you want to deposit they will have no idea if u are a cheater or not and it's not instant the transaction needs to be confirmed
but when you want to withdraw they need to check your recent activity in order to know if you have cheated or not
but some sites take a ridiculous time to process the withdrawals , and some sites have instant withdrawal btw
but when you want to withdraw they need to check your recent activity in order to know if you have cheated or not
but some sites take a ridiculous time to process the withdrawals , and some sites have instant withdrawal btw
July 13, 2015, 05:46:24 AM
Its simple.
Its to prevent a double spend attack, You could simply send money and withdraw it right away. and then the confirmation fails.
Its to prevent a double spend attack, You could simply send money and withdraw it right away. and then the confirmation fails.
This guy is correct.
July 13, 2015, 05:39:07 AM
I assume OP is talking about sites where you create an account, deposit to that account, then start betting (Cloudbet, Anonibet, Bitcasino, etc) not dice sites and sites like Directbet and Nitrogen where you don't need to make an account - generally on these sites (Cloudbet etc) you will be able to start betting as soon as you've made your deposit, with no confirmations required, but won't let you withdraw without three confirmations.
The reason is that when you make a deposit there's no double spend risk to the site - you can start playing straight away, and even if you have double-spent your coins they don't lose anything (the worst that can happen for them is that you lose your entire balance to them, but then it turns out your balance wasn't legitimate to begin with so they don't actually make any BTC from you). However, if they allow you to withdraw some of your balance, all of your balance, or your balance and your winnings, and then they find out that you double-spent your coins, they'll have paid you out without ever receiving anything from you in the first place. By waiting for confirmations before allowing you to withdraw, they're ensuring that your deposit was legit.
TLDR: There's no risk to a site in accepting a deposit and letting you play straight away, but if they allow you to withdraw before your deposit has been confirmed they expose themselves to people double-spending.
EDIT: I think I misunderstood.. is OP asking about non-bitcoin sites? If so, then the answer is pretty much the same. If you bet and lose all your money then there's not risk to the site, but if you try to withdraw then there's a risk that you're actually laundering money - that's when the KYC stuff comes into play (ID, bank statement, utility bill, etc), it's part of their licensing requirements in order to stop money laundering.
The reason is that when you make a deposit there's no double spend risk to the site - you can start playing straight away, and even if you have double-spent your coins they don't lose anything (the worst that can happen for them is that you lose your entire balance to them, but then it turns out your balance wasn't legitimate to begin with so they don't actually make any BTC from you). However, if they allow you to withdraw some of your balance, all of your balance, or your balance and your winnings, and then they find out that you double-spent your coins, they'll have paid you out without ever receiving anything from you in the first place. By waiting for confirmations before allowing you to withdraw, they're ensuring that your deposit was legit.
TLDR: There's no risk to a site in accepting a deposit and letting you play straight away, but if they allow you to withdraw before your deposit has been confirmed they expose themselves to people double-spending.
EDIT: I think I misunderstood.. is OP asking about non-bitcoin sites? If so, then the answer is pretty much the same. If you bet and lose all your money then there's not risk to the site, but if you try to withdraw then there's a risk that you're actually laundering money - that's when the KYC stuff comes into play (ID, bank statement, utility bill, etc), it's part of their licensing requirements in order to stop money laundering.
July 13, 2015, 05:23:55 AM
Just change your gambling website.
There is a big variety of gambling sites out there.
Most of them offer easy bitcoin withdrawals.
There is a big variety of gambling sites out there.
Most of them offer easy bitcoin withdrawals.
July 13, 2015, 05:07:14 AM
All italian sport betting in euro currency, later you have send all document (id, passport, electric bill, ecc) pay later 2-5 week for all type of deposit.
The crypto betting pay later fer confirm
The crypto betting pay later fer confirm
July 13, 2015, 04:52:01 AM
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July 13, 2015, 04:08:09 AM
Bitcoin betting site not ask for id or passport.
Directbet or nitrogen have instant withdraw.
When you deposit,you need to wait for 1 confirmation
Directbet or nitrogen have instant withdraw.
When you deposit,you need to wait for 1 confirmation
exactly, casinos either wait a confirmation to credit or to allow for withdrawals, i have no clue what the op is talking about.
ok here is a clue https://satoshibet.com
Go play there and see if they will send ur money instantly like deposit
no thanks, i have my gambling preferences, and they tend to stay on sportsbooks. nitrogensports mostly.
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