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Quote from: mariahh on June 12, 2017, 08:19:10 AM

I agree.It's not normal people to commit terrorism cause of religions.Jihad is an Arabic word which literally means striving and struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim.The "holy war" is just an excuse from perverse people.

What about the verses in Quran, which demands that believers should wage "Jihad" against the non-Muslims? The original meaning of that word may be "to struggle", but in Quran the meaning is to wage war against the non-Muslims. And even more, Quran promises 72 virgins to anyone who gets martyred while waging Jihad against the infidels.

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For me it doesn't appear to be that terrorist are categorized by religion and their beliefs. It is just that most of them are muslims that is why some other terrorist with different religions are just covered, which is when you count them all more people are from the muslim, but it doesnt mean all of them. Some terrorist are even hiding their faces behind the government and can even consider as snakes in the community , we may not know but some of them are government officials which are using the image of the government just to be in their positions or to avoid or be protected against the law.

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Quote from: malikusama on June 08, 2017, 01:34:26 PM

This is wrong perception, terrorist don't have any religion. Why I am saying this because no religion allows you to kill innocent people. There were many terrorist communities in the past claiming themselves Christians but they doesn't represent Christians same as here these groups doesn't represent Islam. Why blaming a particular religion due to the sick mentality of a group of people.

I agree.It's not normal people to commit terrorism cause of religions.Jihad is an Arabic word which literally means striving and struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim.The "holy war" is just an excuse from perverse people.

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Quote from: pat4cryptoreal on June 12, 2017, 07:24:51 AM

90% of terrorist are being sponsor by some top politicians to destabilize the country. It is not a matter of religion.

Wrong. Sponsors of terrorism may not believe in God, but those to whom they give assignments believers. Artists believe that doing the right thing and always find an excuse for their actions in religion. So Islam is responsible for terrorism.

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90% of terrorist are being sponsor by some top politicians to destabilize the country. It is not a matter of religion.

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Quote from: surahmat1223 on June 12, 2017, 06:35:39 AM

I don't think so, muslim is a good religion and every religion is teaching people about a good thing not a bad thing, it just depends on the individual. In this world only divided into two types of human beings are good people or bad people.

the religion itself doesn't say that killing someone is good its the individual or the groups of people who believes that they have been treated
not fairly that's why they start to this act and its not only those muslim who made terrorist attacks other factors which regarding to political
issue also did some attacks.

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Quote from: freebutcaged on June 10, 2017, 02:00:55 PM

You are mistaking a few million vahhabies and salafies which are mercenaries, hire to kill for girls and money, or simply out of fear for their

Families, they are being brainwashed for 2 years before releasing them in to the field for action. when you say Muslims you don't know who

Are Muslims, only the ones following the prophet and his grandchildren are true Muslims and the rest are the remaining generations of Omar

And other so called Caliphates, Omar was the one who killed Prophet's daughter and her husband "Ali" buried her in the dark in an unknown place

So they would never find her grave, imagine such people who would have dared to disrespect their own prophet's daughter's grave after death

They are the same people killing and terrorizing.

Not that I would disagree with your premise - majority of muslims are decent people, but few million of violent mercs is a lot for world to digest. A lot Wink

We all know, that wahabism is exported by Saudi Arabia (where it is also state ideology), which also takes care about Mecca, yet we do not see billion of muslims marching on heretics of Saudi Arabia for disgracing the prophet like that.

Quote from: Mometaskers on June 12, 2017, 06:13:38 AM

There's no doubt that there are other factors other than Islam. For example the large proportion of adolescent males in Muslim countries definitely means more people to recruit and higher younger population in the past has been associated with wars. The oppressive societies they live in also factors as well.

But religion also play a large part of this. Madrasas are funded by Islamist groups associated with ruling families in the Arabian Peninsula and many of these have been found to inculcate disrespect for kuffars in children. The religion itself is easy to bend to their purpose because of the way it is structured. And different from Christianity where the Bible is considered the utmost authority, the Koran have to be supplemented with other writings like the hadiths, which further complicate things.

I agree with pretty much everything, that you have said.

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I don't think so, muslim is a good religion and every religion is teaching people about a good thing not a bad thing, it just depends on the individual. In this world only divided into two types of human beings are good people or bad people.

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There's no doubt that there are other factors other than Islam. For example the large proportion of adolescent males in Muslim countries definitely means more people to recruit and higher younger population in the past has been associated with wars. The oppressive societies they live in also factors as well.

But religion also play a large part of this. Madrasas are funded by Islamist groups associated with ruling families in the Arabian Peninsula and many of these have been found to inculcate disrespect for kuffars in children. The religion itself is easy to bend to their purpose because of the way it is structured. And different from Christianity where the Bible is considered the utmost authority, the Koran have to be supplemented with other writings like the hadiths, which further complicate things.

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It's not that most are Muslim, it's a combination of two things. One is that the majority of the attacks that we hear about are committed by people who are Muslim, and the fact that the stereotype of Muslims being terrorists has already entered the world so people are already thinking they are terrorists before something like this even hits the news.

I also am one to think that people who are terrorists aren't of any religion and manipulate the writings of the one that they say they're in for the betterment of their selves and their horrid cause.

So, moving to the subject at hand. Most terrorists aren't Muslims, there are many terrorists of other things but we may just not label them terrorists.

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Quote from: malikusama on June 08, 2017, 01:34:26 PM

This is wrong perception, terrorist don't have any religion. Why I am saying this because no religion allows you to kill innocent people. There were many terrorist communities in the past claiming themselves Christians but they doesn't represent Christians same as here these groups doesn't represent Islam. Why blaming a particular religion due to the sick mentality of a group of people.

My friend, this is not a blaming game. I understand, this view seems divisive and sows hatred more than peace and unity, but the perception of tikalbong here seems to be legitimate. And I think we have to address it head on. That can easily be observed nowadays, right? Well, that's how the cookie crumbles.

I, too, am a believer that no religion should be blamed for the actions of a few members who went astray. But, as I've already posted somewhere, I also ask, why do almost all terrorists today shout the same allahu akbar in doing what they like best--destruction?

Exactly. Instead of believing something warm and fuzzy, look around and actually understand what's happening.

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Quote from: tikalbong on June 08, 2017, 03:01:18 AM

I just noticed and realized that I have never heard of a certain Christian terrorist, all I hear is that when a terrorist is in the news, he/she is a Muslim. I am not saying that Muslims are terrorist, so don't get me wrong.

I'm a Christian and I don't believe that only Muslim commits terrorism. For me, terrorism is an act of terror that might destroy facilities and kill people. Any actions that leads to give fear and destroy the orderliness of a community is an act of terrorism. We just singled out Muslim people but the fact is there are also Christian who committed crime that gives fear, destroy the orderliness of a community that leads to destruction of facilities and life of people. I guess, those Christian who committed crime such as trading illegal drugs, robbing banks and malls, human trafficking, kidnapping, car napping, and the like can be considered as terrorist. So please stop singling out the Muslim people to be the only terrorist in the world. Let us all be fair on treating all religions.

I agree with you.
Terrorists don't have their own religion, race, nationality...
They use some religious ideas and doctrines for their own purpose and manipulate their members.
It's fact that Muslims are very dedicated to their religion, praying a few times during day, fasting etc.
Religion is very important to them.
It's sad that terrorists using such devotion for their own selfish purpose, to kill others, instead of serving others.
It's so easy to manipulate others, brainwash them in the name of religion.
So sad.

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Quote from: malikusama on June 08, 2017, 01:34:26 PM

This is wrong perception, terrorist don't have any religion. Why I am saying this because no religion allows you to kill innocent people. There were many terrorist communities in the past claiming themselves Christians but they doesn't represent Christians same as here these groups doesn't represent Islam. Why blaming a particular religion due to the sick mentality of a group of people.

My friend, this is not a blaming game. I understand, this view seems divisive and sows hatred more than peace and unity, but the perception of tikalbong here seems to be legitimate. And I think we have to address it head on. That can easily be observed nowadays, right? Well, that's how the cookie crumbles.

I, too, am a believer that no religion should be blamed for the actions of a few members who went astray. But, as I've already posted somewhere, I also ask, why do almost all terrorists today shout the same allahu akbar in doing what they like best--destruction?

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Misunderstand if you say that terrorists are mostly Muslims, because Muslims can not possibly be terrorists, they are in the name of religion as a shield for their own purposes, not for the sake of religion

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Quote from: tikalbong on June 08, 2017, 03:01:18 AM

I just noticed and realized that I have never heard of a certain Christian terrorist, all I hear is that when a terrorist is in the news, he/she is a Muslim. I am not saying that Muslims are terrorist, so don't get me wrong.

It's wrong. There was Christian terrorist organizations like IRA(Irish), ETA (Basque) and ASALA(armenian). ASALA assassinated Turkish diplomats in Europe and US and organized bomb attacks on Turkish embassies and some place in Turkey for 12 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_by_ASALA . Terror was not born in 11/9.

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Quote from: tikalbong on June 08, 2017, 03:01:18 AM

I just noticed and realized that I have never heard of a certain Christian terrorist, all I hear is that when a terrorist is in the news, he/she is a Muslim. I am not saying that Muslims are terrorist, so don't get me wrong.

I'm a Christian and I don't believe that only Muslim commits terrorism. For me, terrorism is an act of terror that might destroy facilities and kill people. Any actions that leads to give fear and destroy the orderliness of a community is an act of terrorism. We just singled out Muslim people but the fact is there are also Christian who committed crime that gives fear, destroy the orderliness of a community that leads to destruction of facilities and life of people. I guess, those Christian who committed crime such as trading illegal drugs, robbing banks and malls, human trafficking, kidnapping, car napping, and the like can be considered as terrorist. So please stop singling out the Muslim people to be the only terrorist in the world. Let us all be fair on treating all religions.

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Quote from: WallSinger on June 10, 2017, 02:17:15 PM

unfortunately I see the same things in my country too... I know many muslim, they want always change our lifestyle. I don't think that christians make the same, this is the real difference

So they are not ready to assimilate in to the native culture. And on the other hand, they want the natives to assimilate in to the Muslim culture. If that is the case, then you guys are the ones to blame. Why did you allowed the immigration of such people?

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Quote from: freebutcaged on June 10, 2017, 02:00:55 PM

You are mistaking a few million vahhabies and salafies which are mercenaries, hire to kill for girls and money, or simply out of fear for their

Families, they are being brainwashed for 2 years before releasing them in to the field for action. when you say Muslims you don't know who

Are Muslims, only the ones following the prophet and his grandchildren are true Muslims and the rest are the remaining generations of Omar

And other so called Caliphates, Omar was the one who killed Prophet's daughter and her husband "Ali" buried her in the dark in an unknown place

So they would never find her grave, imagine such people who would have dared to disrespect their own prophet's daughter's grave after death

They are the same people killing and terrorizing.

Yet another Muslim would tell the world that his version of Islam is the True and Correct one, and those other versions of Islam are not.

Using the media channel opened up by his terrorists of Islam to preach, of course. Because otherwise nobody in the world would want to hear his pretentious chatter.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2017, 02:13:22 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on June 09, 2017, 12:57:33 PM

Christians never tried to take over the world using terror, which is what Islam has tried in the past and is trying again now.

Christians and people from other religions have used war as a means to spread their religion in the past. But that was hundreds of years ago. Now they have realized that such tactics are incompatible with the modern humanitarian values. But the Muslims are still living in the middle-age mentality. They are not ready to reform their beliefs.

I think Richard Dawkins has pointed that out quite frankly before, that Islam seem to be the only major religion that has not yet undergone "reformation". With the way things are going now, I think it's unlikely to happen even within a century from now.

They just didn't had the same experiences as Western Europeans. No Black Death forcing them to change their social structure and go beyond tribalism. No Protestant Reformation basically challenging the power of the established religious hierarchy and paving the way to secularization. No Industrial Revolution sparking a hunger for innovation. No Age of Exploration suddenly confronting them with various beliefs encountered in the different places they tried to settle. Etc.

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Quote from: Spendulus on June 09, 2017, 12:57:33 PM

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Quote from: Xester on June 09, 2017, 12:00:45 PM

That is what I also noticed. Most of the terrorist group or almost all of them were muslim. But I do not know if they are genuine Muslim. Because the Muslim I know were good people. Maybe they just aligning themselves to Muslim so they could do some of their bad intentions without having a guilt. But Christians also did terror things without even knowing that it is an act of terror.

People always distance themselves from people like them that they think are ruining their reputation. Heck even parents tell their spouses to go "talk with YOUR son/daughter".

Breivik is not a true Christian because he killed children, Muslim terrorists are not true Muslims because they attacked kids and women, etc. It's called the No True Scotsman fallacy, and it's preventing people from actually discussing what the hell is wrong with Islam or the way it is being taught now.

Christians never tried to take over the world using terror, which is what Islam has tried in the past and is trying again now.

Well, some colonialists (at least the Spanish and Portuguese) saw it as their mission to propagate the faith. Not so much for the British and the Dutch.

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