Why newbie may find it difficult to rank up in this forum

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on September 07, 2023, 03:27:09 AM

The main reason why newbies are here. They're in for the money, and not for the knowledge.

I stressed this on my previous post, disclaiming the motives of 'em pegans to NOT really being Epistemophilic - but, likely pegans(wolves)as I call them, tailored in sheep skins - just trolling the whole place to see if they could get 'em few weekly bucks...yeahh?? Cus whoever introduced them might have also given them a tip to what they should focus on - NOT THE FORUM'S INTEREST whatsoever,...but Thiers totally. I guess they'd also believe that anything could be done to rank up, which is this gruesomeness we experience today; spamming, blabbing pointlessly, revisiting topics on different threads unnecessarily etc... I sure hope these practices ain't evolving anytime soon ... cause, WTF??!

Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on September 07, 2023, 04:15:30 AM

I agree with you. I will tell you about myself. Likewise, I also saw a video on YouTube and accidentally stumbled upon this forum. I was so excited about seeing the bounty reports and also seeing the "beautiful" videos on YouTube that I was hoping to get some money there as well.

you've got a good reputation already; save yourself the stress

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on September 07, 2023, 02:33:25 AM

That is it there, most of the members that take ranking up too serious are those that are actually in pursuit of getting into campaigns and these are people that easily get caught up breaking rules.

There are newbies that I would say were here just to get a certain information related to bitcoin and stuffs like that and once they do they just leave off or even come by to read on some things that is why you see accounts of a two year still at newbie rank. Don’t see them as lazy but as people that had different view coming here and. they got it.

As for hunters it is clearly clear what they are here for and as such I wouldn’t blame them either, as you are here for knowledge (which I doubt from your post history), they are here for bounties and luckily the forum provides space for everyone. The only thing is keep to the rules

Being here for bounties is never wrong and I believe a lot of us here are certainly doing that. But the problem is when we are busy joining bounties that we end up ignoring about consistent learning in the forum. By learning I mean that we should still be equipped with knowledge and even skills at a constant basis, so we need not to stop researching and studying because that’s the only we can then make some quality posts and make them valuable for other’s learnings as well.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

Imagine an account opened for more than 2 year that still exist as a newbie..

You made some good points about why Newbie does not rank up on the forum and
You explained it nicely but I would like to add some points of mine for better understatement. The newbie needs to be helpful to others and share information that helps the others but also helps them to rank up. They need to be patient because success does not immediately come, newbies are discouraged and they leave the forum. They also need to be active and follow the rules of the forum. The more you actively post and follow the rules the more chances you to have rank up. the newbie has not to be posted in every thread but to be relevant, that match your interest and expertise. If the newbie focuses on the points you share and as well as I mentioned they definitely grow their rank.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉They are in the forum for bounty only

yes its me Roll Eyes

i come here for money lol because my friend makes a lot of money from here, this is the reason I came here, but it seems like there is something he is still hiding from me from this frum. he said join bitcointalk and make money, later when your account is big, people will need you for their jobs.

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It's nobody's fault that a user can remain a newbie for about eight months to one year after creating their account; if such happens, then the reason is quite clear: either the person is not learning anything at all but rather just in for bounty and contest participation. There is no way someone can be so active on the forum and contribute positively that they would not rank up, even if not so fast. As an active user, you should be able to earn 10 in a month, and even at that point, you can still get help from some merit-based source.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

Day by day, new members keep registering everyday. Only few of this member find it easy to rank up. Imagine an account opened for more than 2 year that still exist as a newbie. These are some of the reasons I observed why some of these people may find it difficult to rank up:

All the points you highlighted in your post are all valid and could be the reason for non ranking up of low ranked members especially newbies in the forum. I think we have about millions of newbies account in the forum, more than 50% of the total forum members that are still newbies and haven’t ranked up to the next rank yet.

Everyone joins this forum for a reason and if the reasons they are joining the forum is being meant, every other thing won’t matter to them again. As you said that some come for bounties, if that’s their major reason you can’t persuade them to rank up their accounts to get better offer in signature campaigns. They might have valuable informations that could help forum members but if they are here for other reasons that is where their focus will be which I don’t blame them for.

The main thing is to keep the forum clean out of spam, scams and anything illegal. Making sure the rules and regulations guiding the forum are being followed by every member. If that is achievable, the forum will be a better place for all of us.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉They are in the forum for bounty only

Bounty is not a bad thing, everyone came to this forum for different purposes. Some came to;
Learn,
Do business,
Render services,
Solve technical problems,
Signature campaigns,
Bounty.
Anyone that came for bounty should continue with bounty because it is also part of this forum.

Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉Not ready to learn

It is not everyone that learns good. They might be willing to learn but unable to. But in order to earn you need to learn.

Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉To busy to read

Same as above. When you read many things you learn.

Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉Staying away from the rules and regulations of the forum

The forum does not have hard rules. Any honest person and a moderated person can be in this forum for years without knowing the rules and still be successful.

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People's goals on these forums vary, depending on how they found out about these forums. If they only know this forum to make money from bounties, they will focus on bounties without wanting to know more about the forum, so it's no wonder if we look at the average bounty players, they are average beginners.

However, if they first get to know this forum as a place to seek knowledge, information and insight that can ultimately make money, I think they will care about the quality of the posts because all beginners really want to increase their account ranking. Indeed, people's ability levels vary, so this affects a person's ranking speed. The most important thing is to maintain the quality of your posts, you have to be confident and keep reading then the goals you want to achieve will be achieved. It may seem difficult, but if you do it wholeheartedly it will look easy.

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Maybe their motivation is not to rank up, they prefer to become Bounty Hunters who pursue the small amount of payment offered there. I'm not surprised why they have difficulty climbing the rankings, because their goal in joining the forum is not to gain knowledge or learn to adapt to senior members who are involved in several important discussions. Their daily life is more preoccupied with working on several Bounty reports and proof of authentication in several bounties, their motivation is just to get money, not to focus on rank up, that's why it's hard to get merit that can bring them closer to a new rank.

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Nowadays there are so many newbies can rank up easily than few years ago, where the number of merit sources increased, merit distribution tend to increase due to no merit expiration, decaying or de-merit, there are few merit sources volunteering reviews people who send application to them etc.

If current newbie find it difficult to rank up, you aka @OP will not able to earn 57 merits, right?

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉They are in the forum for bounty only
Bounty gives little money when compared to money made from signatures after been rank up. Even some high ranked members in the forum believe bounty is a waste of time as some pay little money or not even pay at all. Believing in bounty alone may not give you time to work on how to build your profile in the forum.

I have never had any business to do with the bounty section so to say but I think any member who's only interested in making money as the main reason for registering in the forum will find it difficult to grow because such person will find it difficult to stay when the money isn't coming unless the person is rendering some services as a newbie which is not possible because people here will need to trust you before entrusting their brand and money into your hands. I don't know what and how much money they make on the bounty hunting but I think even those in the signature campaigns started off with building their accounts which requires a lot of time, knowledge and energy so they deserve the pay as a reward for the services they render. I think every bounty member who's there is either not ready to learn but to earn in an easy way.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

Only few of this member find it easy to rank up.

I believe a person’s reason for joining the forum will determine whether they do well or fail. Merits are easy to get when you’re a newbie, older members feel the need to support the account and they reward posts which are arguably average quality merits just to encourage newcomers. Not to mention the merit threads created to help users rank up.

Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

Imagine an account opened for more than 2 year that still exist as a newbie. These are some of the reasons I observed why some of these people may find it difficult to rank up

As funny as this sounds, I know there are many of these accounts in the forum and you can find them posting in altcoin discussion. One of the reason for this is that most of these bounty accounts are operated by one person or are a group. They have zero interest in the community and the forum, money is their only motivation for being here.

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I think this depends on the seriousness and purpose of the account creation. Some people create an account in Bitcointalk to shill something, create a scam accusation, interact with the forum and to earn money. I believe those who create an account with the purpose of earning money are the one who strive for rank-up since there is more reward in ranking up, while other reasons do not need an account to rank up since it serves its purpose already even though it stays in newbie accounts.

The reason these newbies (except those who joined for social media bounty) are not ranking up is that they are not aiming to gain higher ranks because if they do, they could have chased merit the moment they created the account.

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Quote from: imamusma on September 07, 2023, 03:03:14 PM

The average newbie really wants to rank up, while some others don't care at all about this system. Especially bounty hunters who only use their accounts to post social media report links, these are some examples of people who don't care about the system.

Accounts that really care about improving their knowledge and skills will easily get ranked. People will get quality posts with achievements that will eventually help them move up in the rankings. Some say it's difficult, while others don't seem to complain. I admit, everyone has different levels of difficulty in maintaining the quality of their posts, which will affect the speed of rank up.

I definitely agree with you there and I know that their post history are full of reports that's why I said that the ones who wants to rank up are the ones who want to join signature campaigns and the others who doesn't care are the ones you mentioned where they didn't care about it because they only use their account for weekly reports which means they didn't join the signature campaign but another campaign that requires followers or subscribers or different requirements like making an article about the campaign that they have joined.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

Day by day, new members keep registering everyday. Only few of this member find it easy to rank up. Imagine an account opened for more than 2 year that still exist as a newbie. These are some of the reasons I observed why some of these people may find it difficult to rank up:

By the activity displayed on their profile, you will know those accounts, the ones that want to build there accounts and the ones that are here to make some cents, most of the time they are usually full of links and proof of Authy, nothing more you will see under these accounts, no discussion and even if they do, they are more of spammed text or plagiarized contents than passing a important message other people in the forum.

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👉👉They are in the forum for bounty only
Bounty gives little money when compared to money made from signatures after been rank up. Even some high ranked members in the forum believe bounty is a waste of time as some pay little money or not even pay at all. Believing in bounty alone may not give you time to work on how to build your profile in the forum.

👉👉Not ready to learn
Learning is a process, the more you learn, the more you know. The more you know, the more you can assist others. The more you assist others with your post, the more you rank up your profile.

👉👉To busy to read
Reading is very important in learning process. Most of this people find it difficult to read important post that could help them rank up. All they put their efforts on is bounty. Some don't even read the rules of the bounty they are joining, they just join as they see it. These group of people are seen to later ask questions which has already be post on bounty thread from bounty manager in the bounty telegram group. Reading good post will help you in the following ways:

Sometimes, it's the message they hear from outside and what they processed is what they show in the forum, bounty is what some of them hear or discussed by their friends and when they joined the forum, that is their next step to follow, they follow every bounty the manager post without thinking twice, they don't care if the project is real, scam or fake or maybe they will even pay them at the end of the work.

Everything revolved about the message they get, that is why they don't bother to read, some don't even know anything about signature even when the forum signature are not guranteed as well, its only a way to earned few buck for your contribution to the forum and also wearing their code on your profile I think.

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One thing I realized that becomes a problem for a newbie in the forum is that some are not willing to learn as OP has started and also some of the newbies don't have something to offer Plus the fact that some are not being patient enough and to try to improve which even leads most of them quilting or abandoning their accounts.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on September 07, 2023, 02:26:49 PM

Not all newbies wanted to rank up since others are only here to gain knowledge while some are here to join bounties.

The average newbie really wants to rank up, while some others don't care at all about this system. Especially bounty hunters who only use their accounts to post social media report links, these are some examples of people who don't care about the system.

Accounts that really care about improving their knowledge and skills will easily get ranked. People will get quality posts with achievements that will eventually help them move up in the rankings. Some say it's difficult, while others don't seem to complain. I admit, everyone has different levels of difficulty in maintaining the quality of their posts, which will affect the speed of rank up.

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Well you have point but I will point out this, it is difficult to get merited this days because what they would have had to offer has been offered many years back and most time when such topic comes up, they are warned not to spam or directed to such post from years back. Many times, most newbie has been directed to use the search bar to find answers to some issues or to find out about a topic to avoid repetition. Some of the newbie now find it impossible to contribute.

Apart from this, many newbie are merit thirsty and as a result end up with annoying post or reply. Well, my candid advice is that , newbie should take life easy and be more committed as their new discoveries and new topics to discuss that can be of help to the forum members.

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Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉Not ready to learn

Quote from: odunybiz on September 07, 2023, 02:22:42 AM

👉👉To busy to read

These are the two main points why some members never rank up in the forum. It's true that it is not easy to make forum-standard posts at the beginning of a member's journey. But consistency and patience to do a lot of reading increase their post standard over time. Many of them came here with a mindset to earn money by doing campaigns when very few try to learn from their mistakes and follow higher-ranking members.

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In the world we are today, people are looking for a bigger opportunity that will make them famous in society. Even on the forum (bitcointalk.org) there are people who are in every discussion, even places where they are not supposed to make comments. They are making comments just because they want to be known in the forum. Let me use myself as an example. While I was still a newbie and a member before I made any comments on any thread, I took my time to check if any of my rank members had already made a comment. Sometimes I ended up leaving the thread without even making a comment. Why did I do what I was doing? Just because I want to learn from those who are above me, and I was still learning new things even till now am still a learner, the forum can be so easy for you when you have already known your place in the forum, just do what is right and create your quality post and don't expect merit's because some post that you are expecting merits from sometimes not get merited but those post that you are not expecting merits get merited.

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