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legendary
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January 09, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
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I'd say about 80% of HODLers are waiting for that fast jump upwards and they want to be that one person to sell at the top. When everyone is waiting to do that same thing, the price will not go super high.

The problem here is, nobody actually knows what new ATH will be, so when the crash will start (if a pump ever happens soon), it will not be easy to get out of the game, and many will lose...

That's why people will think they are clever and get out at the first sign of the price going down. Most bubbles had 2 or 3 down days on the way up. The first down day will be the end of the bubble and people will think they got out at the top. Everyone will be itching to be the first to get out, the one who pops the bubble leaving everyone else holding the bag.
legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!

I'd say about 80% of HODLers are waiting for that fast jump upwards and they want to be that one person to sell at the top. When everyone is waiting to do that same thing, the price will not go super high.

The problem here is, nobody actually knows what new ATH will be, so when the crash will start (if a pump ever happens soon), it will not be easy to get out of the game, and many will lose...
legendary
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Welt Am Draht

I'd say about 80% of HODLers are waiting for that fast jump upwards and they want to be that one person to sell at the top. When everyone is waiting to do that same thing, the price will not go super high.

That's what everyone thinks until they're stuck in the middle of it. They'll wait it out and blow it again. That's how human nature works and it's not changing any time soon.
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Well, people said that Cyprus was a test for Europe. They tested how people react when the government takes their money. People who said this got called conspirancy theorists. As so often. And as so often, those conspirancy theorists were right.

yes yes.... its all a conspiracy.......





Fluorid destroys the pineal gland. The pineal gland produces DMT. Google DMT and see what a powerfull substance it is. They try to avoid that humanity moves forward. But yeah, conspirancy theory for most people again.
legendary
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If the price is going up, why sell? You're basically buying fiat money...which is created to lose value.


legendary
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The price will probably not rise as quickly as previous bubbles ever again.

I'd say about 80% of HODLers are waiting for that fast jump upwards and they want to be that one person to sell at the top. When everyone is waiting to do that same thing, the price will not go super high.
Mixing strategies is often a mistake imo. If you are focused on maxing profits by trading at just the right time you are not thinking like an investor but like a trader. Personally, I follow the SSS method. I already know when I will sell and how much. The market goes to 2000 or a million, I'll be ready for it. Can people who are trying to catch the top really say the same?
legendary
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The price will probably not rise as quickly as previous bubbles ever again.

I'd say about 80% of HODLers are waiting for that fast jump upwards and they want to be that one person to sell at the top. When everyone is waiting to do that same thing, the price will not go super high.
hero member
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That's what all "economists" say until the bubble without reason to exist explodes. Letting most people peniless and few companies rich as fuck.
Always be careful for incredible markets movements not based on anything, they're mostly manipulation.

Pre-fucking-cisely!

I marvel at the faerie stories fundamental events cited in BTC as the reasons for either parabolic rises, or brutal crashes.

It's all bullshit. All of it.

Same in the wider world of 'real' markets. 7 Billion people on the planet, steadily consuming increasingly limited resources, yet in 2013, we have $150 oil because of 'Peak Oil' and 2 years later, we don't have 'Peak Oil' anymore, now have $30 Oil, cos 'China aint buying/Saudi's are Squeezing US Fracking/US is trying to nail Putin. All of it, or 95% of it, is fucking bullshit. These 'fundamental' stories come about and/or are used to add justification or emotional fuel to the Financial Funny Numbers game, which is simply a game of Buy it Low, Ramp it and then sell it High as Fuck to any sucker stupid enough to buy it.

Modern day markets are nothing but elaborate grand charades, whose purpose is merely to enrich the masters of those markets at the aggregate expense of the rest, yet the whole of modern society and economy is totally subordinate to them.

Back to Bitcoin. Bitcoin will not parabolically rise because of the *halving* or because of *the Chinese*. It will parabolically rise because a cabal of BTC whales will conspire to manufacture a parabolic rise, in which fundamental *reasons* such as the Halving or the Chinese will be used as 'justifcations' to the public to pile into Bitcoin and keep piling into Bitcoin until the point of pile in exhaustion. By all means, try and profit from these parasitic Financial Funny Number games, but don't fall into the trap of actually 'believing' in any of it. Otherwise, find yourself one day either staring at a fraction of your once fat n juicy gains, or worse still, and even more likely, finding yourself one day being a net bag holder when the Market Makers take the floor out from under Bitcoins feet, and you are left clinging to a whole bunch of Bitcoin paradigms that once upon a time, all 'made sense' and made you feeling rather clever for being smart enough to 'know them', but which suddenly, somehow, just don't seem to apply anymore.

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Answer this question. Every week Bitcoin becomes more and more liquid... true or false.....

Bitcoin liquidity even compared to 2013 is insanely better today.

What is more important is that bitcoin has everything that allows it to become the MOST liquid of ANY asset period. Why ignore the obvious simply because today you can't unload 25 million in bitcoin at market....?

True indeed. That still doesn't make it ready or desirable as a safe haven in any upcoming giant financial crisis for more than a handful of people. It may well be in the years to come but there's a lot of stuff that needs ironing out and vastly more volume is required for it to be a practical choice for large numbers.

Well for a very large class of human Bitcoin is liquid enough right now. The market decides what is a safe haven, you do not, when economy goes down and your asset goes up in value it is a haven for those with buying power.

Bitcoin right now simply proves you wrong. Bitcoin is up while the world market is down...... just a fact



That's what all "economists" say until the bubble without reason to exist explodes. Letting most people peniless and few companies rich as fuck.
Always be careful for incredible markets movements not based on anything, they're mostly manipulation.
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What happen in Cyprus?

ahahaha young boys...
when wikileaks got restriced what happened Wink ?

Mate I have family in Cyprus and have been there many times. I honestly thought he had new information on their economy that I hadn't seen but it was all old news that somehow he correlated with this week's BTC rise
hero member
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Actually such an unexpected crisis had nothing to do with the size of Cyprus' economy, but was caused by numerous underlying factors, then if China plummets it does not mean that Bitcoin will face a similar crisis because bitcoin conditions are totally different.
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What happen in Cyprus?

ahahaha young boys...
when wikileaks got restriced what happened Wink ?
legendary
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Answer this question. Every week Bitcoin becomes more and more liquid... true or false.....

Bitcoin liquidity even compared to 2013 is insanely better today.

What is more important is that bitcoin has everything that allows it to become the MOST liquid of ANY asset period. Why ignore the obvious simply because today you can't unload 25 million in bitcoin at market....?

True indeed. That still doesn't make it ready or desirable as a safe haven in any upcoming giant financial crisis for more than a handful of people. It may well be in the years to come but there's a lot of stuff that needs ironing out and vastly more volume is required for it to be a practical choice for large numbers.

Well for a very large class of human Bitcoin is liquid enough right now. The market decides what is a safe haven, you do not, when economy goes down and your asset goes up in value it is a haven for those with buying power.

Bitcoin right now simply proves you wrong. Bitcoin is up while the world market is down...... just a fact

legendary
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Welt Am Draht

Answer this question. Every week Bitcoin becomes more and more liquid... true or false.....

Bitcoin liquidity even compared to 2013 is insanely better today.

What is more important is that bitcoin has everything that allows it to become the MOST liquid of ANY asset period. Why ignore the obvious simply because today you can't unload 25 million in bitcoin at market....?

True indeed. That still doesn't make it ready or desirable as a safe haven in any upcoming giant financial crisis for more than a handful of people. It may well be in the years to come but there's a lot of stuff that needs ironing out and vastly more volume is required for it to be a practical choice for large numbers.



legendary
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So far the largest financial crisis to impact Bitcoin has been Cyprus. What a tiny tiny tiny tiny little country.

What happens when China plummets...........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35248798

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Should we be worried?
China is responsible for 17% of all the world's economic activity, so any downturn in spending there affects the rest of the world.

legendary
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I don't think that Cyprus is the reason why bitcoin price has been increased today, people are getting back from vacation and started investing a little bit in bitcoin.
legendary
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As of jan 1st 2016 it became legal for the banks to raid private accounts in euro countries. Forget china, the entire western world is about to collapse.

Well then it would be wise not to deposit all your money at your bank right?! Buy gold and store it at home.Buy Bitcoin and put it in cold storage.
"And then what?",one might ask.
Answer: Just wait!!  Smiley
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21 million. I want them all.
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
The next bubble burst will be china, once china's economy has done its course, trillions of dollar will try to leave china through bitcoin due to capital control
legendary
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current movement with china tanking says otherwise. For the poor bitcoin is out of reach, but for the rich, you are going to watch while your fortunes disappear?

The rich have land, property and other assets. Bitcoin is microscopic and painfully illiquid. It has the future potential to be something special but I think it's naive to think of it as a genuine contender in its present condition.

Answer this question. Every week Bitcoin becomes more and more liquid... true or false.....

Bitcoin liquidity even compared to 2013 is insanely better today.

What is more important is that bitcoin has everything that allows it to become the MOST liquid of ANY asset period. Why ignore the obvious simply because today you can't unload 25 million in bitcoin at market....?
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