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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9


I don't follow what others say or news i follow to indicators i watch fed data and instututional data.
And those indicators show's to me that financial markets are in trouble but btc and gold are protected.
I suggest to you become trader and full financial person with full knowledge it's your own benefits then you start see things things like i do study and learn also the mechacals of markets and how they work.
I see now bond market have issues and anyone who know everything about finances and markets knows that it's serious now and If it's bad in usa it has bad impact over the UK and Europe also becouse all the financial system are run by USA Fed.
legendary
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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9
legendary
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-whataboutism-
That other brainwashed kid on this forum uses whataboutism a lot better than you. This was a weak attempt, if you want to become better at the whataboutery propaganda tactics you need to work a lot more at it Grin

Expected empty answer, just to say something Smiley No arguments, nothing to oppose, "the last joy", after being once again smeared in the unpleasant truth - just to write a set of words that mean nothing Smiley
You look pathetic, you used to make fun of your primitivisms according to the propaganda "methodology", but now you have fallen to the bottom Smiley

Can't we talk about Iran's "successes"? Or it does not interest you at all ? Do you prefer neuro self-satisfaction, making up fantasies about the US economy ?  Smiley
legendary
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-whataboutism-
That other brainwashed kid on this forum uses whataboutism a lot better than you. This was a weak attempt, if you want to become better at the whataboutery propaganda tactics you need to work a lot more at it Grin
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The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.
legendary
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Considering how United States economy has been a Ponzi scheme for a very long time, there is no doubt that it will collapse at some point and there are a lot of "info" a bout it everywhere you look. The thing is, people don't want to accept ugly truths and prefer living in denial. Additionally it is not possible to predict "when" that collapse will occur, "how big" will that collapse be, and "what" happens next.

Take the 2008 collapse.
It was impossible to predict "when" it happened. Many people were warning for years before it happened and yet the corrupt structure were being kept alive artificially and by more fraud.
It was impossible to predict "how bit" that collapse would be, we now know though.
Most importantly we couldn't predict the next step. You see, the Ponzi scheme didn't die, it just got bigger to survive that  collapse and postpone the catastrophe and that scam has continued to this day.

The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
The problem is the nonstop printing of dollar out of thin air while keeping its value up artificially. Otherwise they'd just increase the debt ceiling again and default is averted.

As for war, that too costs a lot of money. Money US regime no longer has. Specially in today's world where "fighting cheap" wins you wars not "fighting big with a lot of money".

Take the ongoing war against a prison called Gaza. The entire NATO is helping the genocide with hundreds of billions of dollars and over that past 4-5 months their only achievement they had was killing innocent civilians while the damage on the armed forces of Gaza has been so minimal that it is negligible!!!
Why? Because a $6-$7 million tank can be blown up with a cigarette lighter that's worth like 5 bucks or a Yasin anti-tank missile worth 100 bucks. Or a $30 million US stealth aircraft can be shot down like a piece of cake with a missile that costs a grand.

Although we can't factor in the stupidity of decision makers, but US has fallen behind the military technology and strength. There is no way for the regime to win any wars anymore.


I remember the times of the USSR, when we were told every day, on all 3 TV channels (and there were no more), about the "rotting US economy", about the imminent collapse of their economy, and a bunch of similar "nice articles" like pooya87 Smiley. But. The USA is still the world leader, the USSR has dissolved into history leaving a toxic stain in the form of an international terrorist country. And what about Iran, whose representative so regularly talks about the problem and the impending collapse of the US economy ? Smiley
Instead of a thousand words, one graph. No, this is not a graph of growth of wealth of Iran's inhabitants, and not a graph of growth of Iran's military-industrial complex, and not a graph of population growth.... It's a graph of the total failure of the Iranian rial.... But for some reason pooya87 never says a word about it ! The question is why ?   Grin



Why no info about how serious are Iran financial situation now ?  Grin
legendary
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Considering how United States economy has been a Ponzi scheme for a very long time, there is no doubt that it will collapse at some point and there are a lot of "info" a bout it everywhere you look. The thing is, people don't want to accept ugly truths and prefer living in denial. Additionally it is not possible to predict "when" that collapse will occur, "how big" will that collapse be, and "what" happens next.

Take the 2008 collapse.
It was impossible to predict "when" it happened. Many people were warning for years before it happened and yet the corrupt structure were being kept alive artificially and by more fraud.
It was impossible to predict "how bit" that collapse would be, we now know though.
Most importantly we couldn't predict the next step. You see, the Ponzi scheme didn't die, it just got bigger to survive that  collapse and postpone the catastrophe and that scam has continued to this day.

The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
The problem is the nonstop printing of dollar out of thin air while keeping its value up artificially. Otherwise they'd just increase the debt ceiling again and default is averted.

As for war, that too costs a lot of money. Money US regime no longer has. Specially in today's world where "fighting cheap" wins you wars not "fighting big with a lot of money".

Take the ongoing war against a prison called Gaza. The entire NATO is helping the genocide with hundreds of billions of dollars and over that past 4-5 months their only achievement they had was killing innocent civilians while the damage on the armed forces of Gaza has been so minimal that it is negligible!!!
Why? Because a $6-$7 million tank can be blown up with a cigarette lighter that's worth like 5 bucks or a Yasin anti-tank missile worth 100 bucks. Or a $30 million US stealth aircraft can be shot down like a piece of cake with a missile that costs a grand.

Although we can't factor in the stupidity of decision makers, but US has fallen behind the military technology and strength. There is no way for the regime to win any wars anymore.
sr. member
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It is election year so do not expect negative news that will pose a threat to the current administration's bid for a second term. They will try to suppress anything that's controversial or try to bury it with something else since people quickly forgets. I think it's already an open secret that most of the big traditional media companies are controlled by some private groups and they will use that to protect the candidate they will support.
STT
legendary
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Arguably citizens of any country will not collapse while the government is strong enough to fund itself and so to the citizens.   The biggest argument for poverty is to acknowledge all debt, if that was done every citizen in some of the richest appearing countries would owe 70,000 and other countries you would have a capital surplus of 70,000.   However not all debt is equal, the time frame its issued at is not equal, consider the liquidity of the debt market support the price and cost of that debt  so in effect money is not linear in its worth or equal across the global exactly, its used in different ways.
  Its very obvious that dollar is considered superior to many other currencies even while there is alot of debt issued in that currency and liable to repay; equal comparison based on that debt would mean countries not in debt should be considered richer but this simple view is not how the current global economy works.
  
  If the observation is 'debt is too high & surely near a collapse' then consider the same view and words were said over fifty years ago not in a forum of the common people but by leaders of countries regarding global finance prospects.   I wouldn't say the comment was wrong but its not new and the timescale in the prediction is probably way off, we have to acknowledge its not a simple situation that everything will slide into the sea in some linear predictable way.
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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.
They won't collapse, they're the number 1 currency that's used in the global market right so how do can someone think that they're going to be collapsing anytime soon, and I think that if there ever is a collapse, they're not going to be gone that quick, they'll probably recover from it like they did back in the Great Depression. Palestine will definitely collapse, the Israelis are killing them and stripping them barely of their lands so they'll definitely going to be gone soon if there's no heroic intervention that will stop the fighting.
True USA is one of the power house country and almost foreign transactions are done through USD basis, so I think this news is lacking information or can be a fake news, I think all countries are experiencing financial crisis that's why many countries are in debt because they can't fully sustain the expenses of the country, including where country I'm residing in, my country has a huge debt in world bank its because the government are not responsible enough to their expenses, in fact you will notice in the news house the president are being in different leisure using the funds of the country, so I think the responsible for the financial crisis of a country is its government and management of the money, corruption and many more. So I will not be surprised if one day my country will be invaded and claimed by another country, and it will be total chaos.
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Where is you proof of this?  There's a reason the United States has the highest level of debt over any other country in the world, and that's because the United States has the most "attractive debt" in the world.  Other nations continue to allow the US to build debt because they believe in their ability to pay it back more than any other nation.  There's a reason US debt securities (Treasury Bonds for example) are considered the safest investment on the planet.

Bond markets looking bad Im expecting to see 90% world financial air out of finances.
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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.
They won't collapse, they're the number 1 currency that's used in the global market right so how do can someone think that they're going to be collapsing anytime soon, and I think that if there ever is a collapse, they're not going to be gone that quick, they'll probably recover from it like they did back in the Great Depression. Palestine will definitely collapse, the Israelis are killing them and stripping them barely of their lands so they'll definitely going to be gone soon if there's no heroic intervention that will stop the fighting.
legendary
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Where is you proof of this?  There's a reason the United States has the highest level of debt over any other country in the world, and that's because the United States has the most "attractive debt" in the world.  Other nations continue to allow the US to build debt because they believe in their ability to pay it back more than any other nation.  There's a reason US debt securities (Treasury Bonds for example) are considered the safest investment on the planet.
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I hate these troll topics that are just spamming and nothing more, no idea why it is even being done neither. But, this one I would like to talk about as well. Just the interest alone in USA debt right now is getting to a trillion dollars, I understand that creating debt to grow is a smart idea but they did not grow all that much neither, that's the trouble.

If you have a company that makes 1 million dollars a year, and you get 10 million dollars in debt, which will be paid 500k a year for 25 years, that would be 12.5 million dollars with interest, but then you start to make 2 million dollars a year profit with that investment, so it is a smart debt overall. But, if you get the debt and still make 1 million, then why did you even get the debt? That's the problem with the USA right now, they have debt, but not growing fast enough.
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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.


Look the Bond Market it's done...the repo Crisis aswell If they don't fix it we gona take 90% Western countries crash
legendary
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

USA economy is collapsing from last 2 years. I am hearing this news from very long time but it never happened. I do not think there is any weight to these type of news anymore. These are just rumors being spread by media companies for views because these are attention grabbing news.

If USA economy really collapses, weaker economies like Asian countries will show the sign already few months before. But no such thing has been reported so we can assume that USA economy is also completely safe.


And you can cite some numbers, some indicators that would speak to what you're saying - "USA economy is collapsing from last 2 years." ?

And preferably compared to the economies of other countries? I'll give you a hint - the world is going through a rather difficult period, which started during COWID19 and has been prolonged by international destabilization, both political and economic. And in this case it is not necessary to emphasize that the US economy is the only one with problems. That way the picture will be coherent and honest.
Although you can try to cite figures that would prove otherwise Smiley
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.

Even up till now,there are still several stories and information that are yet untold to us.The USA economy cannot opt out so easily,USA is certainly in order,that what's I see but whatever happens,lets normalize and accept the fate.We've been seeing and hearing that USA economy crashes soon....but its never to late to make something out.The USA economy stands still and strong .
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Now If would be the leader of USA i would solve problem by creating the reason why other countries need to start buying the dollar.
Now let's wait what will be the solution how they make specially Europe to buy the dollars.
Easy to say but that's hard to do, you do know that not every person can be persuaded by words or anything that don't involve force right? That's also not how global market works, the dollar's already the currency of choice for most countries so what's the point of what you're saying? From where we both stand, we think that it's easy to dole out policies that benefit the many but when you're the one making the decisions, that's a different kind of pressure.
jr. member
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.


Now If would be the leader of USA i would solve problem by creating the reason why other countries need to start buying the dollar.
Now let's wait what will be the solution how they make specially Europe to buy the dollars.
sr. member
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.
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