Regarding about the vaccine, being vaccinated doesn't mean you're COVID-19 free so you're free to travel whenever you want thinking you're safe from the virus. A lot of people here in my country are vaccinated already but somehow still, some of them still gets COVID-19.
But regarding about the Blockchain Identity, I would say it's very convenient and easy to use rather than bringing your passport that could be misplace or stolen by someone which would be hassle for you when you're travelling. It's a good thing if Governments would implement such kind of innovation in the future.
Topic: Why not "COVID" vaccine passports on a blockchain ID (Read 438 times)
it would be a safe, secured, difficult to tamper and widely available method of travelling and proving that an individual has had a vaccine. No borders, no language, no need to carry papers around. just you bio linked a a recognised signature and you are good to fly. Perhaps this looks too futuristic, but the technology is already there and could be a great testing ground.
yeah except for some countries want exact vaccine to pass borders. You cant get all vaccines
it would be a safe, secured, difficult to tamper and widely available method of travelling and proving that an individual has had a vaccine. No borders, no language, no need to carry papers around. just you bio linked a a recognised signature and you are good to fly. Perhaps this looks too futuristic, but the technology is already there and could be a great testing ground.
it has its good and bad, people doesnt want anyone to track them, on the other hand it has possitive sides, finding people, checking health etc..
So is a standard RFID, seriously we don't have to put blockchain in somewhere that isn't necessary when there are other things that could do the same work at more efficient levels and more cheaper. If it ain't broke, don't fix it right?
Because it will take more time and will incur more money. Plus technological barriers will make it so people will have an excuse not to be vaccinated, so although the paper COVID passport may seem primitive to some of us, It's simplicity and accessibility ensures that everyone can use its features without too much effort incurred on one side. Unlike digitizing the passport, where some of us still has a flip-phone instead of a smartphone in hand.
Valid point! But I have a question, why "covid vaccine passports" at all?! And a concern, how covid vaccine passports are related to the economy? Except for the ones who will be paid for making them...they can earn some money for their "special passport design" that cost a lot, and of course, the money is coming from our own pockets! So there's some money involved, so there must be some economy, right?!
This is probably a service discussion... is it possible to make something like this, and to be accessible for all the people in all parts of the world... pros and cons, problems and solutions... like I said, some service!
Let's not use blockchains just for the sake of it, OK?
Nice! I can't agree more with you here!
Because it will take more time and will incur more money. Plus technological barriers will make it so people will have an excuse not to be vaccinated, so although the paper COVID passport may seem primitive to some of us, It's simplicity and accessibility ensures that everyone can use its features without too much effort incurred on one side. Unlike digitizing the passport, where some of us still has a flip-phone instead of a smartphone in hand.
One drawback is ppl could sell their private key. There does not seem to be any way around it, except to embed something about the person's identity (eg, name) into the message, and have the person show their photo ID to the business. But that is a tradeoff of privacy for security.
you dont need a database.
you can instead just have smart contracts
imagine a vaccine centre signs with their keypair a message of
patient ID:
date: 12/3/21
batch: 143
that signature is proof you got vaccinated by that vaccine centre.
each signature is unique but each signature has a validation method.
you can carry around that signature and that signature can verify its contents. with a simple check
you can prove you are that patient by you signing your own message that corresponds to your public key
no database. no blocks no chains needed
airlines dont need access to all patient records. dont even need to validate all records on some database
they just ask for the signature from those wanting to fly
you can instead just have smart contracts
imagine a vaccine centre signs with their keypair a message of
patient ID:
date: 12/3/21
batch: 143
that signature is proof you got vaccinated by that vaccine centre.
each signature is unique but each signature has a validation method.
you can carry around that signature and that signature can verify its contents. with a simple check
you can prove you are that patient by you signing your own message that corresponds to your public key
no database. no blocks no chains needed
airlines dont need access to all patient records. dont even need to validate all records on some database
they just ask for the signature from those wanting to fly
I think this is a really good solution. It's low cost, secure, and can be used internationally. I would include the type of vaccine (eg, Sinovac, Pfizer, etc) because it might turn out that some of them do not work. Also one would need to keep each message, for the first vaccine, second vaccine, booster shot, etc, and the business could look at all of this information to determine if a person is 10 days out from the 2nd vaccine (if it is a 2-vaccine series).
it would be a safe, secured, difficult to tamper and widely available method of travelling and proving that an individual has had a vaccine. No borders, no language, no need to carry papers around. just you bio linked a a recognised signature and you are good to fly. Perhaps this looks too futuristic, but the technology is already there and could be a great testing ground.
Yes, I completely agree with you. It is quite possible to make a unified record of vaccination passports at least at the level of each state with open access based on the blockchain and it would be economically profitable. If the coronavirus does not recede for a long time, then, perhaps, as a result, governments will think of it. In a paper version, it is very expensive, and they will certainly be forged. Ordinary closed databases of such databases can be compromised. Such a blockchain-based framework is the perfect solution. 
you dont need a database.
you can instead just have smart contracts
imagine a vaccine centre signs with their keypair a message of
patient ID:
date: 12/3/21
batch: 143
that signature is proof you got vaccinated by that vaccine centre.
each signature is unique but each signature has a validation method.
you can carry around that signature and that signature can verify its contents. with a simple check
you can prove you are that patient by you signing your own message that corresponds to your public key
no database. no blocks no chains needed
airlines dont need access to all patient records. dont even need to validate all records on some database
they just ask for the signature from those wanting to fly
you can instead just have smart contracts
imagine a vaccine centre signs with their keypair a message of
patient ID:
date: 12/3/21
batch: 143
that signature is proof you got vaccinated by that vaccine centre.
each signature is unique but each signature has a validation method.
you can carry around that signature and that signature can verify its contents. with a simple check
you can prove you are that patient by you signing your own message that corresponds to your public key
no database. no blocks no chains needed
airlines dont need access to all patient records. dont even need to validate all records on some database
they just ask for the signature from those wanting to fly
Ofcourse (at the bolded).
In addition to that, a true Decentralized ID has to be privacy/anonymity friendly, ID private information has to be controlled/known by their owners alone, ID verifiers must not be able to store users IDs in anyway, etc
Decentralized ID Scheme has to unique and safer than the centralized ones.
You are almost totally correct except representing privacy for anonymity, they are completely different. The verifiable identity will only make privacy to be reality but it is not anonymous as the distributed ledger (blockchain) is not anonymous but private because only your cryptographic key can be used to access your vaccination validity. Anything anonymous is what anyone do not know about except you, so using it in this regard is not correct, but privacy is correct in this regard. In addition to that, a true Decentralized ID has to be privacy/anonymity friendly, ID private information has to be controlled/known by their owners alone, ID verifiers must not be able to store users IDs in anyway, etc
Decentralized ID Scheme has to unique and safer than the centralized ones.
I think ShareRing is already working on it.
They have a concept of COVID passports on the blockchain right here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nisaamoils/2020/08/02/sharering-uses-blockchain-to-solve-self-sovereign-identity-and-proof-of-health-simultaneously/?sh=2b5dc5363e61
I certainly like COVID passports to be integrated by blockchain technology due to it’s transparency, unhackable and tamper-proof technology. Thailand has already started implementing COVID passports, but not sure if they are using their own centralised system or blockchain technology.
I just wish other countries would be doing the same. It would be easy for travelers as long they’re showing the proof that they are completely vaccinated.
They have a concept of COVID passports on the blockchain right here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nisaamoils/2020/08/02/sharering-uses-blockchain-to-solve-self-sovereign-identity-and-proof-of-health-simultaneously/?sh=2b5dc5363e61
I certainly like COVID passports to be integrated by blockchain technology due to it’s transparency, unhackable and tamper-proof technology. Thailand has already started implementing COVID passports, but not sure if they are using their own centralised system or blockchain technology.
I just wish other countries would be doing the same. It would be easy for travelers as long they’re showing the proof that they are completely vaccinated.
While I do not trust much economic magazines on crypto knowledge, this leads me to think that it is not such a bad idea. You do not really need a lot of infrastructure even on third world countries. Most do have a degree of connectivity, even by cell, at those points where using a health passport would make sense.
I respect arguments against it, but most of them are simply out of not understanding that there is already encrypted blockchains, encrypted execution on the blockchain, etc... So no, an spreadsheet is not the same.
blockchain technology has indeed become a modern technology and will be very useful to be used as a main ledger without fear of losing any data entered. However for some reason some countries are still not using it. There is still no mass adoption of the real use of blockchain. The application of the Vacsin Passport is a pretty good innovation, but not everyone is familiar with blockchain technology and it certainly looks unfamiliar.
blockchain innovation in medicine has been around for a few years, but its real application has yet to be realized, only a beta project that is not developing.
blockchain innovation in medicine has been around for a few years, but its real application has yet to be realized, only a beta project that is not developing.
I think we all underestimate just how early days these are in the terms of Blockchain, I imagine in 5 years we will all look back and think, how did we get by without this.
blockchain technology has indeed become a modern technology and will be very useful to be used as a main ledger without fear of losing any data entered. However for some reason some countries are still not using it. There is still no mass adoption of the real use of blockchain. The application of the Vacsin Passport is a pretty good innovation, but not everyone is familiar with blockchain technology and it certainly looks unfamiliar.
blockchain innovation in medicine has been around for a few years, but its real application has yet to be realized, only a beta project that is not developing.
blockchain innovation in medicine has been around for a few years, but its real application has yet to be realized, only a beta project that is not developing.
Have you traveled to 3rd world countries yet? Most of the infrastructure there are ancient and these people hardly have electricity and water, so you will not be able to go to these countries, if that was one of the requirements.
Not really since computers and IT related device is cheap. It's not a problem, especially at the airport.Anyway, identity on the blockchain is not a new thing, and I believe a few companies are working on it (since I often read about it on Twitter, CMIIW).
However, the idea of a "covid vaccine passport" is a whole new different level of absurdity. Why stop at Covid, not Polio, Tetanus, Measles, etc.?
I thought about this, you could retain anonimity whilst also proving youve had the vaccine! obviouslt being Anon doesnt matter at airports but at bars and such this could help
Because it cannot be modified and with the details and information about the covid vaccine passport, there's still a huge debate towards it. It's still not acceptable for them to use such system like blockchain. And it's about the approval of the government.
As you know, they're not too knowledgeable about blockchain and crypto. And if they'll hear a solution for the vaccine passport like blockchain, the first thing that would come to their minds is that it's only about crypto.
As you know, they're not too knowledgeable about blockchain and crypto. And if they'll hear a solution for the vaccine passport like blockchain, the first thing that would come to their minds is that it's only about crypto.
I think ShareRing is already working on it.
They have a concept of COVID passports on the blockchain right here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nisaamoils/2020/08/02/sharering-uses-blockchain-to-solve-self-sovereign-identity-and-proof-of-health-simultaneously/?sh=2b5dc5363e61
I certainly like COVID passports to be integrated by blockchain technology due to it’s transparency, unhackable and tamper-proof technology. Thailand has already started implementing COVID passports, but not sure if they are using their own centralised system or blockchain technology.
I just wish other countries would be doing the same. It would be easy for travelers as long they’re showing the proof that they are completely vaccinated.
They have a concept of COVID passports on the blockchain right here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nisaamoils/2020/08/02/sharering-uses-blockchain-to-solve-self-sovereign-identity-and-proof-of-health-simultaneously/?sh=2b5dc5363e61
I certainly like COVID passports to be integrated by blockchain technology due to it’s transparency, unhackable and tamper-proof technology. Thailand has already started implementing COVID passports, but not sure if they are using their own centralised system or blockchain technology.
I just wish other countries would be doing the same. It would be easy for travelers as long they’re showing the proof that they are completely vaccinated.
First of all, I will like to address the issue of third parties, with this method, our information are sold just like the way big companies like Amazon, Facebook and Google are selling our data. If big companies like these can sell our day, why can't other companies do just the same, of this way is continuingly to be followed, it will not let peoples private information to be safe, which is the reason we truly need decentralized identity.
Ofcourse (at the bolded).
In addition to that, a true Decentralized ID has to be privacy/anonymity friendly, ID private information has to be controlled/known by their owners alone, ID verifiers must not be able to store users IDs in anyway, etc
Decentralized ID Scheme has to unique and safer than the centralized ones.
I believe that it is a waste of function of blockchain, vaccine passports doesn't need to be that complex, a simple database and simple anti-tampering stickers is enough to do the job. I know that it looks good that it can be part of blockchain but in the long run, I don't think that it is worth it.
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