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Topic: Why not just replace the bank infrastructure with something better - page 2. (Read 353 times)

sr. member
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bitcoins main issues are:

1. its wasting electricity
2. its anti organic
3. its not reliable

i think there is a better opportunity.

1-2. That's definitely debatable. But what are your suggested alternatives? Ask a central bank how much energy or resources in general they're using. Bitcoin's mining electricity consumption is dwarfed.

3. You don't commonly expect a new technology to be working flawlessly in just a decade, just as the internet wasn't ready for global adoption in it's first few years when it wasn't easy to use for majority of the people. Stop being too focused on the present, as technology always moves forward.

i recommend, a different system than banks, based on people intereacting and managing their economic enviornment,

like engineering foundations we then get an efficiency and success delivering infrastructure, instead of gaylords in banks,

they should all use the same logo for their currency, and all interact with their environment and reward people for maintain generativity of their economy, also guide that economy,

the currency issued this way is the

generative socio economic source, i am pioneering in this area.

its much better than banks, its not passive, its active, and its not sectoring the world into communist regions or worse nations etc.

they can theoretically create as much money as they want, but they should run an accounting system, oriented on organic calories, like for example 0.5 entities per kg of flour or 4000 kalories, then there is a reliable measurement, how the money is being spend and the most secure business is not bitcoin mining but producing these organic calories, since they are the base measurement.

generative socio economic source:

check my website. i could use help morphing/replacing current gambling financial institutions into with their environment operating ones.
mk4
legendary
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Paldo.io 🤖
bitcoins main issues are:

1. its wasting electricity
2. its anti organic
3. its not reliable

i think there is a better opportunity.

1-2. That's definitely debatable. But what are your suggested alternatives? Ask a central bank how much energy or resources in general they're using. Bitcoin's mining electricity consumption is dwarfed.

3. You don't commonly expect a new technology to be working flawlessly in just a decade, just as the internet wasn't ready for global adoption in it's first few years when it wasn't easy to use for majority of the people. Stop being too focused on the present, as technology always moves forward.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
with something better,

that is not racist, not communist, and religiously neutral, purely economic focused.

like it would be the case for a ecomonopolis like coruscant.

main problem bitcoin is that you created bitcoin not for a civilisation but for a market

who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
Everyone has a different perspective, maybe there is a saying that Bitcoin is a perfect system that might be used in a world financial system in the future. But now all we need to do is try to continue to support everything related to crypto, so that we can get maximum results in the future. We are the first part of the crypto world and we must be able to get the best results in the end.

bitcoins main issues are:

1. its wasting electricity
2. its anti organic
3. its not reliable

i think there is a better opportunity.
legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1001
with something better,

that is not racist, not communist, and religiously neutral, purely economic focused.

like it would be the case for a ecomonopolis like coruscant.

main problem bitcoin is that you created bitcoin not for a civilisation but for a market

who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
Everyone has a different perspective, maybe there is a saying that Bitcoin is a perfect system that might be used in a world financial system in the future. But now all we need to do is try to continue to support everything related to crypto, so that we can get maximum results in the future. We are the first part of the crypto world and we must be able to get the best results in the end.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1500
with something better,

that is not racist, not communist, and religiously neutral, purely economic focused.

like it would be the case for a ecomonopolis like coruscant.

main problem bitcoin is that you created bitcoin not for a civilisation but for a market

who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus

This kind of change will require mass consensus on a global level. Otherwise nothing is going to happen in the current banking system. However, Banks are slowly understanding that blockchain is the future and slowly started to apply for patents around blockchain technology for banks.

Now I would like to understand what you mean by "bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes"?

Today's economy and banking system thrives under strict centralization. Decentralizing the entire architecture would cost a fortune for the banks which is essentially public money. The way banking system is deeply rooted within our society and economy, it will bring a disaster if we want to replace it. Slow change and adoption will be able to reach that stage but it is again a time consuming process! Probably our next to next generation will see something drastically different and better, but not us!
sr. member
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again you seem to be trying to advertise LN.

a separate network that allows multiple coins to use that network all under one brand...
but without it being a blockchain itself there are many issues:

1. nodes need to be more than just channel managers. by also running a full node to monitor the vaulted coins movements onchain
2. with so many coins being allowed nodes end up having to monitor multiple chains. to then play off-chain
3. in a non blockchain payment system there is no byzantine generals solution
4. this makes way for master factory nodes to monitor the different chains and they become the watchtowers that get final signoff so that people dont have to self monitor everything and just become litewallet users that trust the watchtower factory

and now we are back to the 18th-19th century era of banking

if your now going to revise your concept. to be less LN and more separate chains that sidechain directly together. there still ends up with needing master nodes to monitor the ins and outs of both sides.
by which. if these master nodes need to monitor both sides. why have both sides. you might aswell just have 1 side with double capacity blocks

nope its all and the same coin, of a big group of people that run same mission, like for example building high tech infrastructure/products,

states are being founded this way btw. there is the group of capitalists that announces the state, the currency and the workers that then work for that currency
legendary
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again you seem to be trying to advertise LN.

a separate network that allows multiple coins to use that network all under one brand...
but without it being a blockchain itself there are many issues:

1. nodes need to be more than just channel managers. by also running a full node to monitor the vaulted coins movements onchain
2. with so many coins being allowed nodes end up having to monitor multiple chains. to then play off-chain
3. in a non blockchain payment system there is no byzantine generals solution
4. this makes way for master factory nodes to monitor the different chains and they become the watchtowers that get final signoff so that people dont have to self monitor everything and just become litewallet users that trust the watchtower factory

and now we are back to the 18th-19th century era of banking

if your now going to revise your concept. to be less LN and more separate chains that sidechain directly together. there still ends up with needing master nodes to monitor the ins and outs of both sides.
by which. if these master nodes need to monitor both sides. why have both sides. you might aswell just have 1 side with double capacity blocks
sr. member
Activity: 1470
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look folks its quite easy why dont we just replace the national/racist/communist banks with something useful that is somehow cooperating, like a network of engineering foundations that is global nonracist noncommunist, and engages in its local infrastructure.

all use the same logo for the currency and all use a standardised evaluation system

meaning you simply dont pay more token for a good of x value

there is already 2000 coins who try to want to replace some other system.
replacing a system is just upgrading the old system, but not solving the problem.

banks are "cooperative" they have layers of foundations. and at the bottom later engaging in local infrastructure.

now wash all your buzzwords away and use common speak to describe what you would actually want. as it seems right now your just trying to throw out as many buzzwords as you can to make a sentance but not actually getting out out a design plan of a network you want to see.

they have all to use the same logo, and they have to publish their mission.

worlds population currently wants more value sources more generativity(growth), if such a network of capitalists/aristokrats would be created/assembled together it would work.

look at china today for example it created a lot of economic output but there is not enough aristocratic network that takes those fruits and creates new things out of it.

capitalism is necessary. but better do it with a mission and standardise the communities global logo outlook.
legendary
Activity: 4410
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look folks its quite easy why dont we just replace the national/racist/communist banks with something useful that is somehow cooperating, like a network of engineering foundations that is global nonracist noncommunist, and engages in its local infrastructure.

all use the same logo for the currency and all use a standardised evaluation system

meaning you simply dont pay more token for a good of x value

there is already 2000 coins who try to want to replace some other system.
replacing a system is just upgrading the old system, but not solving the problem.

banks are "cooperative" they have layers of foundations. and at the bottom later engaging in local infrastructure.

now wash all your buzzwords away and use common speak to describe what you would actually want. as it seems right now your just trying to throw out as many buzzwords as you can to make a sentance but not actually getting out a design plan of a network you want to see.
sr. member
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in my oppinion its completely impossible that a stable urban planet like coruscant (star wars) runs banks be it communist or nationalist. it runs technological infrastructure focused foundations millions of them that basically are focused on balancing economic generativity.

if we could get together people that would want to run such a financial aristocracy and keep it standardised, it could create a global currency.

it is then a fiat currency of course, and disciplined usage meaning i simply dont spend with volatility but pay regular prices,

will create a generative network that interacts with its environment positively instead of ressource wasting like bitcoin

power must be taken, or there will be huge economic problems. this way we get rid of the communist/nationalist banks

bitcoin had lots of support because it took power that was available and the unsecure bankers created that power gap.

regards
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
look folks its quite easy why dont we just replace the national/racist/communist banks with something useful that is somehow cooperating, like a network of engineering foundations that is global nonracist noncommunist, and engages in its local infrastructure.

all use the same logo for the currency and all use a standardised evaluation system

meaning you simply dont pay more token for a good of x value
legendary
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because we can't change "people" overnight. they will continue to cling to their old ways as hard as they can even though they are bad. for example we created bitcoin as a decentralized payment system but people like you are still only caring about making profit and forgetting the more important part of it. so the change with this kind of mentality is not going to be that easy.
legendary
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you can chance the banking computer systems.
you can change their data base for a crypto that limited to x coins

but a bank would simply create bank altcoin that represent different bonds and different asset classes and things end up as the same thing.

just look at bitcoin. the bankers are already trying to say everyone into thinking blockchains cant scale and the only move forward is to lock funds up and use non blockchain bank-esq business models

LN is to crypto, what banks gold promissory notes were to the 18th century shift from gold to paper money
(LN flaw channel partners not always alive/awake/online.. solution. have a HQ watchtower factory to manage channels where they get final signoff on all broadcasts to unlock the vaults)
mk4
legendary
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Paldo.io 🤖
who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
Can you please expound more on what you mean with this statement? Especially with the "mistakes" part.

crypto is to confusing, its not systematik,

you have to create a multilayered financial system for an ecomenopolis, not a market that is annoying confusing.

the population has to support that financial infrastructure for good reasons.

Cryptocurrencies are confusing just as internet infrastructure is technically confusing. But we still see non tech-savvy people using the internet right? The same applies with bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general. It's just that they're simply not that user friendly for the older folks at the moment. Bitcoin is just 10 years young. With time, people will be making and developing solutions for the UI/UX problem.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
Can you please expound more on what you mean with this statement? Especially with the "mistakes" part.

crypto is to confusing, its not systematik,

you have to create a multilayered financial system for an ecomenopolis, not a market that is annoying confusing.

the population has to support that financial infrastructure for good reasons. not because someone is a nice guy, or the index depicts a certain coin far on top
mk4
legendary
Activity: 2870
Merit: 3873
Paldo.io 🤖
who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
Can you please expound more on what you mean with this statement? Especially with the "mistakes" part.
sr. member
Activity: 1470
Merit: 325
with something better,

that is not racist, not communist, and religiously neutral, purely economic focused.

like it would be the case for a ecomonopolis like coruscant.

main problem bitcoin is that you created bitcoin not for a civilisation but for a market

who the hell wants now to live under these communist/nationalists etc. bitcoin and crypto with all its mistakes destroyed their nimbus
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