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Quote from: _act_ on October 22, 2024, 05:20:27 AM

Why not make email verification compulsory before registering an account? Since the person continues, I do not think the IP ban is working or the forum does not want to ban the IP of the country the person is using to access this forum.

From what I've seen before registering an account on the forum can capture the IP pretty accurately but I've yet to see any system to verify this email.

But I think it would be very difficult or impossible to prevent scammers from registering accounts by verifying this email. But if it could be ensured that spammers could be unregistered by email then the balance of the forum would be well preserved. Scammers come to the forum by posting random posts in the forum to upset the balance of the forum. Although the moderator deletes the random post after seeing it for a long time but the scammers are usually there with some motive which is definitely not a good motive for the forum. But you'll be happy to know that scammers don't last long on forums.

The IP works perfectly and actually indicates to people that they have never been here before or that they can't register because it's banned from that IP.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on October 22, 2024, 07:51:22 AM

Quote from: _act_ on October 22, 2024, 05:20:27 AM

Since the person continues, I do not think the IP ban is working or the forum does not want to ban the IP of the country the person is using to access this forum.

IP ban works perfectly in fact it bans people who never wanted to register before. I know it because many people DM me on my Telegram that they are banned and can not post.

The IP ban still works well, the only thing here's that the IP ban can be avoided by the use of VPN and many members, was affected by the IP ban but where able to get through it using VPN and they're now positive members the forum.

I think until another option that support or improve privacy, the current approach of keeping the forum free from spammers will be better.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on October 22, 2024, 08:58:28 AM

I don't know how the spammer solve the reCaptcha easily I think theymos need to switch from reCaptcha v2 to v3 just to avoid those bots from registering new accounts.

Raising the entry barrier only makes it harder for honest people to join. A spammer can easily create 10+ accounts a day and send their spam messages across the forum regardless of the reCaptcha version used.

Quote from: tranthidung on October 22, 2024, 09:55:24 AM

IP ban works so there is Whitelisting process and some community members are volunteers for whitelisting like (perhaps more, I am not sure).

Welsh also has a published email to accept whitelisting applications. This is still a volunteer task as while all staffs can whitelist, not all have public emails to accept applications for that purpose.

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Quote from: hugeblack on October 22, 2024, 05:27:11 AM

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If there is real spam from newbies then admin can reduce posting limit to several posts per day instead of the 360 second limit but you need to prove that there is a heavily spam happening and it is harming the forum.

I think that this limit should be increased and thus make it as difficult as possible for these spammers. It may seem like a "hostile move" to someone, but if the rules of the game are set as it is now, then we see that someone can write 4-5 or more posts with obviously dangerous links before being removed from the forum.

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Quote from: _act_ on October 22, 2024, 05:20:27 AM

Not verifying email before anyone can successfully register an account on this forum makes it easy for the person to create new accounts. Why not make email verification compulsory before registering an account?

It's for privacy. Emails can connect so many things and if you are not careful, it breaks your privacy.

Quote from: theymos on July 12, 2019, 03:04:24 PM

BTW, email is a big privacy issue in general. It's too expensive (mainly time-wise) to create new email addresses, but if you use the same one, it creates tons of links. Ideally, you should use one email per service.

Quote from: BitMaxz on October 22, 2024, 08:58:28 AM

I don't know how the spammer solve the reCaptcha easily I think theymos need to switch from reCaptcha v2 to v3 just to avoid those bots from registering new accounts.

If they use captcha bypass code, they can easily log in their accounts, no need to solve captcha.

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Your suggestion would make sense if there weren't bunch of services for temporary email address
But since they exist, this would be just another pointless step that won't stop or slow down account farmers and spammers.

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It won't solve the spamming activity or making new account bots for spamming, remember there are temporary/disposable emails available online. But this will surely will solve other things like forgetting email for account recovery.

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I got almost 40+ notification from spammer.
I don't know how the spammer solve the reCaptcha easily I think theymos need to switch from reCaptcha v2 to v3 just to avoid those bots from registering new accounts.

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Quote from: _act_ on October 22, 2024, 05:20:27 AM

Since the person continues, I do not think the IP ban is working or the forum does not want to ban the IP of the country the person is using to access this forum.

IP ban works perfectly in fact it bans people who never wanted to register before. I know it because many people DM me on my Telegram that they are banned and can not post.

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The thing is spammer's like this tend to come to the forum from time to time. I thought about creating a similar thread like this when I saw over 20 of his repeated spam posts but I decided to chill since they will eventually get deleted and a thread like this has been raised previously before. That email verification of a thing would be effective but I'm not sure Theymos would want to implement it .

Had I created this particular thread I would have suggested some kind of IP block for a long period of time. I know that newbies have it already but it seems the duration of the block still allows scammers like this do continue spamming. Let's just give it a while though hopefully he'll tire out soon.

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For a small amount of money you can create hundreds of email addresses per day so adding email verification won't change anything.

If there is real spam from newbies then admin can reduce posting limit to several posts per day instead of the 360 second limit but you need to prove that there is a heavily spam happening and it is harming the forum.

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Quote from: theymos on June 24, 2018, 10:16:59 PM

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.

The low signal-to-noise is a real issue which seriously annoys me and is often on my mind. But as you mention, fixing it non-destructively is difficult.

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IIRC theymos mention about better privacy. Anyway, i don't think simply requiring to complete email verification can stop spam or scam attempt for some reasons,
1. Many temporary email website exist.
2. You could abuse plus sign on email address. For example, [email protected], [email protected], ... , [email protected].
3. There are some service which offer lots or "unlimited" email alias. For example, Apple's Hide My Email.

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You can see an idiot spamming on this forum with the same posts but different accounts. The person finds it easy to use any email which are not even existing to create new account on this forum. Not verifying email before anyone can successfully register an account on this forum makes it easy for the person to create new accounts. Why not make email verification compulsory before registering an account?

Since the person continues, I do not think the IP ban is working or the forum does not want to ban the IP of the country the person is using to access this forum.

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