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Quote from: Prettyjing34 on July 10, 2021, 04:37:22 AM

Compared with cryptocurrencies, they believe in the government more and feel that the government is their support. If their investment is deceived, they believe that the government will help them, and the percentage of government financial system collapse is very small, but these can only be applied to some powerful ones Country, but if it is a small country, the government will not care about this kind of thing. Anyway, I still trust Bitcoin a little more.

In reality it never happens. Governments often change the policy and no one can do anything about it.

Government deceive the people yet people still have confidence in them.

The government can change the policies, even deceive the majority of the people but the businesses and the people cannot put pressure on this system when the sky they live in is under the strictness of the government, sometimes truth and falsehood are mixed formulas in life, people sometimes also don't adapt to investments from the government but the common slogan in this relationship is still economy and safety. The government may not contribute much and take advantage of us but they are responsible for safety and we are in charge of making money to share with them

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Quote from: Prettyjing34 on July 10, 2021, 04:37:22 AM

Compared with cryptocurrencies, they believe in the government more and feel that the government is their support. If their investment is deceived, they believe that the government will help them, and the percentage of government financial system collapse is very small, but these can only be applied to some powerful ones Country, but if it is a small country, the government will not care about this kind of thing. Anyway, I still trust Bitcoin a little more.

In reality it never happens. Governments often change the policy and no one can do anything about it.

Government deceive the people yet people still have confidence in them.

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Quote from: Woodie on July 10, 2021, 01:25:25 PM

Probably people are afraid to ask questions and will go with anything thrown at them.

Afaik in reality there are always alternatives which offer better options but we still believe government controlled investments are the best choice but this is far from being true. Our governments have painted this picture which has convinced many of us that we cant do without them but bitcoin is the answer to financial freedom

Yes but maybe they bet on the fact that nobody is going to ask a question? I mean Steve Wozniak alone could ask so many critical questions, but he doesn't. Does he not do it because he wants to not acknowledge all the things that happened without his input? Is that a personal issue?

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Probably people are afraid to ask questions and will go with anything thrown at them.

Afaik in reality there are always alternatives which offer better options but we still believe government controlled investments are the best choice but this is far from being true. Our governments have painted this picture which has convinced many of us that we cant do without them but bitcoin is the answer to financial freedom

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Following the government to deposit money in banks will make the value of the currency will not increase and a little profit every year and not to mention if the country is experiencing high inflation, some people store it in gold and land assets but if they know bitcoin it will provide high profits.

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Quote from: Kprawn on March 28, 2020, 05:32:28 AM

Just think about it a little. Roll Eyes

You know that whatever happens with your government controlled investment, you will have a safety net from that government. History has shown us how governments have bailed out Banks and/or injected millions or even Billions of tax payers money into economies to protect it.

You sound very naive and under-informed on how the world works. Governments should just be the centralized workings that keep a country running - making laws, organizing taxes to support vital services, maintaining emergency services, etc. They use a centrally pooled group of funds from various taxes to achieve those aims and should be able to do it much more efficiently (because of the larger scale) than smaller regional equivalents could provide. Money is just a store of value that can be traded for goods and services in countries that accept that currency. I don't know why you think Bitcoin, which has no government centralized support, would ever be eligible to receive any funds from any government. Would you suggest that people who invest in gold are somehow compensated when the price drops? The whole idea is absurd.

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For a business.controlled by the government, the.security will be tighter.and the risk.will tend.to be lighter.than for a business.that is.not controlled.by the government, but the profits.will be less because it.has a low risk.while a business.without a government escort.is at risk.is much larger, therefore.many people invest.more in.businesses controlled.by the government with less risk

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Quote from: Anonylz on July 10, 2021, 05:16:37 AM

There is nothing wrong in investing in government controlled investment provided you invested in the right sector and getting something good out of your investment, before btc becomes a thing, this same government controlled investment has made several people billionaires in their own respective ways, it all depends on your understanding and where you choose to put your money, just like government controlled investment, btc investment is not without flaws as well, even though the space is not heavily controlled it hasn't stop people from losing money to scammers, you can't deny the fact that an unregulated space as this is not crawling with all manners of scammers, at this point, this space is all about survival for the fittest and that's something some people are not willing to go through, people are more interested in secured investment regardless if it is controlled or not.

Many people do not understand why they are should have funds in government insured investments.

Lets say you have 500000.

Depending on your age.

400k safe 100k risky age 65
300k safe 200k risky age 55
200k safe 300k risky age 45
100k safe 400k risky age 35
50 k safe 450k risky age 25

so if you are in safe bonds right now you are losing 2% to inflation
which sucks but the money is there and you know it will be there.

so if my wife has a safe 401k with:400k and i have 100 k in crypto.

I have zero fear about the crypto.
also we are 64 and 65 so having a large safe number is more appropriate.

now at 25 or 30 government bonds look bad which is why an investor that is young will do much lower % in a safe investment.

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Quote from: Zilon on July 10, 2021, 07:04:31 AM

You wouldn't blame the masses much because over the years government owned investment gave out huge ROI and had made many big players multimillionaires over the years so coming to invest in a decentralized system without government approval would possibly a huge challenge in the cryto industry.

In addition to high ROI, the government also promises very small risks as long as investors believe in them. but that's how the government controls the finances of those who invest in them. The government deliberately shows a fake sense of security and comfort so that people do not want to invest in other assets, especially crypto.

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You wouldn't blame the masses much because over the years government owned investment gave out huge ROI and had made many big players multimillionaires over the years so coming to invest in a decentralized system without government approval would possibly a huge challenge in the cryto industry.

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Quote from: Anonylz on July 10, 2021, 05:16:37 AM

There is nothing wrong in investing in government controlled investment provided you invested in the right sector and getting something good out of your investment, before btc becomes a thing, this same government controlled investment has made several people billionaires in their own respective ways, it all depends on your understanding and where you choose to put your money, just like government controlled investment, btc investment is not without flaws as well, even though the space is not heavily controlled it hasn't stop people from losing money to scammers, you can't deny the fact that an unregulated space as this is not crawling with all manners of scammers, at this point, this space is all about survival for the fittest and that's something some people are not willing to go through, people are more interested in secured investment regardless if it is controlled or not.

Government controlled investments have made several people billionaires? I am not sure I have the slightest idea which type of government controlled investments you are talking about, but if you are talking about bonds, the only way to become a billionaire is if you put $990 million into a bond and wait at least 1.5 years or so. Other than that what do you understand under the term government controlled?

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There is nothing wrong in investing in government controlled investment provided you invested in the right sector and getting something good out of your investment, before btc becomes a thing, this same government controlled investment has made several people billionaires in their own respective ways, it all depends on your understanding and where you choose to put your money, just like government controlled investment, btc investment is not without flaws as well, even though the space is not heavily controlled it hasn't stop people from losing money to scammers, you can't deny the fact that an unregulated space as this is not crawling with all manners of scammers, at this point, this space is all about survival for the fittest and that's something some people are not willing to go through, people are more interested in secured investment regardless if it is controlled or not.

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Quote from: Prettyjing34 on July 10, 2021, 04:37:22 AM

Compared with cryptocurrencies, they believe in the government more and feel that the government is their support. If their investment is deceived, they believe that the government will help them, and the percentage of government financial system collapse is very small, but these can only be applied to some powerful ones Country, but if it is a small country, the government will not care about this kind of thing. Anyway, I still trust Bitcoin a little more.

You are right, this depends on the scale and the trust of the public towards the government. I think that it's difficult for an established government that came from a peaceful time to suddenly collapse though.

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Compared with cryptocurrencies, they believe in the government more and feel that the government is their support. If their investment is deceived, they believe that the government will help them, and the percentage of government financial system collapse is very small, but these can only be applied to some powerful ones Country, but if it is a small country, the government will not care about this kind of thing. Anyway, I still trust Bitcoin a little more.

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Quote from: clint25n on July 09, 2021, 03:20:30 PM

maybe it's just more for the security and security of the business which is directly controlled by the government, therefore they prefer businesses that are controlled by the government, such as the supervision from the OJK which is always under the control of the government, that's why they are more twisting the business than plunging into a business like crypto.because the business is less risky even with a small profit

There is security in government controlled investments and assets and that's why they're offering it to people that wants to be part of it. But the counterpart of it is that you get little from the money you invest.

But the government will get a bigger portion of the pie that you invest. They're working like the banks and they speak of security because they know that not all investors are educated investors.

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Quote from: TribalBob on July 05, 2021, 08:13:26 AM

In my opinion, government-controlled investing is safe from loss or loss, but there is a downside if we invest in fiat, the value only increases by 3-10% in 1 year, in contrast to bitcoin if it has gone up, you can get 100% profit or even more.
too many bitcoin weaknesses in my opinion, hacker threats, price drops, scams and much more

and it all depends on which trust is more comfortable in investing because everyone's views are different

Even it was controlled by the government the word safety from losing had no assurance to any form of investment. Maybe they are after that they are protected but not that they can't experience losses. And they are paying more taxes every year.

Volatility is one reason why many don't choose Bitcoin and they are afraid to lose their money instantly. That is why this kind of investment isn't for everyone but only those risk-takers and those who can afford to lose their money without regrets. But somehow we just mess up because the thing that we think is risky (Bitcoin) is more profitable than stocks and bonds.

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maybe it's just more for the security and security of the business which is directly controlled by the government, therefore they prefer businesses that are controlled by the government, such as the supervision from the OJK which is always under the control of the government, that's why they are more twisting the business than plunging into a business like crypto.because the business is less risky even with a small profit

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Quote from: Kprawn on March 28, 2020, 05:32:28 AM

.. Why people are comfortable investing in government controlled investments ...

I think it is because they are naive and think that governments are out to protect them when in reality the governments are there to control them and collect a vig from every person in each country. It gives them power and money, all the while allowing the politicians to control everyone else.

The government is not there to help.

You can't blame them because the assurance that their funds will not disappear overnight is there. So for those that don't want high risk investment, they opt to this route. They are confident that their funds are safe, even if it is controlled by the government. They are comfortable as they already know this market. However, if they are introduced with a new one, like crypto market, you will always expect some hesitations from them, because it is like uncharted territory and they are not familiar with the market.

This totally depends on the country you are living in. There have been a couple of surprises in the past when it comes to government backed securities or bonds. I know that Greece is not the best example because it was quite well known they were in dire straits, but that is one example for a government to go bankrupt. Often times people think that governments cannot go bankrupt because they could just print money. That is not the case for any government that is part of a union anyway, and for the other governments they'll go full speed into hyperinflation (Venezuela).

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Quote from: cr1776 on July 09, 2021, 09:12:41 AM

Quote from: Kprawn on March 28, 2020, 05:32:28 AM

.. Why people are comfortable investing in government controlled investments ...

I think it is because they are naive and think that governments are out to protect them when in reality the governments are there to control them and collect a vig from every person in each country. It gives them power and money, all the while allowing the politicians to control everyone else.

The government is not there to help.

You can't blame them because the assurance that their funds will not disappear overnight is there. So for those that don't want high risk investment, they opt to this route. They are confident that their funds are safe, even if it is controlled by the government. They are comfortable as they already know this market. However, if they are introduced with a new one, like crypto market, you will always expect some hesitations from them, because it is like uncharted territory and they are not familiar with the market.

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Quote from: Kprawn on March 28, 2020, 05:32:28 AM

.. Why people are comfortable investing in government controlled investments ...

I think it is because they are naive and think that governments are out to protect them when in reality the governments are there to control them and collect a vig from every person in each country. It gives them power and money, all the while allowing the politicians to control everyone else.

The government is not there to help.

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