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Topic: Why Quark is a loser in 2014, Doge is a winner, and how this relates to Vertcoin - page 2. (Read 6858 times)

legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
...lots of these pro vertcoin threads being spammed daily.


Next sucker some people in .........then the dump starts.  Waiting for the smack down anytime now. I predict seeing a -50% + stat on coinmarket cap any day now. Invest now and you will be taking on a serious risk for very little potential upside.


What they don't realise is that the size of your coin community is probably the single most important thing.

Vertcoin?  even the name just sounds terrible.
hero member
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Just check out the video.

This is what's insulting to people's intelligence.

People have been doing nothing but spamming that video all over the forum all week with a Disney world explanation of Quark.

In reality, an unbiased viewer with enough knowledge of how crypto works would define Quark as the following:

Quark (noun):  A proof of work cryptocurrency that either through sheer incompetence, or an attempt to run a pump and dump scam, sacrificed all block chain security with an accelerated block reward model, reaping windfall profits, and possibly utilizing a close sourced GPU miner kept from the public.  The coin now resides on life support, and only through a checkpoint system, which needs to be run in real time to prevent a homeless man with laptop from 51% attacking the network does the coin still exist at all.



Lol - dogecoin is 10x worse
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r0ach all you care about is if a coin allows your gpu mining rig to make money.  Cheesy  that is the summary of this thread.

legendary
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Apparently, the Doge reserve is now going with 5% dogeflation, even though it was basically unanimous that everyone wanted them to halve it, so my original post is slightly off on Doge numbers.  It then hits 3% Dogeflation in 2029, then 2% in 2045.  With the aforementioned, crashing your Lamborghini into a tree, and sending up your dogecoin USB drive up in a fireball, "Paul Walker Effect", that 2% number will probably be more like 1% or 0%.  Full details here:  

http://theblogchain.com/2014/02/03/dogecoin-is-not-mugabecoin-a-discussion-of-inflation/
legendary
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Terminated.
If the supply was within a normal limit (much lower than it currently is), i'd probably be more okay with it.
The numbers are off the chart. I wonder what will happen at the next subsidy.
hero member
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Please stop the biased

full member
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Stand on the shoulders of giants
Goats ... Buzz Aldrin took a masonic apron to the moon... I going to invest in doge because I want to see a cryptocoin idea on the moon as well

for me, now doge have a purpose ...  Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqC7H7_Noi8
legendary
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You just lost all credibility and established yourself as the bitcointalk dunce.

Yeah, Quark developers created a private GPU-miner that no one else has been able to make and used it to exploit their coin and none others that they also could have profited off...  Roll Eyes

Please stop the biased, Quark shilling.  The GPU miner exists and was close source.  I didn't make it up.  Whether it's affiliated with the creators or not doesn't really matter.  It just adds to the long list of Quark problems.  It's not the "sole defining problem".
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Just check out the video.

This is what's insulting to people's intelligence.

People have been doing nothing but spamming that video all over the forum all week with a Disney world explanation of Quark.

In reality, an unbiased viewer with enough knowledge of how crypto works would define Quark as the following:

Quark (noun):  A proof of work cryptocurrency that either through sheer incompetence, or an attempt to run a pump and dump scam, sacrificed all block chain security with an accelerated block reward model, reaping windfall profits, and possibly utilizing a close sourced GPU miner kept from the public.  The coin now resides on life support, and only through a checkpoint system, which needs to be run in real time to prevent a homeless man with laptop from 51% attacking the network does the coin still exist at all.



You just lost all credibility and established yourself as the bitcointalk dunce.

Yeah, Quark developers created a private GPU-miner that no one else has been able to make and used it to exploit their coin and none others that they also could have profited off...  Roll Eyes
hero member
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Just check out the video.

This is what's insulting to people's intelligence.

People have been doing nothing but spamming that video all over the forum all week with a Disney world explanation of Quark.

In reality, an unbiased viewer with enough knowledge of how crypto works would define Quark as the following:

Quark (noun):  A proof of work cryptocurrency that either through sheer incompetence, or an attempt to run a pump and dump scam, sacrificed all block chain security with an accelerated block reward model, reaping windfall profits, and possibly utilizing a close sourced GPU miner kept from the public.  The coin now resides on life support, and only through a checkpoint system, which needs to be run in real time to prevent a homeless man with laptop from 51% attacking the network does the coin still exist at all.



legendary
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Just check out the video.

This is what's insulting to people's intelligence.

People have been doing nothing but spamming that video all over the forum all week with a Disney world explanation of Quark.

In reality, an unbiased viewer with enough knowledge of how crypto works would define Quark as the following:

Quark (noun):  A proof of work cryptocurrency that either through sheer incompetence, or an attempt to run a pump and dump scam, sacrificed all block chain security with an accelerated block reward model, reaping windfall profits, and possibly utilizing a close sourced GPU miner kept from the public.  The coin now resides on life support, and only through a checkpoint system, which needs to be run in real time to prevent a homeless man with laptop from 51% attacking the network does the coin still exist at all.

hero member
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Your article made me want to buy BTC and dump doge.  Doge may get used more, as it looks like a survivor at this point, but without the limit on the number of coins you would always be better off holding bitcoin.

The Doge developers should have done what they said they were going to do and cap it at the 100 billion.  Even that is probably too many coins.

I understand the benefits of inflation and would have had no objection to them not having a cap, but you should do what you say you are.

Bitcoin is always a better choice in little to no time doge will have no real time because you can have unlimited coins which is just pointless doge will not survive.
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Doge brings users.  Lots and lots of users.  I don't know why anything else matters to you guys.  Maybe those users will suddenly decide to switch to Quark, but it seems highly doubtful.  More likely they will continue to spread the word of Doge like a virus.  600,000 addresses in 6 weeks.  They are eclipsing everything, but Bitcoin.  Personally I couldn't give a crap about the current market cap only that this trend continues.

I am trying to run the Quark numbers, but I keep showing that overall Quarkcoin addresses are 3000 less than yesterday.  Is this some peculiar Quark issue with the blockchain?  Honest question, I am trying to make sure my numbers are accurate.



I really doubt that your info is right then.

Agreed that Doge is bringing many new users to crypto - but I don't agree that they won't consider other crypto options even if 'doge' is fun.
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Doge brings users.  Lots and lots of users.  I don't know why anything else matters to you guys.  Maybe those users will suddenly decide to switch to Quark, but it seems highly doubtful.  More likely they will continue to spread the word of Doge like a virus.  600,000 addresses in 6 weeks.  They are eclipsing everything, but Bitcoin.  Personally I couldn't give a crap about the current market cap only that this trend continues.

I am trying to run the Quark numbers, but I keep showing that overall Quarkcoin addresses are 3000 less than yesterday.  Is this some peculiar Quark issue with the blockchain?  Honest question, I am trying to make sure my numbers are accurate.

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I don't even know why people bother replying to this thread.

He literally just wrote a wall of words.

Mark Twain once said “I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”

Just check out the video.
legendary
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From my understanding, BTC just drops in a snapshot of the most recent consensus chain whenever they do an update.  Quark on the other hand, seems to rely entirely on the checkpoints for all of it's security currently, and would need to broadcast checkpoints practically in real time for it's network to be secure.
legendary
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If you read what I wrote, or know anything about crypto, you would know Quark is even worse off than Doge.  Quark has checkpoints for a reason.
Checkpoints are bad?

Checkpoints are there to make the code more secure, even Bitcoin has checkpoints.
Looks like bitcoin developers added one 16 days ago unless Im reading that wrong, added at block 279000:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/checkpoints.cpp

It's very easy to assume, you don't own any Quark and don't like to see it rising.

You own doge and vertcoin so hope people buy these to support your coins ...

I own Quark and Doge but am way more bullish on Quark than Doge for numerous reasons.

Doge offers zero innovation, as it is just a scrypt clone with too many coins.  The community is great but its economic model/distribution is somewhat flawed.  

Quark although based off of Sifcoin, is now the leader of CPU, ASIC resistant, coins.  Its unique hashing algorithm and speedy transactions combined with very little capital dilution going forward & its growing community make it a very attractive investment.  You can still get some as the price is still cheap ...
legendary
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Are all coins with checkpoints bad then? Is PPC bad because of checkpoints?

Checkpoints are a safeguard that Quark probably won't have to use. Quark is resistant to 51% attacks because of it (much more resistant than many crypto-coins), and as the value of Quark goes up, the mining incentive will go up and further secure the network..

Lol?  Federal reserve notes are also resistant to 51% attacks.
sr. member
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Giga
Quark is far from being a loser. Sure it won't net you 100x, the main run is over. But it's got potential for at least 10x for this year, and then it stabilizes there in value and will then go up slowly as market cap increases (the way it was designed) as a day to day currency.

My bet on Quark is due to its growing infrastructure that can't be overlooked.

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If you read what I wrote, or know anything about crypto, you would know Quark is even worse off than Doge.  Quark has checkpoints for a reason.

Are all coins with checkpoints bad then? Is PPC bad because of checkpoints?

Checkpoints are a safeguard that Quark probably won't have to use. Quark is resistant to 51% attacks because of it (much more resistant than many crypto-coins), and as the value of Quark goes up, the mining incentive will go up and further secure the network..
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