Topic: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin - page 26. (Read 45626 times)

Quote from: datz on May 12, 2013, 11:10:59 PM

Ripple is not a scam, but my contentions with Ripple are the following:

Ultimately, competition in cryptocurrency land is good. I have great respect for the OpenCoin developers, and Ripple is certainly not a scam, but I remain unconvinced of the system's ultimate merit.

All of your criticisms are factually accurate, and I agree that these are the strongest negatives that Ripple has. I think the positives outweigh the negatives and that there are ways to mitigate all of these issues. But these are definitely fair points as Ripple currently stands. For many of them, my response would be -- wait and see.

I suggest everyone keep their money out of ripple and wait and see.

So far I don't see anything of real use that is > Bitcoin model in the ripple system.

Let's wait and see.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 12, 2013, 10:46:43 PM

Quote from: redwraith on May 12, 2013, 11:24:19 PM

If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

I've reviewed the post history of anti-scam and have concluded that this person is either unwilling or unable to participate in any sort of rational discourse. I put them on ignore. It seems they created the account just to bad-mouth Ripple.

is anti-scam affiliated with http://ripplescam.org/? this backlash against Ripple is quite ridiculous. some people like anti-scam have this 0 | 1 - Ripple | Bitcoin mindset probably because they do not have the capacity to understand what problems the Ripple protocol solves. It would be a shame if Ripple failed due to relativist extremists and Bitcoin yuppies.

I'm new here but it seems like the signal to noise on this particular topic really varies. It wouldn't hurt people to just up their game.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 12, 2013, 10:46:43 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 12, 2013, 10:46:43 PM

If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

I've reviewed the post history of anti-scam and have concluded that this person is either unwilling or unable to participate in any sort of rational discourse. I put them on ignore. It seems they created the account just to bad-mouth Ripple.

antiscam is probably being paid by TradeFortress and the vehemence with which both oppose ripple makes me think that one or both of them is the originator of ripplescam.org.

I thought TradeFortress was known to be the originator of ripplescam.org?
At least that's what I thought when I saw his old sig pop-up with "Ripple is a scam!" in a huge font linking to that site hahaha

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I see the most blind Ripple hate coming from miners. I suppose Ripple is seen by some as a threat to the value of mining.

Not only do I agree with Erik Voorhees (the epitome of a Bitcoin bull) that in a general sense competition is always good. I also feel Bitcoin and Ripple are allies in a competition that's happening in a bigger arena than most people are aware of.

"A Billion dollars isn't cool. You know what's cool? A trillion dollars." - Nameface

Also, some people say Ripple is "just trying to be a better Paypal". Can someone please explain to me WTF is wrong that? We need that yesterday.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 12, 2013, 10:46:43 PM

If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

I've reviewed the post history of anti-scam and have concluded that this person is either unwilling or unable to participate in any sort of rational discourse. I put them on ignore. It seems they created the account just to bad-mouth Ripple.

antiscam is probably being paid by TradeFortress and the vehemence with which both oppose ripple makes me think that one or both of them is the originator of ripplescam.org.

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If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

I've reviewed the post history of anti-scam and have concluded that this person is either unwilling or unable to participate in any sort of rational discourse. I put them on ignore. It seems they created the account just to bad-mouth Ripple.

is anti-scam affiliated with http://ripplescam.org/? this backlash against Ripple is quite ridiculous. some people like anti-scam have this 0 | 1 - Ripple | Bitcoin mindset probably because they do not have the capacity to understand what problems the Ripple protocol solves. It would be a shame if Ripple failed due to relativist extremists and Bitcoin yuppies.

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Quote from: anti-scam on May 12, 2013, 08:31:46 PM

If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

I've reviewed the post history of anti-scam and have concluded that this person is either unwilling or unable to participate in any sort of rational discourse. I put them on ignore. It seems they created the account just to bad-mouth Ripple.

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Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.

If you agree then why do I still see "open" and "any currency" on Ripple's front page? How about "open (when we feel like it)" and "any kind of IOU"? Truth in advertising goes a long way.

If you want to repeat the same points I've already addressed, please don't style them as a question to me, as if I haven't already answered them several times. You already know my answers. If you're so big on honesty, honestly say that you disagree with my positions, rather than asking me to repeat them yet again as if I've never responded to these points.

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Quote from: anti-scam on May 12, 2013, 08:31:46 PM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 10, 2013, 11:57:38 PM

Ripple is not a scam, but my contentions with Ripple are the following:

Ultimately, competition in cryptocurrency land is good. I have great respect for the OpenCoin developers, and Ripple is certainly not a scam, but I remain unconvinced of the system's ultimate merit.

All of your criticisms are factually accurate, and I agree that these are the strongest negatives that Ripple has. I think the positives outweigh the negatives and that there are ways to mitigate all of these issues. But these are definitely fair points as Ripple currently stands. For many of them, my response would be -- wait and see.

If you agree then why do I still see "open" and "any currency" on Ripple's front page? How about "open (when we feel like it)" and "any kind of IOU"? Truth in advertising goes a long way.

While you're at it you could let us know why you tried so hard at the beginning to convince everyone that XRP wasn't a currency. It's almost as if you knew they'd treat you like every other pre-miner.

why?
wait and see.

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As it is debt, they can print as much as they want, when they want. (Aka debasing).

Sounds familiar Undecided

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Democracy is the original 51% attack

Ripple is not a scam, but my contentions with Ripple are the following:

Ultimately, competition in cryptocurrency land is good. I have great respect for the OpenCoin developers, and Ripple is certainly not a scam, but I remain unconvinced of the system's ultimate merit.

All of your criticisms are factually accurate, and I agree that these are the strongest negatives that Ripple has. I think the positives outweigh the negatives and that there are ways to mitigate all of these issues. But these are definitely fair points as Ripple currently stands. For many of them, my response would be -- wait and see.

I think that's a very fair response. I look forward to what you guys are doing.

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COINECT

Ripple is not a scam, but my contentions with Ripple are the following:

Ultimately, competition in cryptocurrency land is good. I have great respect for the OpenCoin developers, and Ripple is certainly not a scam, but I remain unconvinced of the system's ultimate merit.

All of your criticisms are factually accurate, and I agree that these are the strongest negatives that Ripple has. I think the positives outweigh the negatives and that there are ways to mitigate all of these issues. But these are definitely fair points as Ripple currently stands. For many of them, my response would be -- wait and see.

If you agree then why do I still see "open" and "any currency" on Ripple's front page? How about "open (when we feel like it)" and "any kind of IOU"? Truth in advertising goes a long way.

While you're at it you could let us know why you tried so hard at the beginning to convince everyone that XRP wasn't a currency. It's almost as if you knew they'd treat you like every other pre-miner.

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Democracy is vulnerable to a 51% attack.