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legendary
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Heisenberg
March 19, 2022, 04:18:55 PM
#10
13 years later, there are many thousands of shitcoins, most of which had some form of premine, made the creators bank and are still in control to a high degree. These shitecoins are worth millions and some even 100s of billions.
And how are the shitcoins satoshi's problem?

You might as well blame him for the Ponzi schemes that are using Bitcoin's success to lure in stupid and dumb investors

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Even a genius like Satoshi miscalculated the stupidity, ignorance and greed of the average person
Maybe you should read the white paper again: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

It seems to me you even don't know why Satoshi created Bitcoin.

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Do not ever forget, we live in a clown world.
I would be shocked if you are not one of them.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 06:56:08 AM
#9
Yoda... are you a mind reader now?

So you think you know what went on in the mind of one of the greatest people that ever lived? Have you ever read the Bitcoin White Paper? ...Also how many of Satoshi's posts have you read on this forum?

Satoshi reacted just like every other person would, that was angry at the time.... They lashed out in different ways, but Satoshi decided to challenge them (Banks & Governments) by inventing something that would serve as an alternative option to Fiat currencies.

Satoshi made so many good decisions with the future in mind, that it would be foolish of people like you to criticize him for the Alt coin phenomenon/Fiasco.  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
March 19, 2022, 06:54:20 AM
#8
Satoshi was naive at worst and plain dumb at worst.
No. Satoshi is smart and the world get benefit from Satoshi's initiative.

Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more.  Think of it as a donation to everyone.

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13 years later, there are many thousands of shitcoins, most of which had some form of premine, made the creators bank and are still in control to a high degree. These shitecoins are worth millions and some even 100s of billions.
Don't compare Bitcoin with shit coins or meme tokens. They are not at same levels so they are non-comparable.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 06:46:01 AM
#7
I can't tell if you are trolling, are sarcastic or serious. The tone is not being conveyed in text form.


He's trolling. Bitcoin would never be where it is currently if Satoshi had greed in the agenda for building the network. To truly be a success, it had to be bootstrapped by the community altruistically. It is always an open source project first, like Linux.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 03:53:06 AM
#6
The fact that one person* didnt premine and didnt spend what was mined
cements the fact that the vision of Satoshi was to the future, the goal was to make sure
Bitcoin would succeed , not consider a personal bank account, after all Bitcoin is not
a $hitcoin.

OP should stay in their dreams.

* Satoshi's identity has not been determined so the use of 'he' and 'himself'
is not accurate, kind of suits the thread OP.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 03:41:18 AM
#5
You're right. He's dumb. Not naive.

If he did it like the rest of shitcoins did, he wouldn't have created something new. Because plenty of other types of premined digital money existed before Bitcoin. So he's dumb if we think he disappeared and got nothing out of it.

He couldn't have been naive though.
sr. member
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March 19, 2022, 03:29:00 AM
#4
Bitcoin was the first popular cryptocurrency to achieve great success, but in its early days it was used among geeks and ideologues who didn't care much about money. Satoshi's idea was quite different - to give people a superior tool, and he succeeded. And then copies, shitcoins, and other rubbish started appearing, whose creators dreamed of getting rich.
sr. member
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March 19, 2022, 03:21:30 AM
#3
13 years later, there are many thousands of shitcoins, most of which had some form of premine, made the creators bank and are still in control to a high degree. These shitecoins are worth millions and some even 100s of billions.

Even a genius like Satoshi miscalculated the stupidity, ignorance and greed of the average person

Not so.

Without bitcoin leading the way, those shitcoins could never have gotten off the ground.

There were already shitcoins before bitcoin but none of them solved the decentralization problem (as well as the problem of how to create value from nothing), and eventually failed because their creators were shut-down. These shitcoins also have limited potential growth precisely because of their premine. Do you want a globally useful currency? You're going to have to give up some of that centralized ownership. No country is going to adopt a currency when they know a few individuals own tens of percents of it.

Bitcoin showed that it was possible. It took several years for bitcoin to become worth anything meaningful, and it's worth the most of any crypto. It would have taken a lot longer if Satoshi didn't allow people to mine at any time because no one would have trusted a known individual to not screw them in the long run. With a known individual, it also becomes easier to make a 'why not use visa/mastercard/paypal instead?' argument because that individual can be targeted to disrupt the currency.

The anonymity of bitcoin's creator also provides a support for shitcoins because the little pups can hide behind the big bull of the pack. They would be so much more easily adversely targeted without bitcoin existence.

Bitcoin also works and increases in value precisely because of the greed of the average person. The number goes up because the number goes up. Even with bitcoin, until some addresses have more distributed ownership, bitcoin will be limited in its highest growth potential. Arguably, this is also why shitcoins increase in value -- because of the greed of individuals -- but there has to be a buy-in+reward mechanism for later adopters or eventually you run out of investors. Most shitcoins don't have a consistent reward for later investors and have nothing close to guaranteeing it.

Besides, a large initial pump means nothing for long term success. Any form of currency has to demonstrate long term stability, which bitcoin dominates.

Learn the S-curve. Most shitcoins have fulfilled their S-curve. They may grow rapidly, but they can only do so once. You can argue about where bitcoin is in its S-curve, but it's definitely not at its top.
legendary
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March 19, 2022, 03:02:51 AM
#2
I can't tell if you are trolling, are sarcastic or serious. The tone is not being conveyed in text form.

In case you are serious is there is anyone thinking this way, I have to tell them that not everyone is doing everything for the "money". You don't necessarily have to be rich to not want money, one can be not-rich and still be content at the same time.
If you can't understand this, it means you are not and will never be content in your life even if you had all the money in the world.
newbie
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March 19, 2022, 02:50:52 AM
#1
I woke up today, completely lucid, with the following realization: Satoshi was naive at worst and plain dumb at worst.

Back in 2008/2009 when Satoshi created/launched Bitcoin, he made the decision to 1) Have no premine 2) Never spent any of the coins he minted. 3) Disappear to eradicate himself as the last form of 'authority'. His reasoning probably being that nobody in their right mind would buy into a crypto that was unfairly distributed from the beginning, of which its creators would stand to benefit most and was controlled by them. I think at this point, you realize where I'm going with this.

13 years later, there are many thousands of shitcoins, most of which had some form of premine, made the creators bank and are still in control to a high degree. These shitecoins are worth millions and some even 100s of billions.

Even a genius like Satoshi miscalculated the stupidity, ignorance and greed of the average person


Do not ever forget, we live in a clown world.


Cheers




favorite shitcoin meme: https://i.redd.it/wwsiw79sa4l81.jpg

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