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legendary
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Fuck off troll.

If you leave your lil' echo bubble where "ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS" and actually look at reality, you can see the Huffintonpost article is backed up by the numbers;

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

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i. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey, 2010-2014 (2015);

ii. Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Incident-Based Reporting System, 2012-2014 (2015);

iii. Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Incident-Based Reporting System, 2012-2014 (2015);

iv. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 (2013).

(This statistic combines information from several federal government reports. Because it combines data from studies with different methodologies, it is an approximation, not a scientific estimate. Please see the original sources for more detailed information. These statistics are updated annually and as new information is published.)

Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Rape and Sexual Victimization Among College-Aged Females, 1995-2013 (2014).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Crimes Against the Elderly, 2003-2013 (2014).
Department of Defense, Fiscal Year 2014 Annual Report on Sexual Assault in the Military (2015).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Female Victims of Sexual Violence, 1994-2010 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2013 (2014).

"BUT I DON'T TRUST THE DOJ'S SKEWED, LIBERAL NUMBERs" - TECSHARE

This is why you're a troll. You try to project something entirely unrelated onto the issue (illegal immigration, which technically, immigrants are less likely to be a criminal than the people already here... who'd thunk)?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/30/upshot/crime-immigration-myth.html

"BUT THE FAKE NEW YORK TIMES DOESN'T GIVE ANY EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE! IT DOESN'T CONFIRM MY VIEW POINT, SO IT'S FAKE NEWS!" - TECSHARE

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15377938.2016.1261057

Okay then, run some studies yourself instead of relying on hear-say and post contradictions to the evidence presented in the report.

"BUT THERE'S THERE'S THESE 5 INSTANCES WHERE ILLLEGAL IMMIGRANTS KILLED/RAPED/DID NAUGHTY" - TECSHARE

I'm pretty sure there's more instances of white nationaist group raping, murdering, doing much worse, see the RANN numbers.

People like you TECSHARE are the absolute fucking worst scumbags. Someone comes here with a valid thread and you spread misinformation and try to confuse the issue with absolute fucking lies without ANY empirical proof, yet you demand absolute proof for anything that the opposition says that counters any of your confirmation biased opinions.

Maybe if you'd actually check into the shit instead of just regurgitating what people tell you, you wouldn't be so retarded. But until you actually do the research for yourself, you're gonna remain at the mercy of your fake news, propaganda spreading, word-of-mouth, racist hill-billy friends.


Obviously you have very little argument based on your emotional response and your need to modify my words to make them fit your narrative of who you think I am (or what you want me to appear like). Love all the personal attacks too, they really help you get your argument across.


I am sure the illegal immigrants that make up ONE THIRD of our prison population because those people are law abiding citizens contributing to our community.

"The percentage of all federal prisoners who are criminal aliens has remained the same over the last 3 years--about 27 percent."
https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-05-337R



Do you have any idea why so many rapists are not prosecuted (other than a lack of reporting?) BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST FALSELY REPORTED CRIME

“a higher percentage of complaints of forcible rape are determined “unfounded” or found by investigation to be false, than for any other Index Crime. While the average of “unfounded” rates for all Crime Index offenses was 2% in 1997, 8 percent of the forcible rape complaints were “unfounded” for the same time frame.”
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/1997/97sec2.pdf Page 22, Subheading "Nature"

Note, 8% is when they could FACTUALLY PROVE the accused did not rape, not just when there wasn't enough evidence. I wonder how many more were false but could not be proven to be false, but considering about half of all accusations lack the evidence to bring the charge to court It could be quite considerable.  People like you like to pretend that women are some how above lying about such things. Women are humans. Humans lie to hurt and destroy other humans. That is what the courts and due process is for. You would however love to take the rights of due process for men and throw them out the window to make some liars happy, and send innocent men to prison where they will likely be raped for real. Sounds like justice to me!


I am looking through that mess of sources you shotgunned at me, and no where within it ANYWHERE do I see support for this insanely retarded "1 in 4 women on college campuses are raped" number, nor nothing that indicates to me a "rape culture". Women in the USA are the most free, privileged, and well treated than they EVER HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE IN HUMAN HISTORY, but you are right, "rape culture".

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Now you try. Pretty sure you didn't actually even read any of that which is why you didn't bother with page numbers. I find that is a tactic ignorant people like to use. They are too lazy to read and don't, then hope I am like them instead of supporting their argument by sourcing the exact statement by page rather than claiming multiple hundred of pages long reports are "the source". That wouldn't even cut it as a source in a high school essay.

P.S. Try skipping the "you are a sexist racist bigot" spiel, it just makes you look like a frothing loon responding like that when I am just providing facts you don't agree with. Or don't, that is why conservatives are winning so keep it up for all I care.




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Well 99% of rapists walk free in the US

Have you ever attended school in the US?  If so, you would know a lot of rapists and rape victims as around 1 in 4 college femaies are sexually assaulted.  Most people who have wouldn't hesitate to question the existence of rape culture.  Especially if you have been in a frat or to a frat party.

Here is a good place to start as far as evidence
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/georgia-tech-frat-email-rapebait_n_4063101.html


Not seeing any empirical data here. Lol Huffington Post. Oh so its 1 in 4 now? Tomorrow it will be 8 out of 4 women will be raped every 60 seconds. That statistic has been destroyed over an over again as being complete horse shit. The rape rates aren't even that high in war zones. BTW its spelled "females".

Fuck off troll.

If you leave your lil' echo bubble where "ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE CRIMINALS" and actually look at reality, you can see the Huffintonpost article is backed up by the numbers;

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

Quote
i. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victimization Survey, 2010-2014 (2015);

ii. Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Incident-Based Reporting System, 2012-2014 (2015);

iii. Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Incident-Based Reporting System, 2012-2014 (2015);

iv. Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 (2013).

(This statistic combines information from several federal government reports. Because it combines data from studies with different methodologies, it is an approximation, not a scientific estimate. Please see the original sources for more detailed information. These statistics are updated annually and as new information is published.)

Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Rape and Sexual Victimization Among College-Aged Females, 1995-2013 (2014).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Crimes Against the Elderly, 2003-2013 (2014).
Department of Defense, Fiscal Year 2014 Annual Report on Sexual Assault in the Military (2015).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Female Victims of Sexual Violence, 1994-2010 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Felony Defendants in Large Urban Counties, 2009 (2013).
Department of Justice, Office of Justice Programs, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prisoners in 2013 (2014).

"BUT I DON'T TRUST THE DOJ'S SKEWED, LIBERAL NUMBERs" - TECSHARE

This is why you're a troll. You try to project something entirely unrelated onto the issue (illegal immigration, which technically, immigrants are less likely to be a criminal than the people already here... who'd thunk)?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/30/upshot/crime-immigration-myth.html

"BUT THE FAKE NEW YORK TIMES DOESN'T GIVE ANY EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE! IT DOESN'T CONFIRM MY VIEW POINT, SO IT'S FAKE NEWS!" - TECSHARE

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15377938.2016.1261057

Okay then, run some studies yourself instead of relying on hear-say and post contradictions to the evidence presented in the report.

"BUT THERE'S THERE'S THESE 5 INSTANCES WHERE ILLLEGAL IMMIGRANTS KILLED/RAPED/DID NAUGHTY" - TECSHARE

I'm pretty sure there's more instances of white nationaist group raping, murdering, doing much worse, see the RANN numbers.

People like you TECSHARE are the absolute fucking worst scumbags. Someone comes here with a valid thread and you spread misinformation and try to confuse the issue with absolute fucking lies without ANY empirical proof, yet you demand absolute proof for anything that the opposition says that counters any of your confirmation biased opinions.

Maybe if you'd actually check into the shit instead of just regurgitating what people tell you, you wouldn't be so retarded. But until you actually do the research for yourself, you're gonna remain at the mercy of your fake news, propaganda spreading, word-of-mouth, racist hill-billy friends.
legendary
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Whataboutism at its finest
Not at all. On the contrary it's focusing on where there are rape cultures.

Hint: (It's not in the USA or Europe)

Add to the list of places with rape cultures India.
legendary
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October 07, 2018, 06:05:23 AM
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Well 99% of rapists walk free in the US

Have you ever attended school in the US?  If so, you would know a lot of rapists and rape victims as around 1 in 4 college femaies are sexually assaulted.  Most people who have wouldn't hesitate to question the existence of rape culture.  Especially if you have been in a frat or to a frat party.

Here is a good place to start as far as evidence
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/georgia-tech-frat-email-rapebait_n_4063101.html


Not seeing any empirical data here. Lol Huffington Post. Oh so its 1 in 4 now? Tomorrow it will be 8 out of 4 women will be raped every 60 seconds. That statistic has been destroyed over an over again as being complete horse shit. The rape rates aren't even that high in war zones. BTW its spelled "females".
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@cryptocommies
October 07, 2018, 04:48:39 AM
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Well 99% of rapists walk free in the US

Have you ever attended school in the US?  If so, you would know a lot of rapists and rape victims as around 1 in 4 college femaies are sexually assaulted.  Most people who have wouldn't hesitate to question the existence of rape culture.  Especially if you have been in a frat or to a frat party.

Here is a good place to start as far as evidence
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/08/georgia-tech-frat-email-rapebait_n_4063101.html
legendary
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October 07, 2018, 03:10:05 AM
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Society is responsible for societal problems.   Rape is not rare, its a cultural thing.  Rape culture is something akin to systemic racism that all men (and some women) play a role in the way we establish our social norms, talk to our friends about women, and the things we hear/see, but don't speak up about.  We all need to do more to end rape culture.

There is NO SUCH THING as "rape culture" in Western industrialized nations, unless of course imported via illegal immigration. I would love to see your EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that "rape culture" exists in the USA for example. Should be good for a few laughs. 
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@cryptocommies
October 07, 2018, 12:01:32 AM
#6
Whataboutism at its finest
legendary
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October 06, 2018, 11:39:59 PM
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Society is responsible for societal problems.   Rape is not rare, its a cultural thing.  Rape culture is something akin to systemic racism that all men (and some women) play a role in the way we establish our social norms, talk to our friends about women, and the things we hear/see, but don't speak up about.  We all need to do more to end rape culture.

Then you go end rape cultures in the Islamic nations, and in Africa, and in the Middle East, where they predominate.
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@cryptocommies
October 06, 2018, 10:23:32 PM
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Society is responsible for societal problems.   Rape is not rare, its a cultural thing.  Rape culture is something akin to systemic racism that all men (and some women) play a role in the way we establish our social norms, talk to our friends about women, and the things we hear/see, but don't speak up about.  We all need to do more to end rape culture.
legendary
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October 06, 2018, 04:31:12 AM
#3
Collective punishment is a common tactic of Marxism/Communism. I am sure it is just a coincidence the target is fighting age males.
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October 05, 2018, 09:15:17 PM
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How about we just not sexually assault anyone, alright? Consent is pretty simple stuff.  Roll Eyes
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October 05, 2018, 08:29:07 PM
#1
Rape is a crime. Yes, it is committed mostly by men. It still doesn't make it the responsibility of all men to address rape.
How about the mothers who raise entitled boys?
How is it that we do not remind mothers to groom better men?
Or tell wives to report the pedophiles they call husbands?
And while we are at it, can women stop saying .."I have to protect myself (from rape)"...as if it is a terrible thing to be responsible for youer own protection.It is your own job to protect yourself just as we protect our property.So yes we should protect ourselves from rapists.Yes it is what we should do, it is not a terrible thing to protect ourselves.
Its cute and all that to stay out till 1am walking the streets with a few of your colleague girls.But you may bump into a rapist on the way.It is not the fault of any other man, neither is it your fault too.But if you are moving with the knowledge and wisdom of the times, you would know that it  is not cool walking the streets at that time f the night without at least protection without society recognizing its failure in grooming responsible people(both the victim and the culprit).
Don't talk to random men who have no business with rape.
Talk to women who have pedophiles as husbands and keep covering their tracks .
Then talk to mothers who wouldn't let an arrest be made when her son rapes a neighbor.
It is highly unusual to find a father protecting a rapist son.
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