Why should Gambling be legalized ? - page 2.

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 29, 2021, 11:40:08 AM

- It can help in Job creation as well, since it's a big industry and people would be more engaged

This is by far the best reason for me why gambling should be legalized. It can create more jobs and increase the employment rate in a certain country. Since then, one of the biggest problems that any country is facing is the worst unemployment rate. Since the gambling industry is vast, imagine how many people can be benefited from the legalization of gambling whether it's from small gambling operators or large.

I think the point of "creating jobs" as being a positive energy is not deep enough
with the raise of AI lots of jobs will be destroyed and new ones will be created

we don't simply need jobs if they are empty and have no meaning, finding purpose could go much deeper

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In his first post, the OP listed many arguments for legalizing gambling. I would like to note that, of course, taxes from gambling casinos will increase and jobs will also appear. And many other positive things will arise from this.
But I myself am not a supporter of the full legalization of gambling for the reason that if they become 100% legal, the time spent by the players at the game will immediately increase. Cash flows will increase. People will be distracted from their main job, a lot of people will fall ill with gambling addiction. The entire community in such a country can only suffer from this. This is why I am not a supporter of legalization

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Quote from: Shamm on December 31, 2021, 07:53:29 AM

In the world of gambling, there are many things, that we can get some are bad some are good.
If you are a normal gambler and play in any gambling site you can enhance your mental health and reduce stress and also you will forget your problem sometimes if you win the game.
You can make friends by socializing with some gamblers.
But the bad benefits are if you can not control yourself you will take away to gamble even if you do not have extra money and also you are one of those gambling addict.

Most of the time, the bad sides affect every gambler,

the good side in long time playing will end up a disaster, this enjoyment part is also risky. People tend to push ahead
when they are winning.

And everything will start from there, though if you can control and yes, that will release some stress and let you feel the
entertaining part of this venue, nonetheless, it's all about how you handle your participation.

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In the world of gambling, there are many things, that we can get some are bad some are good.
If you are a normal gambler and play in any gambling site you can enhance your mental health and reduce stress and also you will forget your problem sometimes if you win the game.
You can make friends by socializing with some gamblers.
But the bad benefits are if you can not control yourself you will take away to gamble even if you do not have extra money and also you are one of those gambling addict.

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 29, 2021, 11:40:08 AM

What else do you think could be the benefits ??

The obvious reason is for revenue as everyone has said, but another perspective is the medical benefits that gambling can provide in the sense of relaxation and stress reduction for people. More people are stressed from working or thinking overtime due to difficult economic situations, some turn to gambling as a way to free themselves from the day's stress, as a way to have fun and maybe make some money in the process. The government from analysis can ascertain this, so legalizing it and setting regulations to ensure that your citizens get the relaxation they seek is in the right direction. The more of relaxation people get, the more productive they become when it is time for work, so that's another reason to me.

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 29, 2021, 11:40:08 AM

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There can be other social benefits during the time of Covid where people have to supposedly entertain themselves at their own homes and they won't have to visit casinos in person.

What else do you think could be the benefits ??

Other than financial advantages, legalizing gambling can bring so much revenue to a country.

By basing it purely on facts, in the Philippines, the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) contributed 3rd in brining the most revenue in the country yearly. From this fact alone, it can be seen that gambling establishments can bring revenue which may in turn, benefit the society in the future. The problem is on how you draw the line between morality and acceptance.

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Quote from: davis196 on December 31, 2021, 02:32:48 AM

You are free to waste your money anywhere you want.This is an important part of freedom. Grin

The main benefit of gambling legalization is supposed to be keeping the mobsters and loan sharks away from this industry.
However,I'm not sure how the mobsters and loan sharks would stay away,since they could create legal businesses and still run casinos.
This is the same question as "Why should prostitution be legalized?"
There's no way that prostitution will be totally banned.This "industry" will continue to exist forever and it would be better,if the governments are regulating it,rather than trying to oppress it.

This is yet another proof that when officials get involved in some area with bans, they end up doing it even worse. The most exaggerated case of such prohibitions is in the past of my country, when the communist government prohibited any "wage" labor as it was considered exploitation. At the same time, only one employer remained in the country - the government itself.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 31, 2021, 04:54:16 AM

Prostitution is the oldest craft, there's no way it can be totally banned, and some countries are trying that... the same is with gambling and drugs! We should be free to do what we want with our money and body!

Making something illegal just creates greater desire to pursue that illegal activity.

A friend of mine had an apartment that he rented out to students. One girl who lived in it proposed after a while that they change the original agreement. He found her very attractive and she noticed it. One day she proposed three scenarios: She says: I can continue paying rent as we originally agreed. Or I pay 50% of the original fee, and we have sex a couple of times each month. The third option would be having sex a couple of more times for no rent at all. That's prostitution for you. Good luck to governments trying to control that. Roll Eyes

She caught him off guard because he didn't expect it and never before got such an offer. I am not going to tell which option he chose and if I "helped" in any way. Use your imagination.

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High taxes will definitely be the one that could help the economy of one government by legalizing it. The number of gamblers now is increasing due to the pandemic and it won't stop there even if all of this goes away.
Charities. That's another reason for it. Casinos don't want their businesses just painted black. They want to put a little bit of light in their darkness by doing charitable deeds. It can help the community think they are not that bad and be supportive with them.

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There are many reasons but I think the main reason is tax.

There are many countries around the world that has casinos that are registered like in our country. In our country, there are casinos that are registered and they are operating legally. I mean I don't see anything wrong with illegalizing casinos aside from the fact that most of the time, it causes negative effects to the gamblers and if we will on that perspective the casino has nothing to do with the after effects of the gambler since they didn't persuade him/her to play but he/she went there and gambled. One thing more is that governments are benefitting on casinos because they are paying high taxes so if you are the government, why would you illegalize an industry that gives you high taxes right?

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Quote from: davis196 on December 31, 2021, 02:32:48 AM

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Therefore, the main plus that I see in the legalization of gambling is that it does not restrict the freedom of people.

You are free to waste your money anywhere you want.This is an important part of freedom. Grin

The main benefit of gambling legalization is supposed to be keeping the mobsters and loan sharks away from this industry.
However,I'm not sure how the mobsters and loan sharks would stay away,since they could create legal businesses and still run casinos.
This is the same question as "Why should prostitution be legalized?"
There's no way that prostitution will be totally banned.This "industry" will continue to exist forever and it would be better,if the governments are regulating it,rather than trying to oppress it.

Prostitution is the oldest craft, there's no way it can be totally banned, and some countries are trying that... the same is with gambling and drugs! We should be free to do what we want with our money and body! That should be an important part of freedom... but many countries keep these 3 things in the dark and all people who are doing one of these 3 things in the wrong country can get jail time!
All 3 things should be legalized and decriminalized like it's the case with some countries already! People should be free and live normal lives, without hiding even they are not doing anything really bad!
In the end, if we take a look entire situation from the start, these 3 things are around since the world exist and they are here to stay! Making them illegal is probably one of the worst decisions ever made... the result is too many nonviolent people are sitting in jails!

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 29, 2021, 06:18:40 PM

Legalizing gambling will have a bad effect on society. It is still considered bad to gamble, also with gambling the rich will become richer and the poor will become poorer. If tax benefit was the main benefit then the government would get more benefits by regulating drugs and prostitution. Jobs can be created in other ways too not everyone would like to work for a Casino. There would be illegal activities after legalizing gambling too. These casinos will do anything to lure new clients for which they might even start offering illegal drugs. This is a debatable topic and I still believe that gambling should not be legalized.

The main problem that even without legalization there a lot of people who will gamble. But without proper control and taxes.
To avoid bad influence on society you need to improve social stuff of the country, like medicine, education, average salary and so on. Not by prohobiting gambling and casinos.

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Therefore, the main plus that I see in the legalization of gambling is that it does not restrict the freedom of people.

You are free to waste your money anywhere you want.This is an important part of freedom. Grin

The main benefit of gambling legalization is supposed to be keeping the mobsters and loan sharks away from this industry.
However,I'm not sure how the mobsters and loan sharks would stay away,since they could create legal businesses and still run casinos.
This is the same question as "Why should prostitution be legalized?"
There's no way that prostitution will be totally banned.This "industry" will continue to exist forever and it would be better,if the governments are regulating it,rather than trying to oppress it.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 30, 2021, 09:22:41 PM

Things will now depend on prioritization by the government. Which has more weight, that there will be a significant amount of revenue that the government could earn from gambling operations or that there will be a rise in addiction and individuals who need professional treatment? What is more important to the government, money or people? The trend happening now in developed countries especially in Europe is that gambling regulations are now becoming more strict than ever.

The government will consider that money is more important for them as they still need money to run the economy after the Covid attack. But they also need to think about their people and the impact of legalising gambling for their country because that can trigger another problem that will not be easy to solve. The chances for gambling to get legalized are still wide open, especially in a country that prohibited gambling before. But it will not happen too fast as we expect because the government will discuss this with all of their staff.

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I think in the original post the order of actions is confused. In democratic societies, everything that is not prohibited is allowed, therefore, if we talk about legalization, then first we must understand why gambling was prohibited.
I understand this sentence:

Quote from: fiulpro on December 29, 2021, 11:40:08 AM

{This does not exclude the cons as well, but let's discuss about the pros here}

But I do not like to prove that some phenomenon has positive aspects in order for it to be allowed, since I believe that everything that is not prohibited is allowed. Therefore, the main plus that I see in the legalization of gambling is that it does not restrict the freedom of people.

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I think the right question is "Why would Gambling be Illegalized "?

When they can just put places in each country to designate as gambling places? make gambling illegal in other states but designating some for gamblers.

this will help both , the government and the gamblers also and of course the Tourism that brings more taxes even for the government.,

Let alone those religiously banning gambling because it is their rights, but allocating areas will serve as best way to deal on both sides.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 30, 2021, 12:19:39 AM

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Gambling is already legal in majority of the countries around the world. It is only suppressed on the basis of illegal operations. Gambling is regulated. There are rules and policies that gambling operators should observe. Operating without a license for example will be illegal. Another instance in which gambling is illegal is when it involves minors. Gambling is only offered to people of legal age.

But since gambling has also its own negative effects, it is expected that there will also be a part of society that is against it. After all, gambling is basically a vice. And it could damage an individual or a family.

Like what OP mentioned, a gambler will always be a gambler, and any laws and regulations that a government will be going to implement to suspend gambling activities will most like not to be effective because they will always find a way to gamble, and that's where illegal gambling takes place. However, we should always consider the possible effect of legalizing gambling because it is expected negative effects will most likely going to happen like gambling addiction. But in terms of revenue that gambling can contribute to the country it is undoubtedly a big help indeed.

Things will now depend on prioritization by the government. Which has more weight, that there will be a significant amount of revenue that the government could earn from gambling operations or that there will be a rise in addiction and individuals who need professional treatment? What is more important to the government, money or people? The trend happening now in developed countries especially in Europe is that gambling regulations are now becoming more strict than ever.

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 29, 2021, 11:40:08 AM

What else do you think could be the benefits ??

Like illicit drugs, gambling exists everywhere, and legalizing is best for everyone...
The government has the possibility to raise a lot of money;
The people don't have to go underground and take unnecessary risks.
And de entrepreneurs can act freely without hiding from the authorities, as long as they respect the rules.

I honestly don't see negative points and I think it's absurd that there are still countries (like Brazil, where I live) that prohibit gambling.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on December 30, 2021, 05:40:27 PM

Why do I support legalizing gambling, because gambling is very difficult to stop. Many countries prohibit gambling, but in the end the population
can still carry out gambling activities, even if it is done in secret. My point is why not gambling just legalized and regulated, so the government
can benefit from the gambling industry. Because in the end whether it's forbidden or not, gambling activity is always present in any country.
There will always be pros and cons when it comes to the gambling industry, but now the whole country is experiencing the problem of economic crisis.
So the government must think realistically and consider legalizing gambling, because it is proven in several countries that legalize gambling,
could help the country's economy through substantial tax revenues from the gambling industry.

Yes, gambling will always proliferate no matter what. It has been here for centuries already and will always be a part of humanity. So why not make it legal so government can benefit from the taxes? Because if you will just ban or prohibit these people from gambling, they will just go underground and others will benefit from it. I am certain, those countries having total ban in gambling have some of their citizens resorting to underground or black market.

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I am not sure that this is good or not, but in my country, it will not happen.
This is not only related to economy or financial systems, but also about religion. In some countries it till relates to the religion.
And gambling has always positive and negative sides.
Gambling will of course gives high takes and income for countries, of course it will moreover if both online and offline gambling sites are taxed. And of course they will give much money to the countries. However, it seems not as simple like that.
Even they are legalized, it doesn't mean to always give additional financial system positively. Because it means that gambling will be very where and not all people can manage himself to gamble. I know that it will depend on each personal when gambling, how they manage the funds and also emotion to gambling in order to not become a gambler addiction.
Although right now, even gambling is prohibited, many people can still do gambling wherever and whenever, both online and offline.

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