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Quote from: beafheart on November 09, 2016, 04:13:02 PM

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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

Totally agree with you. Integration of migrants will contribute to the development of the economy of the country in which they live and work.

IF they choose to integrate and work actually, but most of them are going to UK, Germany, Swe, just because of benefits. if they we're fighting isis like they were fighting border patrols to get in one country, they could have do something, but I guess islam and homeland is not important when some other country is giving out free benefits.

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Quote from: boybugs18 on November 11, 2016, 01:38:12 PM

I don't know why Muslim country doesn't accept refugees from Syria even if they have the same religion? they are now being fed by the government who give them asylum and now they are lucky as of now having big chance of getting a new citizenship. Not being a racist just saying "life is unfair" .

They aint giving out social benefits like Germany or UK.

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The main reason why people leave a country is because they have problems in the country they live in.
When people go to another country to live there and behave like they still were in their old country, nothing changes for them.
And then migrating makes no sense. If you want change, you have to change yourself as well.

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I don't know why Muslim country doesn't accept refugees from Syria even if they have the same religion? they are now being fed by the government who give them asylum and now they are lucky as of now having big chance of getting a new citizenship. Not being a racist just saying "life is unfair" .

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They struggle to integrate because they do not want to integrate.

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Quote from: LilibethSantos on November 09, 2016, 04:39:05 PM

Integration is difficult and will never be 100% perfect for immigrants. At the very least, they should mind their own business and be respectful to their new home country.

I think that for integration it is necessary to consider religion. Muslims are very difficult to integrate into Christian society.

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What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

Totally agree with you. Integration of migrants will contribute to the development of the economy of the country in which they live and work.

They can contribute on the both countries, the country they lived by sending money to any family member or relatives, and the country they actually live by paying taxes and other things. Maybe they become richer but not as much happy as they were in the country they left.

There is a different country. I think that the person loves the country in which to live and which will live well by his children. In many countries problems even with food.

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Quote from: beafheart on November 09, 2016, 04:13:02 PM

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Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

Totally agree with you. Integration of migrants will contribute to the development of the economy of the country in which they live and work.

They can contribute on the both countries, the country they lived by sending money to any family member or relatives, and the country they actually live by paying taxes and other things. Maybe they become richer but not as much happy as they were in the country they left.

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Integration is difficult and will never be 100% perfect for immigrants. At the very least, they should mind their own business and be respectful to their new home country.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

Totally agree with you. Integration of migrants will contribute to the development of the economy of the country in which they live and work.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Put yourself in their shoes and you will understand what they face everyday, I think they should be integrated to the new country, new community and should learn the new culture, the country they left will not be the same with the country they go to and they should accept the reality.

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Quote from: 20kevin20 on November 08, 2016, 01:01:19 AM

How would we be able to live without having them integrated in our country? A migrant that doesn't integrate means many disadvantages for us. They would then not agree with our ideas, will do whatever they want and so on. I mean the exact scenario that can be seen right now in Germany.

There are completely different migrants. If migrants like as it is done in Germany, it can bring great harm to the country. And if they are hiring where you do not want to go to work local then it could be useful.

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I also think that immigrants who do not want to integrate into the society of the country in which they reside constitute a danger to society and should be expelled from the country.

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Quote from: dirokkl on November 08, 2016, 06:48:52 AM

I believe that all people should be integrated into the society in which they live. If not then there will be problems. And migrants are no exception.

For a comfortable life need adaptation to most. If you are unable to perceive the principles of majority you have no chance to live in society. Albinos do not like.

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I believe that all people should be integrated into the society in which they live. If not then there will be problems. And migrants are no exception.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

What does it even means to "integrate"? And why should they? Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

They are not obligated to integrate. That is the problem of the host countries and their elected governments.

Muslims should be allowed to establish Sharia Law, rape women, cut people's arms and heads, stone people to death, kill all gays and atheists, and all other non-Muslims in their host countries. That is what they do in their homelands.

They were accepted as Muslims and the host countries should have understood that before accepting them.

So next time you go to vote, make sure you vote for the government that will protect your country.

A typical example of incitement to ethnic hatred. First not all Muslim countries live under Sharia law, and secondly calm down Trump lost the election.

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Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Quote from: Masha Sha on November 05, 2016, 09:49:40 AM

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition.

You talk about forcing others to accept your belief but then you talk about free will. You must pick one or the other as your basis.

No no! It is only in self defense.

It isn't self defense if you are going to their home and trying to force your ideology on the inhabitants.

When did I wrote that I was doing it?

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How would we be able to live without having them integrated in our country? A migrant that doesn't integrate means many disadvantages for us. They would then not agree with our ideas, will do whatever they want and so on. I mean the exact scenario that can be seen right now in Germany.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on November 08, 2016, 12:50:15 AM

Quote from: CryptoDatabase on November 07, 2016, 04:30:43 PM

Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Quote from: Masha Sha on November 05, 2016, 09:49:40 AM

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition.

You talk about forcing others to accept your belief but then you talk about free will. You must pick one or the other as your basis.

No no! It is only in self defense.

It isn't self defense if you are going to their home and trying to force your ideology on the inhabitants.

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Quote from: CryptoDatabase on November 07, 2016, 04:30:43 PM

Quote from: Masha Sha on November 04, 2016, 12:47:42 PM

Why not impose their cultures, values and way of life on their hosts?

Quote from: Masha Sha on November 05, 2016, 09:49:40 AM

The adoption of free will and informed consent excludes a lot of culture by definition.

You talk about forcing others to accept your belief but then you talk about free will. You must pick one or the other as your basis.

No no! It is only in self defense.

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