Why the forum keep deleting my old posts?

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 17, 2023, 10:53:07 AM

If you are receiving PMs about the deleted posts then someone is reporting your posts and mod agree with it. Result is they are deleting the reported posts. If you are not receiving any PM but checking your posts are deleted then it's the topics you left responses. When a topic gets deleted it deletes your responses too but the difference is you do not receive any notification. Someone is reporting the topics here too.

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Can a mod verify all my posts and delete all the ones that should be deleted?

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
I think this is the page you look for the deleted posts/topics.

Truly learn everyday, I wouldn't have known about this if I had not come across your reply. Used to think one's post can only be deleted for Spamming.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 18, 2023, 03:55:09 PM

I have noticed the same thing in the last 10-15 days, but I didn't check what was deleted and what threads were trashed. Since I didn't receive any PMs, I just figured that whole threads by some other members got trashed affecting the occasional posts I wrote there. But I only had 3 or 4 posts deleted if my memory serves me right.

Yeah, I noticed it too, 3 or 4 my post got deleted and I have no idea which ones exactly got deleted. Probably I wouldn't had noticed it, but now I'm getting very close from making my 10 000 post and then I got few posts more far away from making it.
It didn't happened for the first time, i past I also noticed same things few times. I also guess that just some old spam megathread got trashed.

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I have noticed the same thing in the last 10-15 days, but I didn't check what was deleted and what threads were trashed. Since I didn't receive any PMs, I just figured that whole threads by some other members got trashed affecting the occasional posts I wrote there. But I only had 3 or 4 posts deleted if my memory serves me right.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 18, 2023, 03:11:13 PM

It just matters if a moderator has directly clicked the delete button on one of your posts, as opposed to removing a thread, where you wouldn't get a notification.

You mean if mods don't click the delete button but the post is considered as removed/hidden, then mods just use move button to the trashcan?
Also why this is not added in the modlog when the post is considered as deleted/removed, this may help other bots such as tryninja's to notify users when post/topic are trashed since there's no notification via PM happens.

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This is probably a common occurrence for most forum users. From my experience it's generally ongoing megathreads that get deleted to threads that were made years ago, and for whatever reason have only been discovered now, and break the rules.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 17, 2023, 10:53:07 AM

If you are receiving PMs about the deleted posts then someone is reporting your posts and mod agree with it. Result is they are deleting the reported posts. If you are not receiving any PM but checking your posts are deleted then it's the topics you left responses. When a topic gets deleted it deletes your responses too but the difference is you do not receive any notification. Someone is reporting the topics here too.

Just to clarify things; I don't think it requires the post being reported to be send a notification to a user via their personal messages. It just matters if a moderator has directly clicked the delete button on one of your posts, as opposed to removing a thread, where you wouldn't get a notification.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 18, 2023, 01:33:12 PM

As other users mentioned, the post should be gone with deleted threads and that's why I didn't get the personal message by the mods.

It has to be true, and that's how it has always been when the thread was deleted by mod.
There's nothing we can do about it so far, but avoiding newbie thread especially pointless or uninteresting thread is a great way to maintain your post count.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 18, 2023, 01:33:12 PM

I have some questions now about the activity, Is that number affected by the deleted posts too? or in some scenarios a user can have 900 posts and 1000 activity?

Same by DdmrDdmr response, the activity count will be affected by significant reduction in the number of posts. But for relatively low numbers, it won't matter.

You can also read more details here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177

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Can activity or my rank decrease?

Yes. It can only decrease if you have all the posts you made from a particular period deleted or the threads you posted in trashcanned. If you do it's possible to drop rank until you have enough activity again.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 18, 2023, 01:33:12 PM

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Not only can it affect Activity, but also Rank (see this list of de-ranked accounts).

I’m not 100% certain about the algorithm, but I figure that Activity is decreased in the exact reverse manner as when it is increased, with all its little twists used in the counting prodecure.

There are no merited accounts with Activity>Posts, but there are 31.301 merited accounts with the same count on both counters (besides those that have not been merited, which I do not track).

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OP, you have to be careful about whether the topic to which you are replying is plagiarism or not. And also, answering a topic where the author simply copied the news and added a link is not always useful. Such posts will most often also be deleted by moderators, as they do not carry any value and are simply copied and pasted.

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 18, 2023, 09:17:35 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 17, 2023, 10:43:05 AM

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Out of the 7.011 posts that have been scraped on the following site:
https://loyce.club/archive/members/33/334783.html

213 posts of your posts have been historically deleted (I believe) because they were part of deleted threads:

You can take a look at the content of the delete posts in Ninjastic & LoyceClub, either by postId or by threadId, but all in all, it will give you a glimpse at what has been deleted, though not why the thread was deleted (nor when).

Awesome answer DdmrDdmr, thanks for such useful information, a big +1 for you!

As other users mentioned, the post should be gone with deleted threads and that's why I didn't get the personal message by the mods.

But this means it will keep happening and there is nothing I can do about it.

I have some questions now about the activity, Is that number affected by the deleted posts too? or in some scenarios a user can have 900 posts and 1000 activity?

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on January 18, 2023, 09:17:35 AM

You can take a look at the content of the delete posts in Ninjastic & LoyceClub, either by postId or by threadId, but all in all, it will give you a glimpse at what has been deleted, though not why the thread was deleted (nor when).

Right we can only see the deleted posts not the reason as when your post is deleted you receive notification about it and it's mainly because it was reported to the moderator and deemed to be of low quality or spam post.The reason is just limited to the moderators who take the action.

Quote from: Xal0lex on January 17, 2023, 04:07:28 PM

Recently the forum has been attacked by bot farms that post topics and posts with links to malicious software.

Yeah have seen lot of such threads lately by the newbies trying to spam posting on the forum with such links and also thought about such newbie bots indulging in creating such threads to get some victims on the forum.So it's clear now if someone has made post in those topics it was also deleted to keep forum spam free from such threads.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 17, 2023, 10:43:05 AM

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Out of the 7.011 posts that have been scraped on the following site:
https://loyce.club/archive/members/33/334783.html

213 posts of your posts have been historically deleted (I believe) because they were part of deleted threads:

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176897.msg52206068#msg52206068
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175278.msg52155200#msg52155200
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175057.msg52218191#msg52218191
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5174198.msg52140668#msg52140668
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5174167.msg52125526#msg52125526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173053.msg52083141#msg52083141
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169224.msg51962344#msg51962344
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169087.msg52216282#msg52216282
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168094.msg51925238#msg51925238
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168094.msg51924975#msg51924975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167489.msg51904101#msg51904101
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5164362.msg51925819#msg51925819
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159715.msg51663590#msg51663590
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147630.msg51238938#msg51238938
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061613.msg47502934#msg47502934
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4532143.msg41032996#msg41032996
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4532143.msg40847003#msg40847003
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3328783.msg34839343#msg34839343
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3314787.msg34619093#msg34619093
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3272219.msg34156051#msg34156051
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3075955.msg31710781#msg31710781
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3028680.msg31205144#msg31205144
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2598959.msg47154577#msg47154577
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2360069.msg30622167#msg30622167

Now we can’t tell at which moment in time the thread deletions occurred, though at least the most recent entry (top one) in the above table does figure in the modlog:

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You can take a look at the content of the delete posts in Ninjastic & LoyceClub, either by postId or by threadId, but all in all, it will give you a glimpse at what has been deleted, though not why the thread was deleted (nor when).

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Quote from: Xal0lex on January 17, 2023, 04:07:28 PM

Recently the forum has been attacked by bot farms that post topics and posts with links to malicious software. Most of the bot farms are made up of newbies. And since global moderators cannot physically keep track of all these newbies to ban these bots, the regular moderators just nuke them. Some of the newbies have previously created threads. Since this bot isn't just banned, but is nuked, everything he wrote earlier is deleted completely. It's quite possible that your posts were in those threads and deleted along with them. And it doesn't just apply to your posts.

I was thinking about the reasons why I got mine deleted too and I'm just certainly convinced with this -- so at a point, I thought that my post weren't getting the desired standards? But how's that supposed to be true? Meanwhile, I know how much time I dedicate on every post I make But in turns, it began to seem like nothing much was done.
I've regained every lost courage; maybe apart from the fact that I'm not really that technically inclined, but for every session of encouragement and creativity -- has gone way too crucial yunno.

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Quote from: joker_josue on January 17, 2023, 04:20:56 PM

I was looking at the modlog and noticed that the first entry is from 2020.
That means it has a record of all posts deleted since that time. And is there a record behind it, or does it just keep the information for two years?

No. Modlog keeps the record of moderators acts (deleting posts/topics and banning users) in the past 7 days and any data older than 7 days is removed.
The post/topic you are referring to had been made in 2020 and was deleted sometime in the past 7 days.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on January 17, 2023, 10:53:07 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
I think this is the page you look for the deleted posts/topics.

I was looking at the modlog and noticed that the first entry is from 2020.
That means it has a record of all posts deleted since that time. And is there a record behind it, or does it just keep the information for two years?

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Recently the forum has been attacked by bot farms that post topics and posts with links to malicious software. Most of the bot farms are made up of newbies. And since global moderators cannot physically keep track of all these newbies to ban these bots, the regular moderators just nuke them. Some of the newbies have previously created threads. Since this bot isn't just banned, but is nuked, everything he wrote earlier is deleted completely. It's quite possible that your posts were in those threads and deleted along with them. And it doesn't just apply to your posts.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 17, 2023, 11:16:29 AM

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Every time I see a user posting scams or malware I try to warn the community, and maybe those are the post that are getting deleted, I will be more careful about the threads where I post in the future, and better than warning the community I will direct report the threads to the moderators.

This is probably something that can help you avoid such situations, but you will never be able to avoid that from time to time some of your posts will be deleted. Of course, this does not have to be directly related to your posts, but to the fact that, regardless of the quality of your posts, some threads turn into a shitposting show over time.

In addition, most of us old members were not even close to what we are today when we registered on this forum, so everyone's post history certainly contains posts that could be considered low quality, spam or repetitive posts - but there is no point in going that way far back and report such a post.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on January 17, 2023, 11:16:29 AM

Thanks for your answers guys, as you say, I didn't get a notification about the deleted post, so, it should be from old threads getting deleted.

Since your userid was not found in modlog it must have been a case of a topic being deleted and your reply along with it. But it is also good to note that if your own thread gets trashed you would not get any Pm about the deletion as well.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 17, 2023, 11:16:29 AM

Every time I see a user posting scams or malware I try to warn the community, and maybe those are the post that are getting deleted, I will be more careful about the threads where I post in the future, and better than warning the community I will direct report the threads to the moderators.

It is still good to warn as there may be a delay before the moderators take action and someone can fall victim.#within that intervening period.
One or two deleted posts does not mater much really.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on January 17, 2023, 11:20:57 AM

I've never needed to remove my own topics, but I've always seen the Delete button on my posts, even if they were topic starters, hence my conclusion...

If you try to delete it, you get this error message: You cannot delete your own topics in this board.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 17, 2023, 11:13:47 AM

It's not possible to delete the topics at all. The topics can be deleted only be moderatos and admins.

Some topics are self-moderated, but there would be notification message for it, unlike what is happening.

OP can just edit the post and report the topic to be deleted. But I have seen some topics like that but I do not know if it is reported to the moderator to be deleted and the moderator just leave the thread maybe for other users posts not to be deleted. As for me, I think this is the work of moderators deleting some old posts and probably under gambling board.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on January 17, 2023, 11:13:47 AM

It's not possible to delete the topics at all. The topics can be deleted only be moderatos and admins.

Quote from: tranthidung on January 17, 2023, 11:14:29 AM

Without moderator engagement, normal users can only move their topics to Archival or edit opening post content to delete or ... and leave it like that.

Hmm, interesting. Thank you.
I've never needed to remove my own topics, but I've always seen the Delete button on my posts, even if they were topic starters, hence my conclusion...

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Thanks for your answers guys, as you say, I didn't get a notification about the deleted post, so, it should be from old threads getting deleted.

This is good to know because I was thinking I was doing something bad, but I was not the problem.

Every time I see a user posting scams or malware I try to warn the community, and maybe those are the post that are getting deleted, I will be more careful about the threads where I post in the future, and better than warning the community I will direct report the threads to the moderators.

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