Topic: Why the FUD about XTRABYTES is unjustified - page 2. (Read 491 times)

You're ad-hominid attacks only hurt your cause and make you look childish.

Anyone with an XBY profile picture who does not answer Neloc's points, point by point with reasonable rebuttals discredits XBY


Like this fool below

Now now, don't take everything I said the wrong way. XBY can be a good project, but it has alot of problems. I have an issue with the shameless shilling and cult mentality, not the tech so much. It's people like CCR, Bikerlezno and Fatoshi (yup, he's added to my list as a shameless shiller) who only wish for sole gains from the project while promoting that mentality. One day the project may become one of the greatest in the world, but to do that, changes need to happen. XBY will need to have a working product (obviously), there needs to be realistic deadlines set, and if there isn't any deadlines, at least try to keep the community updated as frequently as possible and communicate any obstructions to the community. Like, take the "patent is in an IP firm" for instance. Break that down for a moment. Why not simply explain the delays or at what "phase" that it is at in the writing process. Like, why not say that lawyer x found that y is taking a bit of time due to research. Or lawyer z is helping issue y, but has a backlog because of x, so the patent may be done by z. Those are the small things that I meant.

Now if you want to put a full smoking gun in the FUD (it's not really fud honestly, it's just impatience and poor communication), you could black out any personal information on the patent and post it as a PDF. That will assure alot of investors easily that it's in the works. For the community tho, no suggestions, but alot of the staff are rude, but not all are  . When you guys see the price dropping, you shout FUD FUD FUD, THE PRICE IS DOWN, NOOOOO!!!!! rather than thinking why lol. Also, I will agree at least give the testnet a chance. Don't buy into XBY because of FOMO or hype, but you can apparently use "false tokens" to test nodes. So instead of losing money or worrying about the price, just give it a try cause why not?

See, how i'm not shamelessly shilling or FUDing, but giving constructive advice? So the product isn't sh*t exactly, but there's community issues. Be open and honest about everything, be communicative, be a fish that simply swims like fishfishfish  .

Serious note : I can play devils advocate for both sides since I see the positives and negatives about this project, but considering so many people only care about price and call anything that could "potentially" lower the price FUD with no focus on the product, the only way to get to you guys is with the price. People like smoolae, fatoshi and that guy (whoever he is) above me doesn't give constructive advice, they only rally for or against, not in-between.  
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Oh and at the guy above me, as a counterargument, peculium in your sig is true vaporware...if XBY is bad (and i'm still saying if), that project is...well, whatever ash, excrement and a garbage dump equals (: (it's all speculation and vaporware buddy, that's what leads the pumps and dumps). If i have 46 btc (maayyyyybbbeee I have it), I wouldn't put it into peculium, it has even more red flags than this project. Notice anything between the shameless shilling on peculium and this project even though it doesn't have a working product? The price is gonna go parabolic and you're gonna be broke lol

*Also glovesmacks that guy above me (whoever he is) and smoolae* language! there might be kids reading this forum! Use a * to hide the i, it's polite! *double smacks deity because he's a closet pervert who pms me weird stuff*

What can you expect from this kind of people who are being paid in order to shill a coin? Nothing.

Anyway, XTRABYTES has always been the same shit, even when it touched the top 70, hopefully it is drowning on the same shit that they did.

This is shit, nothing more than that.

Neloc75

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GO FIND FUCKING LIFE. JESUS CHRIST.... I've been watching bitcointalk since '2013, and i had to create account just to reply to brainless kid and piece of shit.

Jesus christ, DO YOU HAVE A LIFE? A LIFE? FIND IT ALREADY. On every POST u fuckin reply with scam, fud, some random shitposts, get a fucking LIFE already.

If u dont like the project, SIMPLY IGNORE IT. SIMPLY, U GET IT? SIMPLY IGNORE IT STUPID IDIOT.

God.............

Can't believe who has access to these forums.

@post, Awesome explanation, and i believe in XBY, i don't hodl so much but still believe in it! Best of luck!

One of the most technological diamond! XBY , great community, great team and amazing technology!!!
I think about few days the price jump into stratosphaire......!
Catch up on the train and seat your belts!!
GOGO XBY!

Neloc75 could you please not turn every XBY topic into mindless fud and shitposting?

I'm a high level member of the team?

If you mean I regularly get banned for arguing with people on discord then yes I am a high level member. lol


Don't be boring anymore....no one cares.

I read the entire biker dialogue and... well... I didn't really see what all the hubbub was about.  Perhaps I missed something?  It seems that the buyer (you?) got buyer's remorse at some point and started attacking him out of nowhere.  Other than that, I don't see any issue with biker or anyone else from the team selling their XFUEL for XBY. Is there some issue with that which we should all be aware of?

First, Bikerlezno is a prominent member and part of management in the XBY community. So, that form of behavior is obviously shameful. Is there any proof that you and others aren't simply doing the same thing for your own gain?

Also as well, from my understanding you're a high level member of the project, is there....a reason that you act so defensive and lash out at me and call it FUD when it isn't?

Also is there any reason that there were such catastrophic delays and failures in communications when it comes to basic and important aspects of the project such as the 1st testnet, the CMC reduction issue, the company registration taking 5+ weeks (when it should have only taken one day), and well, pretty much most of all of the issues with this project lol

Dude if Biker ran the project... I mean really ran the project but no offence to him I wouldn't invest.....


Biker runs the project....now thats actually funny.


So my retort is Biker is a character but he doesn't 'Run' anything....lol


Got anything else?

is that your retort to the proof and open questions that I have asked you that your investors will view? Is this...how little you truly care about this project to only call it FUD, when the truth is in front of you? And yes, I have invested in this project, that's why i opened a dialogue to help...but, yep, your response is simply childish, immature and focuses on caring about price rather than real issues. (or you don't know a way, and it's fine to say, but a open dialogue is basic and important). But this is why I said that you, CCR and bikerlezno only care about pumping the price for a profit, which is unhealthy.

Please don't argue with me when I try to open a dialogue with proof and help, it's unfitting of management for this project. I've given evidence for my view and gave you a chance to respond properly, but arguing and acting defensive does not help anyone in this community.

Posting it since it was lost in the wall of text, but here's basic evidence of corruption of the people who run the project.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mhMawNmC1-AE_ccH9KI4QaMt8bqGc8mBYa0AjitMe30/edit

TLDR : I gave you evidence and tried to help promote this project by having the issues addressed in an open forum. But (you) fatoshi literally goes defense mode and calls it fud -shrugs-. You simply prove my point of caring about the price is more important than anything, which in-turn reaffirms my point of pumping and dumping that's done by you (maybe) and definitely bikerlezno.

Hey! Great post!
I knew about xtrabytes few weeks ago and I found it very smart. It is a new concept, different from most of cryptocurrencies, and as happens with all things that are new people have to know more about it.
Crypto ecosystem needs more projects like this.

What I really hate is the guy fudding I wouldnt be surprised if he is doing this as some kind of (in his head) smart plan to actually boost XBY cause his FUD is pretty low quality and I don't think is even convincing to himself.


Again....its boring....


If you are an actual holder just try to understand you will save your energy better by just acting normal. You aren't some great manipulator of the people....you're just a kind of super Normie, very dull, very uninteresting and i'm guessing very lonely.

Yup, exactly. The basic logic of holding through the hard times and focusing on what's important fails. You call it FUD, but it isn't...it's shameful trying to cheat a person who also helps to develop the project. If the developers only care about the price and themselves, what happens to the little guy who works hard only to get treated well...like crap? lol

Hence my point that you and bikerlezno / CCR are potentially only in it to pump the price and dump when the going gets rough, while joe whathisname gets stuck with the bag   (also bold because you used bold, but that actually feels bleh to read lol).

So in essence, you proved my point and don't contribute to what's important.

Random shameless edit : but also on a serious note to try and help this project and not post proof of what's been going on. How do you (fatoshi) as a major player in this project, wish to actually help to remedy the problems that plagues not only the project, but the community as well?

Biker is a hardcore trader....its who he is, if u didnt work that out then u arent too bright. Why shouldnt a team member (who isn't really anything more than a social media helper....no offence to him) be firstly alllowed to do whatever he wants with his xfuel and also what possible reflection does is have on the actual development of Borz and XBY?

And all I see is u trying to antagonize him in your chat records anyway.



ITS FUD........and its boring..

Buddy, i posted proof of bikerlezno selling, any retort to that?   proof beats random words brah. So if bikerlezno was selling and buying when shilling the price all along, how do we know you aren't doing the same thing and just trying to shill the price?

like on a scale of who said this and who said that, proof is like....a 10 while random words is a -1  . Oh and let me elaborate on why I said supreme and fish are awesome. You (fatoshi) and CCR just don't seem that honest to me, they (fish and supreme) seem genuine which is the problem. It's true that we haven't interacted that much, but CCR lacks people skills and you...well, idek buddy. You come across as someone who just cares about the price solely, which hurts me alot to watch, and to this project.  

So, I can sit here and amass proof of the problems, but us arguing won't help the project so...how would you recommend fixing the corruption, delays and other issues? I did suggest an AMA and that's better than blind defense or blind offense of the project...

(i'm not focusing on the tech rn, just the community at heart so let's focus there first and tech later)

You should be more worried about your past posts.....U Weirdo.


And to the project. Its ironic that XBY is whatever u think about the project been probably the most honest and unscammy project ive ever seen. For goodness sake the developers even had concerns the price was rising too fast at one point early in development...who does that?

Maybe this is why they get attacked cause the whole crypto market IS so scammy and XBY isn't maybe?

I won't disagree that they did do very basic stuff to help the project, but there is alot of proof of the project being sketchy in various ways  as you can see from both posted proof and their history

TLDR, fish and supremegoose are awesome, but the project still has alot of red flags, and not everyone are honest as they set out to be. Also your post has some points, but in the end, it's more of shilling then addressing the real underlying flaws of the project.

(copypasted from my original post earlier)

oh, the point of my posts was that clarity should be the most important to the project. It was originally implied (and listed) that they would work on the patent and company registration during the holidays, but it turned out that they didn't even submit the patent during the last period that I asked. They DID submit the company registration, but it took 5+ weeks compared to the original date, when a registration in that country should have taken only one day and around $100 dollars. So it was either laziness, lies or poor communication. For the company and @fish, yes I think what you did with the patent announcement was in the correct direction, but you only reiterated my point that no one (even you) know what's going on with the patent and we will have to wait. The developers has been very poor at relaying information to their investors.


Now as for the testnet, in addition to extending testing and everything else, the overall testnet will most definitely go beyond the timeframe of "march" if the past has taught us anything and I don't feel that was very clear from the posts that you posted. But when there are people like Fatoshi who shouts "GOGO RALLY BUY XBY!!", it makes the price look bad. When people like bikerlezno constantly sells and does insider trading, it makes the project look bad. My overall conclusion is that you, Fish, and all the other developers need to be direct and honest with everyone (that's the geist of it). If you hosted an AMA occasionally, it probably would kill any doubts as well.

And yes, I do daytrade same as alot of others here. I have no need for super cheap XBY because I believe that if the project was clear, open, honest and eventually have a working product, then no matter the amount I buy now, be it 10k, 100k or even a million would make a difference at the current price (because the price will go up when there is value and quality over hype). But with the shadiness of certain aspects of the project, I think "hey, why don't I just sell or daytrade instead of holding?". You can sell and buy 22333228309280823 different pump and dump s*itcoins and it wouldn't make a difference since you can make a profit if you time it right, you should strive to be better than that, not only as a developer but as a community.

also @fish, yes, you're fun to bug   but no, I really do care about other investors  and I can understand some of the problems plaguing this project, i'm not really that intent on bothering you for answers (since from my understanding, you're the same as us, just an investor but with a voice), but my focus are on the people who manipulate this project at the higher scale (take a look at the complaints about people like bikerlezno in management for instance who daytraded XBY's own platform currency) for simple gains. You might be honest and trustworthy, but some of the people with the "keys" really is not afaik. I mean think about it for a moment.. when it was at it's last ATH, if I was such a bad person, would I have placed such a large buy order to keep the price above 5k satoshis and take a personal loss when I could have just dumped all of my XBY instantly and walked away? (and even announced the 5k buy wall)

(ignore the points about this @fish and focus on the concerns)

I think your post makes some good points, but there are still far too many real issues that are not present with the platform itself that needs to be solved as well. Shameless shilling is never really helpful when there are both community issues and technical doubt...

Also contradictory to your post, people DID shill the project all over the web during the SM campaign and it DID get dumped from 5800 satoshis...so that's an error really lol. During the rise of it's hype, it rose solely based on speculation and everyone FOMOing in beliving that the CMC reduction would be soon, but after it turned out that it would probably be a while, people sold. So once the underlying problems are addressed, the project will rise for real instead of based on speculatory pump and dumps. And how do you know that some of the developers didn't sell, when people had screenshots of bikerlezno, who is an active developer literally selling X-Fuel and lying about the price when it's far more important psychologically than the public XBY token?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mhMawNmC1-AE_ccH9KI4QaMt8bqGc8mBYa0AjitMe30/edit?usp=sharing (literal proof of bikerlezno selling xfuel which is more important than XBY. This demonstrates greed which is unhealthy in a community based project, especially when it's deployed by management)

Greatly written pice! Well put Sir!