Why the hell is it poloniex doesn't add waves? - page 2.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on November 22, 2016, 01:14:50 PM

Quote from: dwgscale11 on November 22, 2016, 01:11:22 PM

Why do people buy in to all these new coin scams anyways? Seriously... WHY?!?!

To profit from pump and dumps and make more bitcoins, that is what 99% of people use altcoins for lol. All that matters is king bitcoin, the rest of coins are irrelevant. Waves looks like an interesting project, but unfortunately without poloniex it's never going to pump, and no matter how good your project is, if it's not doing good price wise then it's a dead project.

Right now, at the current price of Bitcoin, Waves developers own around 20 million dollars to spend on the project, and it has just started. Full nodes have just been released, there is still the gui asset to be developed, DEX platform (descentralized exchange) and one of the most important things, the fiat gateways. And waves is an inflation less system, this means that no more tokens will be ever produced. So, the more the platform is used and the more Fiat you get into the platform, the higher the price the waves token will be worth.

Poloniex would be awesome, it would allow more users to buy into Waves tokens, but sincerely...in the long term with the fiat gateways and DEX, it is not needed and Sasha knows about that. It is just not an over night rich scheme like people want to, the platform has to gather some real use in the real world and this takes some time.

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Quote from: dwgscale11 on November 22, 2016, 01:11:22 PM

Why do people buy in to all these new coin scams anyways? Seriously... WHY?!?!

To profit from pump and dumps and make more bitcoins, that is what 99% of people use altcoins for lol. All that matters is king bitcoin, the rest of coins are irrelevant. Waves looks like an interesting project, but unfortunately without poloniex it's never going to pump, and no matter how good your project is, if it's not doing good price wise then it's a dead project.

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Why do people buy in to all these new coin scams anyways? Seriously... WHY?!?!

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 21, 2016, 08:15:48 PM

According to Charles Hoskinson, Scorex was meant for academic research and not for production use.

According to Satoshi and the core Ƀ devs, Bitcoin was meant for academic research and, even to this day, describes itself as 'experimental software'.

As for Waves FN and scorex - I haven't run a node that is so fast, stable and resource frugal until now.

I am guessing that Polo are doing an audit of the FN - they missed months of big volumes and I expect they don't mind wasting a few days volume doing their own due diligence. Meanwhile, Bitrex is a fine exchange as are most of the others like Hit and C-Cex.

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Quote from: hubballi on November 22, 2016, 04:22:51 AM

Even if the users of poloniex exchange ask them they dont add it

Well, in that case they don't deserve to be the number 1 exchange of the cryptocurrency world!

Who is giving them trust and making them big? Who spends money there and causes their trade volume? Us!

Honestly I don't know about other requested coins such as ICONOMI, but if they are doing this with many coins, meaning they don't add them, not giving a damn about 1000 user requests and not even giving any reason, then maybe it's time for them to understand that power doesn't last forever! Angry

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It is true that Poloniex exchange is very arrogant and they only add coins which comes under their terms and conditions which are fair or not , the same they have also not listed ICONOMI coins. Even if the users of poloniex exchange ask them they dont add it

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Quote from: xsentus on November 21, 2016, 03:03:40 PM

many craps coin listed on poloniex.. so there is no reason about high volume or not..

Let me know about the crap coin like your said, I strongly agree if Z was including in there. Cheesy

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The primary reason I heard was that the Poloniex team made a security audit of the Waves code and it did not pass the said audit. Also there some people who said that it was also because the Waves platform does not even have their full nodes online yet and have not declared a date when they will be online. I would stay away from Waves for now because using the Scorex code base might have been the wrong decision from the start. According to Charles Hoskinson, Scorex was meant for academic research and not for production use.

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Quote from: shanem on November 21, 2016, 08:20:32 AM

Poloniex don't really add coins unless they expect great volume coming in soon.

you could put cryptographically proven photo tokens of your uncle's ass on poloniex and it's gonna be pumped. no ones there cares what any of the coins on there actually do or stand for. volume would arrive when they got bored of all the other junk. i don't think that's a compelling reason why they're not putting it on there.

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It always comes back to first impressions and networking. Poloniex added XEM at their launch and kept them listed, even though XEM's volume dipped below $1000 for the longest time.

Waves obviously is not liked by the people who run Poloniex and thus you'll never see it get added. Cheesy

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many craps coin listed on poloniex.. so there is no reason about high volume or not..

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I don't think you can categorically say Poloniex decided to list Waves, though the behaviour of Sasha at times can be annoying especially his action when Poloniex listed ETC. I think Poloniex is trying to tighten up their security and has raised bar quite high to enter their platform (have seen Waves get 1000BTC daily volume on Bittrex? No, I've not). Projects like ICONOMI, Antshares, Singularity will also love to be listed on Poloniex and are all good projects too. so what conspiracy theory is preventing them from being listed on Polo.

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Even if Poloniex haven't added Waves, I think there is a chance they will add it later, Poloniex choose the right time to add the coin they want to add, ICONOMI has a great community and till now they haven't added it.

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Wel,, your post is really funny, and those evile theories too Tongue

. For me, it hasn't been added because they're taking Waves from high and saying its worthless.

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Poloniex still lists Sasha's defunct asset MMNXT.
Maybe they can replace that one with Waves.

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I think Poloniex simply decided that they will nto add that many coins as they did add a year ago. I am sure there are half coins on Poloniex that less deserve be there as waves. But they were added in times when Poloniex needed volume to survive. Now they are way more picky. Of Course is way harder to enter Poloniex then to stay on Poloniex. But we still see coins being kicked off from time to time. I think in last half year more coins was deleted then listed. and this might actually continue.

That OPs first suspicion about 5% is totally impossible for fair launch coins. Where would anyone get 5% of coins to just give someone? Buy on Bittrex?

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You can get a specific answer if you contact their support on their website. Maybe their is a reason behind for that issue. Also, why not try to send a request or suggestion to poloniex that is related for that coin or try to ask for communities help of waves maybe they can help you to solve that problem.

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Well, only Poloniex could tell you why, anything else is just theories.

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Quote from: Emperor of Man on November 21, 2016, 09:37:17 AM

Quote from: shanem on November 21, 2016, 08:20:32 AM

Poloniex don't really add coins unless they expect great volume coming in soon. Waves have been in bittrex for quite some time. It is unlikely Poloniex will add an old coin unless there is something big happening. We need to wait for a few months when Poloniex volume has dried up before they will add a new coin to boost their volume again.

If volume is what they are looking for, waves have had big developments before, and will have more features coming soon, but honestly I doubt that's the problem because they have many cryptos listed with daily volumes of less than 1 BTC, and many of those have been like that since their listing.

Quote from: NutMasterTardd on November 21, 2016, 08:41:54 AM

Waves devs do hold the most Waves

Any source for this?

They ran a big successful ICO, and as far as I know waves distribution is okay. Most of it is being held by the community, and not so many weak hands or whales exist.

I meant as one holder, they have the first (or second to bittrex?) highest amount of Waves. I believe from when they put buy walls for investors to exit a few months ago, check distribution on Bittrex.

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Quote from: shanem on November 21, 2016, 08:20:32 AM

Poloniex don't really add coins unless they expect great volume coming in soon. Waves have been in bittrex for quite some time. It is unlikely Poloniex will add an old coin unless there is something big happening. We need to wait for a few months when Poloniex volume has dried up before they will add a new coin to boost their volume again.

If volume is what they are looking for, waves have had big developments before, and will have more features coming soon, but honestly I doubt that's the problem because they have many cryptos listed with daily volumes of less than 1 BTC, and many of those have been like that since their listing.

Quote from: NutMasterTardd on November 21, 2016, 08:41:54 AM

Waves devs do hold the most Waves

Any source for this?

They ran a big successful ICO, and as far as I know waves distribution is okay. Most of it is being held by the community, and not so many weak hands or whales exist.

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