Topic: Why The Hell People Aren't Helping? (Read 525 times)

There is no certain amount OP has set to target for the charity. You may check the progress activity of their charity.
Link: Bitcointalk Charity Program

Is OP has a target to get money in his charity event? As far as I know, it doesn't matter how money do you get just give to other people that wanted it. I help some people in my country especially to my neighbor and I guess that is what should I do compared I help some people out there.

^ genius, wish I could merit that.

To answer your question in the header, the reason the Hell People are not helping is because they are Hell People.

You are looking for angels.

But then, what you find are the Hell's Angels.

Mostly what happen is that people are tired of helping to created problems and in most cases what the person in need really need is not money but advice and platform's to thrive on because the donations of money can even result in creating more problems to them if not properly managed. What am saying in instead is that the government should be responsible for the helping to elevation of the poor in the society and not individuals.

The worst thing to do when asking for donations, is complaining to possible donors that no one's donating. Let's be frank here, many people in this site need money themselves (moi included), you can't just guilt-trip them into shelling out money.

Maybe just do as churches do and hold raffles? If it's regular, like monthly, then maybe even the stingy would pitch in every once in a while in hopes of a quick win.


Hopefully NGOs that focus on livelihood training or entrepreneurship. That way people can't argue that "you're just helping them have more kids that will also be poor".

Even if the OP is genuine to its core, still many people that can afford will not shell out money, either they are too lazy to do the process of sending or they just don't want to. Pretty simple. As others have said also, many people are skeptical because of so many bogus attempts of extracting money from others. So you really can't expect people to be helpful with others. Maybe, the OP can tie up with licensed NGOs that will make his small project more credible to the eyes of people.

You have a good point dude. What is the government of your country doing about the people you claimed are in need of help and why can't you advise some of them to participate in crypto currency and make a living the way to you do here.

It is not compulsory for one to donate and escrow funds is not yastic for one to trust whether if people donate funds it actually get to the people the funds is meant for.
You are currently participating in a campaign at the moment and why can't you donate whatever you earn in a week to the acclaimed people you want to help? It is better to source money from the people within your community who can actually see the people you claimed are in need of help.

I believe it is the opposite.  There have been numerous gofundme campaigns that are fake and have reached their goals.  If you make people sad or angry they are quick to donate money.  Charity is a huge business, people want to be trusting in general.

Have a look into where the money goes from a lot of "well known charities" let's call them. I was going to say "respectable", decided against.

Check out how much goes towards the CEOs wage and running of the company before it filters down to the people (I'm not saying it's the same with every Charity, but at least check these figures before donating to someone's lifestyle).


I say the cryptocurrency community pull together and try to raise and donate towards forming an organisation to combat it ourselves.

I might sound mad, but listen...


Drones.


We build drones which can automate the process of delivering clean food, water and clothing to remote and exteremely poor areas. They can drop to defined GPS locations based on scheduling and recharge at secure docking bays between destinations (imagine power pylon height, renewable energy powered).

This would eliminate the need for children to walk miles to obtain clean water and allow the communities time to focus on repair and restructure.

It wouldn't need $1bn, we wouldn't be buying marked up DJIs but our own organisation engineering and building the devices at cost price, then deploying to the bases.

I can't give an exact figure as to the cost without being able to justify and breakdown first, but I can't see why it would exceed $50m.

I would be happy to pull together whatever resources I can in order to help such a project accomplish said goals IF we could get a good team of influential / knowledgeable  / skilled and of course always a bonus, "healthy-walleted" people together.

It's just a suggestion!! 

The goverment must help, that is why we pay taxes.

People don't trust easily when it comes to donation specially online.
We don't really know what would happen next when we give some funds,Would it really be sent to those who needs it or just going to be put in a scammer's pocket?

If you are right, just send your donations to me. It makes more sense than what you said, so how can you go wrong?

I love this chart!

^^^ The chart is not BS. Certainly everything that is given, is given for the benefit of the giver, even though he/she seems to act philanthropically. The same for anybody giving to the OP cause as anything else.

If anyone gives to the OP cause, why is he/she doing it? Personal satisfaction, personal guilt if the gift is not given, benefits reaped in forms other than the type of the gift.

There is a difference between the chart and a gift to the OP. The chart shows gifts based on taxation. Such gifts are for the promoting of the one-world order.

This chart is bullshit. US is not giving any aid for free. They have their own vested interest and they are disguising in the name of the humanitarian aids.

Many people have their own charities that they support.  I personally send funds to 3 different charities and 3 different organizations on a regular basis.  Not saying they're better uses of funds than your charity, but you can't expect to just become everyone's goto charity simply because you exist, nor can you assume since people aren't donating to your project that they aren't making other charitable contributions elsewhere.

I followed TECSHARE's example, and donated a merit to somebody... I don't remember who.

Despite the good intention, asking people for donation is not that easy to garner. People have their priorities and you cannot just expect them to donate cash just because they have the means so. Maybe have already donated into a particular charity or they need the cash for their daily-monthly obligations.


This is actually true. I think my suggestion would be posting more pictures, showing the concrete development, or the purchasing of materials/food which are to be given to these people.
I never doubted your donation page but people would like to see on where their money is going. Post more pictures and more visual aids to make the page more convincing enough to catch the attention of big-hearted people on the forum.

I will try to donate when I get the opportunity this week!

Agreed, TheWaterfoundation.org concept is as an example. They send a donator and the community a report about how far they have been making progress for the donation. I believe it somehow gives the feeling of usefulness about every $ or bitcoin donated, and it indirectly triggers peoples to donate more since they know the amount spent has been put to good use.

Dude, stop calling it charity if you wanted to force people to donate in your event. :/ I'm not saying that this one is shady, since I know you kabayan. You've posted this at our forum section. But please, don't force people. 

You know what you should build your financial  status first. No matter what you have to say or do you can't always expect that someone are also willing to help.

So why not instead focusing on making your income as high as possible so that you can do it by yourself then eventually someone might be convinced of your efforts and will help you then.


Wanna know some fact?, even the churches to whatever religion are getting the donations for their own priorities building useless elegant establishments for praying purposes instead of giving it back to poor people. That is the fvcking reality even those you keeps on telling other people to help are not doing the act

It's nice initiative by you, but I find it strange that you're surprised that many people don't want to donate. There are multiple reasons why:
Not every person here is rich and some of them are counting every dollar that they earn, so they can't afford to donate.
You can't change the world with these tiny donations. Even if you will donate whole your wage, your donation still will have very small influence. We as individual people don't have much power
There are so many charity organisations in this world, if I didn't donated here, does it means that I don't donate at all. I'm simply not rich enough to donate every time when I see someone requesting for money. I have to work hard to earn money for my own needs, not to give away all money that I earn.
I'm not talking about you, but some people are sceptical about charity because often donated money don't reach people who really need it. Some charity organisations spend these money for other things like PR, there are so many stories about it.
It would be off-topic.

Considering how responsive the OP is to the replies it is no wonder no one is interested in helping.

Thank goodness you said donations are made willingly so no one is obligated to helping another person bit in this word we all need help and nobody can make it on his or her own, but the society we leave in today is opposite due to scam and the deceive all around made people relent in helping others.

Maybe it doesn't get the attention of right people,you can try to give the link of your thread on Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion where there are many guys who is holding bunch of bitcoin,so of them maybe willing to help.

people have limited ressources.

"Why The Hell People Aren't Helping? "

Are you connected to bitcointalk? You are using the forum's name.
 Even if you have good intentions you may not have the ability to carry them out.
Typically I'll check out Charity Navigator to scope out places I give money to.

You are correct: sometimes people in crypto can be cynical: wish people would have given more support to Sean's Outpost...it's a bummer to see them non-op.


Stop cursing at us while you're asking for money.  <----that'd be a good start ;-)
 

Thank you for researching this out and that is more reason we should understand that because  people are not giving financial aid through you do not mean they are not giving aid.  Remember it is aid and not right and since is not right we should appreciate the one we have seeing.

^^^ Right!

Look left in this post. Do you see my Bitcoin address? Donate to me. I'll use it for good, right?

 

I know you have good intentions dude but you can't ask people to easily shell out any amount by indicating it' for charity. I'm not ssying that this one is fraudulent or shady, but with the number of such antics that ended up to be bogus, people would require proof. I wouldn't mind sending a buck but trust isn't actually given that easily in these times.

There are a lot of poor people in the world, and simply putting out your hand is not enough now days. You have to demonstrate exactly how the money will be used to produce positive results. One way to do this is to create some kind of for profit enterprise that donates a certain percentage of the income to your charity. One concept I was thinking of the other day that might help you get your project off the ground is to create a signature campaign. People could use the signatures voluntarily as a sort of donation, or you could use a separate fund to pay out users to wear your signatures that people could donate to. You could focus on signing up people from the nations you are trying to help. You could for example also get payments from people with smaller websites or services that wish to advertise through your program who would otherwise see a whole campaign signature program as overkill. With this extra exposure you should be able to get more people active in your program.

The government forces me at gunpoint to give far too much money to charity already..

Humanity is pretty ruthless..

Your thread has only been open for one day and you are already not satisfied with the result? And it has already turned into a debate about UBI..
You want the, slightly not poor, 1st world countries to just feed everyone in 3rd world countries, so their population can explode, so they can feed them too, so the population will explode, and then what?
Set yourself up for a massive famine once the free stuff runs out is what, and that will be our fault too..

The priest needs that money more than you do.     

Recently I have made a post on making chaRity activities and raising funds for a good cause. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-charity-program-give-hope-to-everyone-1-is-a-big-thing-for-them-5124375

Until I have seen some people that are ready to help and encountered a person who really is in need, and yet the fundraising event is not getting any attention even though it already have some activities.

Does any person will be poor if he donates a $1 money coming from his own pocket? Although I know that donations are made willingly and not forcibly but the fact that humanity is not really satisfying as of now, I feel sorry for those who're in bad shape.

If I were have the money, I would like to donate as much as I can (I already did but a small amount). And as in the meantime, I don't have anything to give but I will as soon as I have.

I'm still hoping that it will get some attention, in fact the funds are being escrowed by a trusted user.