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legendary
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April 25, 2024, 04:18:12 PM
#64
I heard before that each license has their own rule and this can include country restrictions...

There's something about those licenses, that seems very strange to me. It depends from country to country, but each of us has that experience, we can visit some casinos while others we can't. We can play some providers freely in one casino, but the same providers are forbidden to us in another casino.

I can't say that I noticed that some rules apply the same to everyone, each casino has its license and its own rules. The only way to know what and where is valid is to try the casino and read the ToS (which I don't particularly like)... I rely on the casino itself to notify me if my country is on the banned list.
legendary
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April 25, 2024, 04:12:53 PM
#63
I agree with the Op that gambling is highly accepted in the country and in my locality gamblers even publicly saying that without gambling most of them would have join "street works" like, arm robbery, snatching of people belongings and stealing on the streets but because of gambling, those boys are always engaged in the game halls playing games from morning till evening. Normally gambling is not a bad thing but person uses the opportunity to abused it. And that is why some the casino providers restrict those countries are abusing the industry with illegal activities.
hero member
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April 25, 2024, 04:05:18 PM
#62
Sports betting is not illegal in my country. According to some key gambling and betting statistics1,2:
  • There are over 60 million active gamblers.
  • $2 billion is spent on gambling everyday
  • 53% of people in my country bet at least once per day. Our population is around 200 million people.
  • There are 14 million bet stakes and payments that are made over the internet every day
  • and others
We are actually a gambling nation and the market is highly profitable. I wonder why despite these statistics, yet some sport betting and casino sites haven't taken advantage of it. As I conducted my research, I noticed that some casinos don't offer or no longer offers their services to people in my country. There are other countries with similar situation too. And it begs the question: why the reluctance? Such hesitation seems out of place in a country where gambling is legal.


1 https://www.betensured.com/blog/top-10-nigeria-gambling-statistics/
2 https://www.noi-polls.com/post/gambling-and-betting-poll-2019
Perhaps you're seeing this as a business opportunity and not as a problem that perhaps your government is actively working to thwart and solve. Remember that gambling as a business, even if government-sanctioned only benefits one party, and most often than not they would make sure to keep that disparity in the name of profit.

The fact alone that more than half of your country's population's gambling's a little alarming to me. You're literally talking about a good amount of people gambling their whole paychecks away and with little to no gains from it too. Like it would've made sense if the games they play the most are on the side of those that are easier to win but as it stands I'm looking at people that are just too addicted to quit. 
hero member
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April 25, 2024, 03:38:00 PM
#61
In the Philippines, the Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) estimates that the gambling industry will generate $5.9 billion as revenue for the year 2024.

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The Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) is anticipating gross gaming revenues (GGR) in 2024 to reach PHP336. 38 billion ($5.9 billion). This target represents a significant increase of 17.9 percent, equivalent to PHP51.1

From this fact alone, you can see that the gambling industry has a significant effect in providing revenue for the government. In return, these funds would be use in order to create infrastructures, job opportunities, and other relevant services that will inure to the benefit of the people in the country.

While gambling establishments are heavily regulated, one cannot deny the fact that it is responsible for bringing the highest revenue in the country; that is the reason on why the Philippines is somehow lenient when it comes to gambling laws and its execution/implementation.



1 https://agbrief.com/news/philippines/24/03/2024/pagcor-expecting-2024-ggr-to-grow-18-y-on-y/
hero member
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April 25, 2024, 03:30:14 PM
#60
Sports betting can be legal in your country, but it doesn't mean any platforms can operate there, as there are still regulations and requirements made by your local government in order to allow those platforms to operate there legally, including the virtual services. Maybe these websites you are attempting to access don't fulfill the requirements of your government, so they decided to not operate there to avoid legal issues. Each country is unique on their laws and regulations, so it's hard for a foreigner person to say why exactly it's happening there. Moreover, each gambling service is also unique on their terms and conditions, besides licenses. And some of those licenses may enter in conflict with local regulations from some countries.

If I were you, I wouldn't bother too much about not being able to access determined gambling portals. There are many of them for you to choose, deposit and play. So go for the ones which are working in your place, and forget about the ones unavailable. They don't worth the risks and headaches you might have in order to force an access to their services...
sr. member
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April 25, 2024, 03:28:11 PM
#59
Hope you are not using an IP address with US location? Or the location of the country that the gambling site restricted?

It is good to also read the restricted countries on the gambling site ToS.

I have noticed that you will see some countries that are accepted on a gambling site but not accept on another gambling site. This is because of the gambling regulations the country has that the gambling site do not want to abide to.
Well I don't know what the rules are here in Nigeria but I think am quite certain that even if they have some regulations I believe it's probably casino friendly and that's the major reason why almost all casino site are working really fine here in Nigeria. Like the Op said Nigeria is one of the biggest market when it comes to the gambling industry and any casino that prohibits is probably losing alot.
legendary
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April 25, 2024, 03:14:21 PM
#58
I heard before that each license has their own rule and this can include country restrictions. Some casinos are also like a franchise and maybe the ones you have in our country before have experienced a financial problem for them to close down. I already saw a casino like this.

At first I wonder on why I can't access them anymore but they are still accessible on other language with a different domain extension. Interesting statistics you got there BTW. I thought online gambling is now dominating but there is only 14 million bets made on it and that means the rest are still made offline. Woah. You are not even from a gambling capital country but you live in Nigeria according to your link, though I think it's one of the underdeveloped countries, so that should explain it all.
legendary
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April 23, 2024, 06:57:20 PM
#57
This has happened to me a few times, it's funny and it was with new and suspicious casinos. I couldn't even read the TOS of these new casinos because as soon as I clicked on the casino link a warning appeared that my country was on the list of countries banned by the casino. I was wondering what kind of license the casino had that told it to put my country on the list of prohibited countries. In my country, gambling has always been legal and encouraged by the government of my country. In my country we have many physical casinos, we have online casinos, on every street in my country there are slot machines, sports agents and agents who sell lottery tickets and my country is democratic, there is no war and it is not on the list of sanctioned countries

so in my head it didn't make any sense to see that warning that I was seeing at that new casino, but since I couldn't even see the casino's TOS, I couldn't even see if it had a license or not, so all I did was ignore the casino . When I researched the casino I saw many accusations of scams. We soon assumed that the scammer probably just added many countries randomly to the list of blocked countries and then programmed it so that people from those countries would not be able to access the casino.
legendary
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April 23, 2024, 06:25:39 PM
#56
We are actually a gambling nation and the market is highly profitable. I wonder why despite these statistics, yet some sport betting and casino sites haven't taken advantage of it. As I conducted my research, I noticed that some casinos don't offer or no longer offers their services to people in my country. There are other countries with similar situation too. And it begs the question: why the reluctance? Such hesitation seems out of place in a country where gambling is legal.


1 https://www.betensured.com/blog/top-10-nigeria-gambling-statistics/
2 https://www.noi-polls.com/post/gambling-and-betting-poll-2019

There are several reasons:
It may be...
  • the casino or the game provider/supplier is not up to date with the rules in your country;
  • that they have suffered some sanction from your government and are banned/prohibited from operating in your country for breaking some law;
  • that the taxes paid in your country are very high and it is not profitable for them to offer these bets in your country;
  • that they have some prejudice and simply don't allow it because they don't really want to.

Anyway, I believe that the only way for you to get a conclusive answer, if you really want to know why, is to ask them through the customer service/support channel.

I've suffered from this myself, but luckily there are several other sites that allow me to play in the main sports categories without any restrictions, so I simply look for them.
hero member
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April 23, 2024, 05:14:27 PM
#55
I think that is a government decision on taxing which can bring such results as where I live now despite a small number of habitants compared to your country I have seen here them to be almost 100% gamblers or in high favor of gambling.
This may be true in other place but not in my country because the government taxes with access to online casinos and sports bookies.

Obviously, there is some kind of obstacle that they can't/don't want to cross, and the only way is to try to contact these online casinos and ask them an official question.
An email has been sent to them. I'll be waiting for their reply. I'll most likely share it in the thread.

But the one to blame here are not the individual casinos that are blocking Nigerian IP addresses. It's the politicians that hand out licenses to casinos without much thought.

This is not correct. Politicians are not in charge of handing out licenses rather the National Lottery Regulatory Commission (NLRC). It has a proper application guide to follow to obtain a license. Here.

It could be a license issue that they can't afford to pay.
I doubt this the fee for a five year period is $100,000.00. Considering the stats already presented in the OP, they can recover it in less than 12 months.
hero member
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April 23, 2024, 05:06:13 PM
#54
Sports betting is not illegal in my country. According to some key gambling and betting statistics1,2:

We are actually a gambling nation and the market is highly profitable. I wonder why despite these statistics, yet some sport betting and casino sites haven't taken advantage of it. As I conducted my research, I noticed that some casinos don't offer or no longer offers their services to people in my country. There are other countries with similar situation too. And it begs the question: why the reluctance? Such hesitation seems out of place in a country where gambling is legal.
The restrictions can be very annoying because they would make plenty of money as a result of accepting gamblers from your region since you think there are so many gamblers from your region that would like to bet and make money from themselves but the restrictions from casinos not accepting gamblers and users from such region is something one need to think about and try to avoid.

There may be so many reasons why they decided to restrict gamblers from such regions and one of the reasons might be from the government not giving permit to gambling companies to operate. Sometimes, another problem might be because of too much taxation on companies.
sr. member
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April 23, 2024, 03:32:55 PM
#53

No businessman will see a large market like the OP's country and not want to enter into such market. Many factors might be restricting a casino or gambling company from entering into such a market, thereby  restricting the citizens of such countries from gambling with them. Aside from the fact that the gambling company might be having difficulties in acquiring licenses from the country they intend to enter or they do not meet the licensing requirements and cases of unfavourable tax conditions from the host country, a gambling country can restrict members of a particular country from gambling with them if there have be countless cases in the past where members of the affected country have been involved in gambling violations and other illegal tricks with the said gambling company. It is only fair to restrict them since they will be doing the company no good.
sr. member
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April 23, 2024, 01:33:39 PM
#52
Well, we all know that not all gambling sites are in the same country only, or in short there are a lot of gambling sites that is made from different people or company from all over the world so there are many reasons why some gambling sites can't reach their services in some countries, maybe those countries has a strict rule and compliance when it comes to operation of gambling sites in their domain or maybe the country itself banned a certain gambling sites for also different reasons, in this days gambling or online gambling are becoming more a trend but also let's be cautious because not all of the gambling sites are safe, remember of there's a trend there will be scammers or someone that has malicious intents to take advantage of the popularity and trend. Maybe that's the primary reason why some gambling sites might be violating rules or not following the rules that should be followed.
Many countries have a very stricter rule that makes gamble and their site very difficult for few people to cope with. In my country there are many offline gamble and online gambling site and much of them are making money because the rules and the power behind them is from the government so they are not having any much challenges when it comes to gamble. In most countries gambling is not permitted like Colombia, North Korea, Japan that doesn't permits gamble, I belives that there are many people that gamble online while gamble is not legalized in there country.
donator
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April 23, 2024, 01:20:51 PM
#51
Some countries are led by not only their laws but also by their morals and ethics. Especially when it comes to religions, not all groups are on board with gambling as a form of entertainment and some people still think it is evil and destroys lives. For this reason, casinos always have a difficult time moving into new places and establishing themselves in new cultures.
legendary
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April 23, 2024, 12:56:46 PM
#50
Even if it is legal on some countries, there are strict laws to be followed. And so with some gaming providers, their licenses are not enough to quality to offer their games in even in a legal countries. In short, regulation is still the problems for some casinos and providers and the licenses they get to operate. And with that, it doesn't mean that the countries allowed gambling that anyone can go and offer their casinos to that country country specially online. In traditional based casino's it might be different, they could legally operated as long as they are going to pay huge taxes to the government and then operate under the regulations on the local regulators.

Actually, I had not thought about it. But the way taxes are handled in a country could be a major factor on why some casinos decide to engage in some national markets while staying away from others.
They need to put on a scale whether it is worth it for them to engage in a national gambling market and also keep in consideration how the taxation works in the same market.
For example, taxation laws in the United States are ones which are considered to be very tight, probably one of the tightest on the planet, but casinos still choose those offer their services in that jurisdiction because of the huge amount of potential clients/gamblers who are found in such country.
Perhaps, we are seeing some cases in which the laws and regulations concerning to taxation are very complex or difficult for a business like an online casino to comply with, in comparison to the size or profitability of the market/jurisdiction. I don't know anything about the taxation laws in Nigeria, so this could be more about politics instead or economics.
hero member
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April 23, 2024, 06:10:20 AM
#49
Even if it is legal on some countries, there are strict laws to be followed. And so with some gaming providers, their licenses are not enough to quality to offer their games in even in a legal countries. In short, regulation is still the problems for some casinos and providers and the licenses they get to operate. And with that, it doesn't mean that the countries allowed gambling that anyone can go and offer their casinos to that country country specially online. In traditional based casino's it might be different, they could legally operated as long as they are going to pay huge taxes to the government and then operate under the regulations on the local regulators.
hero member
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April 23, 2024, 06:02:04 AM
#48
Maybe the casino doesn't thinks that your people is a potential gamblers like the other people from the other nations. Many reasons why the casino doesn't offers their services to people in your country. If you wants to knows, you can asks to every casino you knows so you can knows the real reasons from them. But I think if that is an online casino, they will not differentiate their customers whether their customers from different countries. But the casino will have their lists of the customer from all countries so they will focus to their big lists of the customers on every countries regarding to gives their services. They will also have their lists that shows from where their customers comes from and will knows from which countries from the most of their customers. They will focus on that lists on gives their services and gives promotions to their customers. The right answers will comes from the casino if you want to asks them. We can just guess of what will be their reason.
sr. member
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April 23, 2024, 04:27:51 AM
#47
Even if gambling is legal in your country doesn't mean that they can freely open up a gambling site and offer it to your people. If I am not mistaken they need to follow their game providers terms and I think to legally operate in your country there's a lot of steps needed and of course the license and all. So even if it's a big market, it's not that easy and may take a lot of money to process legal fees.

By the way OP, which country are you from? it seems that gambling is really popular there, are there a lot of online gambling site that allows you to play there or are you using crypto gambling sites?
hero member
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April 23, 2024, 03:37:08 AM
#46
The problem should be from Nigeria government, maybe their law and regulation does not go in a way that it fits in with what the casino have in mind, and that might make them not to operate in such country. Casinos are for business, and any country that their regulation does not suit with the casino will likely not provide their service.

However, that should not be any problem, as there are so many casinos in Nigeria that are operating and their service is similar to sportbetting, so you can  atch your fun in those casinos.
This is probably the reason. At least in my country, Greece, gambling is perfectly legal; "centralized" casinos (not sure if that's the right term) even go ahead and deduct the income tax when you withdraw any amount over €100. The majority of cryptocurrency casinos I've noticed are banned, you're prompted to a government website that also has a listed with all banned casinos and services. I'm guessing it's firstly due to their licenses, which aren't supposedly recognized as established casinos, and secondly, and most importantly, because they cannot monitor them to deduct any income taxation. I'm using Cloudflare DNS to access those websites and haven't come across any issues. I'll never resort to using any kind of casino that automatically claims a part of my winnings.
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April 23, 2024, 03:00:35 AM
#45
And it begs the question: why the reluctance? Such hesitation seems out of place in a country where gambling is legal.
One or two users already gave the answer which is - it depends on the providers and it's license. Some license do not allow to operate in certain region and in that case they block the country IP. Nothing stops you to use a VPN though as long as you are not risking large amount.
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