the activity of whales in this market consists of placing walls to control the price and keep it inside this current channel and then buying bitcoin with their fiat elsewhere like away from exchanges and over the counter so that their big purchases doesn't affect the market itself and doesn't disturb the balance that they have created.
so you can not say they are "inactive" specially when there is a huge volume going in bitcoin.
Topic: Why the whales are inactive during Xmas holidays? - page 2. (Read 480 times)
Its holiday in most part of the world so everyone will be thinking about being happy with their family since they are earning all these money throughout this year to spend on the special occasions like these,so its ibvious that the market slept quiet at these two days.
4200 was a big area, it was a big area to look at in the summer for possible support in a big push. Its big support and now its a big speedbump to any momentum upwards, its enough that short term borrowed money takes itself off the table with their profits and sees what happens next. Natural profit taking on a move isnt by itself bearish, theres obviously speculators in the price pretty much always.
The smart people can judge what is a healthy pullback, but that isnt as simple as just calling 4200 and cashing out then which helps make it part of an obvious area
The smart people can judge what is a healthy pullback, but that isnt as simple as just calling 4200 and cashing out then which helps make it part of an obvious area
We better keep quiet and keep an eye on market conditions, now we can only hope that the market conditions can recover faster. in the pump yesterday the price of bitcoin failed to break $ 5k, and that disappointed me.
Failed to break $5000? Lol? The price wasn't even close to that level. It couldn't maintain it's position with the $4000-$4200 levels, which is a clear indication that we should remain conservative and not rehash idiotic TA youtubers and their predictions that we'll likely go up to $5000 or $6000 and from there straight back to $3000.
I thought I have seen the worst during the bull run in terms of youtubers pretending to be a pro trader, but currently it's at another level. It surprises me that some of them still have pretty decent view rates per video after all their failed predictions. It could very well be that we're dealing with fools thinking that the next time will result in a different outcome, well, it could, the same applies to gambling.
This is what I've noticed too and yes mostly during holidays people/whales tend to withdraw some of their funds. It is either they were going for a holiday break or for vacation during holidays. Anyway, it is not that bad to have a break just to refresh your mind and relieve all the stress from this bearish market.
We better keep quiet and keep an eye on market conditions, now we can only hope that the market conditions can recover faster. in the pump yesterday the price of bitcoin failed to break $ 5k, and that disappointed me.
Yes, the others users have right when they say that institutions was closed during Christmas and if bank was closed maybe they not have option to transfer money or they just take a break, and possible they withdraw money before Christmas.
After carefully studying the market conditions this morning I finally discovered there is a very small amount of money in circulation. The market lost approximately $18 billion in capitalization in the last 48 hours. There is no strong momentum in the market today, it seems all the whales took off for this special holiday season. What should we do now? Stay on the market and keep monitoring the market behaviors or take off too?
all markets (including stocks and forex) are usually pretty dead during the holidays. it's not just the crypto markets. everyone is on vacation or visiting with family, and traders are also positioning themselves for taxes at year-end. this means less volume and less traders looking to enter new short term positions. everyone is waiting until after the new year.
Maybe a lot of them are institutions that have closed or people that were just forced to take at least one day off by their loved ones. While the crypto market never sleeps, the people within it do need to at some point.
This holiday season is not as wild as the one we had from last year so definitely we can relate it to the market being bearish right now that is why we aren't seeing any big trading volume as of lately. I mean last year we have seen the best jump for BTC's price but this year we have seen the complete opposite of it so obviously the whales won't be doing any big moves this December as what the volume suggest. One probability though is they might have finished stacking up their position during the drop around 3,000$-3,300$ that is why we have seen a lot of inactivity in the market as they are sitting it out.
1. Should it be surprising that trading is lower on a holiday?
It shouldn't. It's pretty obvious that traders, whales, etc, are taking some time off from the market during the holidays, they probably left some bots to excute their trades while they spend some quality time away from the crypto space.What should we do now? Stay on the market and keep monitoring the market behaviors or take off too?
There's nothing major going right now, just some usual fluctuation, imo things will keep going sideways even after the end of the year so I wouldn't change my plans for the short-term if I were you. However, I do recommend taking some time off and stop looking at the charts so often, we're in the holidays season, enjoy yourself and stop worrying about the market movements (: 
Whenever the price falls we blame the whales, but we never present evidence that the fault is of the whales, I think we need to be realistic and we understand that this is a market, if there are many buyers the price will increase and if do not have buyers the price It will fall, simple as that. I imagine that the time of parties people prefer to spend parties and move away from the trade, so it is possible that due to the Christmas period and the new year the price falls, but of course this is a theory that I have no proof
Whales are just waiting for the new year night. I hope there would be an upward movement on 30 and 31 of December. You are right whole world is on vocations now a days. At the end they would have a plan to invest some money. 30 to 35 billion dollars would be enough to change the red trend of the market. It is around 120 billion dollar, it has to cross 150 billion dollar on New year eve.
1. Should it be surprising that trading is lower on a holiday?
2. The volume is not that low, in fact it's higher than before.
3. Why are you assuming that the whales are making up the majority of the market? It's much more likely that a lot of professional/amateur traders took a day off to celebrate Christmas with their families.
4. We should really stop using whales as some universal explanation to every single price movement without any evidence.
2. The volume is not that low, in fact it's higher than before.
3. Why are you assuming that the whales are making up the majority of the market? It's much more likely that a lot of professional/amateur traders took a day off to celebrate Christmas with their families.
4. We should really stop using whales as some universal explanation to every single price movement without any evidence.
Let them spend their profits.
Soon they will be back for more but I dont think it will be that much profit by now.
Investors are becoming wise and soon they will be like this whales who will take the front lines into manipulating the price.
Other markets are down and institutional investors might fall in crypto currencies instead of other commodities like gold.
Whales will be left with nothing if that happens. They will see a sudden bump in price that will make them doubt to buy or not. Then they will all be gone.
Soon they will be back for more but I dont think it will be that much profit by now.
Investors are becoming wise and soon they will be like this whales who will take the front lines into manipulating the price.
Other markets are down and institutional investors might fall in crypto currencies instead of other commodities like gold.
Whales will be left with nothing if that happens. They will see a sudden bump in price that will make them doubt to buy or not. Then they will all be gone.
Bulls should be taking this news as positive. 18% losses, selloffs but at such fragile volumes should mean that any resistance now at 4k shouldn't be too difficult to overcome, should the whales decide this is again a good entry price for the new year.
I don't think this should change any medium-term plans for the rest of us. Speaking for myself, business as usual. No clear hopes for any movement of significance before February when all those reg moves kick in.
Bitcoin losing dominance is my concern. I don't think this should change any medium-term plans for the rest of us. Speaking for myself, business as usual. No clear hopes for any movement of significance before February when all those reg moves kick in.
it is not supposed to be losing dominance when the market bearish.
when last did you saw bitcoin losing -3.20% market dominance in a bearish market?
Bulls should be taking this news as positive. 18% losses, selloffs but at such fragile volumes should mean that any resistance now at 4k shouldn't be too difficult to overcome, should the whales decide this is again a good entry price for the new year.
I don't think this should change any medium-term plans for the rest of us. Speaking for myself, business as usual. No clear hopes for any movement of significance before February when all those reg moves kick in.
I don't think this should change any medium-term plans for the rest of us. Speaking for myself, business as usual. No clear hopes for any movement of significance before February when all those reg moves kick in.
After carefully studying the market conditions this morning I finally discovered there is a very small amount of money in circulation. The market lost approximately $18 billion in capitalization in the last 48 hours. There is no strong momentum in the market today, it seems all the whales took off for this special holiday season. What should we do now? Stay on the market and keep monitoring the market behaviors or take off too?
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