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hero member
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A pumpkin mines 27 hours a night
September 07, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
#31
Yeah it's effectively an amount that Satoshi deemed appropriate. He had to consider block-halving times and thus the slow fading-out of block rewards for miners, in transition to transaction fees that 'pay' the miners.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
#30
6 blocks per hour
* 24 hours per day
* 365 days per year
* 4 years per cycle
= 210,240
~= 210,000
Sum all the block reward sizes:

50 + 25 + 12.5 + 6.25 + 3.125 + ... = 100
Multiply the two:

210,000 * 100 = 21 million

 Smiley


True, but as Danny mentioned, the choices of these "magic constants" are still unexplained.
Why was the block time set at 10 minutes not 5? Why was the block reward set at 50 btc not 100? etc.
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
#29
because there are totally 210000  tons of gold on earth
100BTC == 1 ton of gold  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Cheesy nice ,BTC is digital golden !!!

BTC is probably digital gold 2.0  Smiley
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September 07, 2014, 08:05:55 AM
#28
Maybe it is more simple that you would like it to be. It is just a good number of 21 and million is just because many had atleast 1 BTC Smiley
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September 07, 2014, 07:40:09 AM
#27
because there are totally 210000  tons of gold on earth
100BTC == 1 ton of gold  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Cheesy nice ,BTC is digital golden !!!
Yeah, BTC is the new gold.
sr. member
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September 07, 2014, 07:19:31 AM
#26
if true 21 million BTC is now circulating in the world, then maybe the BTC will be the number one crypto currencies in the world, because a lot of the wear BTC, it could have an impact on the exchange rate of BTC which will further increase, hopefully this will soon happen ...  Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 07, 2014, 05:52:06 AM
#25
If the number of coins was any different, would bitcoin have been less popular/more problematic?
I guess not!
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September 07, 2014, 05:42:51 AM
#24
because there are totally 210000  tons of gold on earth
100BTC == 1 ton of gold  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Cheesy nice ,BTC is digital golden !!!
hero member
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September 07, 2014, 05:25:23 AM
#23
Why was 21 million the number of bitcoins to be created?

Because that's how the mathematics worked out.

More specifically, it isn't 21 million.  It's actually 20999999.9769.  It's just easier for everyone to remember and say "There will never be more than 21 million created" than is is to say, "The maximum that could potentially have been created is twenty million nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine and nine thousand seven hundred sixty-nine ten-thousandths".

What Satoshi actually did was choose a reasonable sounding number 50 and decide that the block reward would be 50 bitcoins per block for the first 210,000 blocks.  Then he decided that in order to have a fixed quantity, but not have a sudden drop off, the block reward would be cut in half every 210,000 blocks.  If you do this cutting in half and adding up all the blocks (rounding down to the nearest satoshi value every time), you'll find that the exact amount of bitcoins that are created by the time the 6,930,000 the block is created is 20999999.9769

thanks a lot, DannyHamilton
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September 07, 2014, 04:41:34 AM
#22
May be Nokamoto created or thought of bitcoin while he was 21 years old.That's is unknown mystery
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September 07, 2014, 04:23:55 AM
#21
because there are totally 210000  tons of gold on earth
100BTC == 1 ton of gold  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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September 06, 2014, 07:44:45 PM
#20
Because it had to  some number.

Why you shirt is black/white/wharever color, and why it is 12:42:26 when I made this post?

Is there any hidden stuff about these facts?
newbie
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September 06, 2014, 06:39:20 PM
#19
Why was 21 million the number of bitcoins to be created?

I think it's difficult to say since no one here actually created Bitcoin.
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September 06, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
#18
6 blocks per hour
* 24 hours per day
* 365 days per year
* 4 years per cycle
= 210,240
~= 210,000
Sum all the block reward sizes:

50 + 25 + 12.5 + 6.25 + 3.125 + ... = 100
Multiply the two:

210,000 * 100 = 21 million

 Smiley
sr. member
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September 06, 2014, 08:10:39 AM
#17
This is something that always had me wondering, why was it 21? If I didn't know for sure or had not seen replies in this thread I would be certain that the reason was just a random number he chose. Never heard of any conspiracy theories myself however I agree there is always someone making a conspiracy theory out of something.
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September 06, 2014, 07:45:15 AM
#16
Isn't it a completely arbitrary number?  Roll Eyes
newbie
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September 05, 2014, 08:46:03 AM
#15
Why was 21 million the number of bitcoins to be created?

Some people look for conspiracy theories behind every simple thing.
legendary
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September 05, 2014, 01:47:57 AM
#14
There's also the fact that 21 million is within an order of magnitude of the maximum number (67,108,863.99999999) that can be precisely represented to 8 decimal places in double-precision floating-point format. That's probably not a coincidence.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
September 04, 2014, 03:21:36 PM
#13
21 million because it pays to be rich! lol idk but honestly....

it is because 21 million has a significant number, the legal drinking age in most states of U.S.A. Satoshi is also my uncle.

well, 21 is one of the perfect numbers

Quote
The 21 chapters of the Gospel of saint John, totaling 879 verses.

The 21 attributes of the Wisdom. (Ws 7,22-23)

Number of chapters of the book of Judges in the Old Testament.

During 21 days the Prince of the kingdom of Persia (protective angel of the enemy nations) resisted to the Michael Archangel as well as to the angel of the prophet Daniel. (Dn 10,13)

Jacob worked three times seven years to keep the herds of his uncle Laban to obtain two wives and two maidservant, who were used to him also as concubines as it was the habit to the period. (Gn 29,15-30)

this is also interesting

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For Claude of Saint-Martin, "the number 21 is the number of destruction or rather of universal termination, because, as 2 is separated from 1, it is necessary that it has a means of to unite there if it wants it. This number shows at the same time the command of the production of things and their end, as well in the spiritual one as in the corporal one."

Quote
Represent the harmony of the creation.

Source
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu21.php
legendary
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September 04, 2014, 02:07:18 PM
#12
arbitrary number i guess, or maybe he started from the block value, so why 50?
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