Topic: Why we love the rich and hate the poor - page 4. (Read 7143 times)

47% of people in the US do not pay any federal income taxes. This is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to incomes. If you want to talk about people needing to pay their fair share of income taxes then how is it fair that the lazy do not have to pay any taxes while the hardworking and successful need to pay upwards of 1/3 of their income in taxes.

Yeah but its still a joke. Most rich people i've ever meet are fund babbies. You have to be really stupid to fuck it up once you inherit.

Ya... sucks to be rich. I guess you just have to cry yourselves to sleep in your huge mansions on top of piles of money.

It's much higher because they produce much more (as long as it's a free market, not a hampered one).

you should compare the tax they pay to their income, not to the amount of people paying it.

because their income is WAY higher than the tax they pay.

A friend of mine always says "if life was a thing that money could buy, the rich gonna live and the poor gonna die , for a living dog is better than a dead lion''. it simply denotes that the rich get their way in relation to government and its provisions but the reverse is the case for the poor. 

Why do you think that? People that pay a lot of taxes want less government interventionism (unless they are crony capitalists), not more.

Democracy sucks. I wonder who would win if everyone got a number of votes in proportion to how much they have paid in direct taxes.

You always have the option of setting up foundations/ trusts and leave the management of these trusts to professionals. Just give the descendants a portion of the returns from the trust. The descendants cannot ruin the corpus, but receive enough to live a comfortable life.

The riches have their ways to make sure their own needs will be fullfiled, also have the means to get all their rights(lawers, contacts, etc..). The poors don't have money to hire lawers and don't have organization.

It is not about love, it is about who have more ways to do stuff

I think this is a sterotype. I would stand by my above argument as to how wealth is passed onto generation from generation. if wealth does not get passed onto a rich person's children it will be because they are spoiled.

What bills do you want the taxes of the rich to pay?  i guarantee that unless other STRICT spending measures are put in place 1st any additional money that is brought in will be spent in an unwise and non-beneficial way.  i'm middle class.  I work hard and enjoy a modest income.  but i hate paying taxes as much as the next guy.  specifically when I see tax money wasted (and we all know there are many ways to waste tax money) it burns me up.  I can only imagine if my tax bill were higher how much more "burned up" I would be by my money going to wasted things, REGARDLESS of how much I extra I was making/keeping.  people who dont get mad when money is wasted are bad people.  I work for my money and therefore want to see it go to good use, whether I'm the one spending it or not.  those of you that assume that the "rich" are not working for their money are blind.  I agree there are some who have money and are worthless (Kardashians anyone?) but like others have said if you have money and are a fool then it's only a matter of time before you lose it.  that's why we all hear stories of people that win the lottery and then are back in the broke house a few years later.  and it wasnt because now that they had money they decided to help the poor.  it was because they werent smart with the money.  if I were in charge of the lotteries I would make it mandatory to go through a certain number of hours of financial classes/consultation/etc before distributing amounts over 250000.  cause if by some sweet miracle i came in to 250000 i would be able to be debt free and do something I liked doing for a living (like teaching high school calculus) instead of being a computer consultant.  instead my older brother and I run a business that employs 18 total people and I make a good living doing something I dont really enjoy.  my younger brother, on the other hand, has good computer skills but WONT use them to make money and instead lives off the government or kindness (in other words ignorance) of strangers.  he says he doesnt enjoy it and it "hurts" him too much to do something he doesnt like doing.  too many of our "poor" are in fact lazy or spoiled as much/more so than the "rich kids" whom they despise.  i've spent 2 years living in a 3rd world country seeing how the real poor live, so forgive me for not having sympathy for most of America's "poor" cause they are in fact not poor in the least.

so take my tax money.  and while I wish it would be used for wise purposes - roads, infrastructure, small to moderate government, military, quality education (yeah right), services and help for the disabled, etc - dont expect me to pay more than I can get away with legally.  and am I going to feel guilty about eating a filet mignon now and then?  Hell no, cause I earned it.

/rant

Rich people were also once poor who got enough opportunities and good luck to get through the process of evolving through poor to rich

Wealthy family in general do not keep the wealth for more than a few generation. Wealthy kids tend to be spoiled and parents having marriage problems which keep propagating into future generation.

I know many poor friends who have nice skills in their job but without the right contacts they can't be promoted.

A person with a lot of skills can teach his skills to his son, and be a good roll model to him so his son can understand the value of hard work and perseverance.

There are a lot of family businesses when the children ran the business that the parents used to run because the parents were able to give their children enough exposure to the ins and outs of how to properly run the business and taught them the skills necessary to do so.

Ability to gain skill and perform great = predisponed by genetic and environmental factors = aka LUCK.

tell me more about the skill of the sons of the rich guy, there aren't new rich guys, we are talking about the established one, those are all lucky

A rich guy who is not smart enough will wile away his entire fortune. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Define skill.