Topic: Why would I buy an asset? Poll, discussion and help - page 2. (Read 1869 times)

Yes, this will be strongest rational argument, I think. And it might be realistic, even though, of course, speculative.

But I have a question to the people who voted that they expect the dividends to return the investment:

Is this even possible? Do you you know of any asset that pays such high dividends that you win so much that the buying price returns? How long will this take? Could you name a concrete example with an existing asset and how long the ROI (return of investment) will take? Did you buy the asset at an extremly cheap price?

And I repeat my question to the people who believe they own a part of the enterprise. Which asset has such rules? Is there really some "real world" value in the asset? Isn't it just worth something if the people believe it is worth something? Will you get anything if the enterprise is liquidated (by selling their office furniture or machines, for example)? Why isn't the intrinsic value zero, as I believe? Please explain...

Hi, I added

'I despise banksters, they are doing evil, I believe cryptoassets as alternative will better the world'.

If you read the answers, you may notice that I put some critique into my questions, so I hope the questions are not too manipulative. But I couldn't resist to change your answer a little bit: Because I think the refusal of banks is a contra argument for a fiat share but not a pro argument for a cryptoinvestment. Only if you wanted to invest your money anyway, you will choose the alternative. So I think, the answers were already there in form of the comparison with the fiat shares/stocks.

Just despising banks could also be a reason to not buy any assets at all. Personally, I believe that the cryptomarket will not be very different concerning "good and evil" in the world. It's another financial system, more a parallel one than an opposing system to the older system. Mainly, good and evil in people and in the world will not change very much just because of cryptocurrencies. Even worse, with uncontrolled cryptomarket, the money laundering and market for weapons will be happy, but the people will suffer from those weapons (or drugs). The greed and lies are in the traditional banking system as well as in the crypto system. Well, that's just my humble opinion.

I seems most of ppl choose the "I expect to sell it at a higher price, I speculate (buy and sell) ". Ppl are buying assets for the  profit.

Yes:

( ) I despise banksters who have -legally- stolen from the people for centuries, and undermine democracy, erode social cohesion, accelerate the destruction of nature, and cause wars. Good that cryptos offer an alternative financial market now.

 

Or less emotionally charged:

( ) I like it that cryptos offer an alternative financial market.

 

Hi altsheets, thank you for your interest and participation   ! Would you mind logging in your three chosen answers (I think you haven't) or do you want to keep it like this?

Any suggestions for additional possible answers?

Interesting poll.

This is what I initially selected:

 I want to help the asset issuer (crowdfunding good ideas)
 I expect to sell it at a higher price, I speculate (buy and sell)
 I expect the dividends to return my investment
 I don't have access to fiat shares/stocks/crowdfunding, so I use cryptoassets
 I want to learn about assets and to buy a small amount is the best way

but if I have only three choices I'd go for this:

 I want to help the asset issuer (crowdfunding good ideas)
 I expect to sell it at a higher price, I speculate (buy and sell)
 I expect the dividends to return my investment

:-)

Hi there,

Why would I buy an asset?

In this poll, each user has 3 votes for his/her top reasons. Changing your vote later is allowed.

(If you are interested in what an asset is and how it's done, you can find some information in this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-buy-assets-on-horizon-the-complete-process-explained-for-newbies-1006327 )


As I am interested myself, but see many confusing things here, I try to make the reasons to buy or not to buy an asset clear for myself and others.

I also think, there are many irrational factors and manipulative things going on in this area and I would like to reduce this for the best of the good ideas.

It's clear that an asset helps the issuer of that asset, but what does the buyer get out of it?

So here are some reasons I can think of. You can help to complete the list if I forgot something important, but I am not always active here.

And don't forget to discuss it. I still have questions, too.

My first question is about the intrinsic value, compared to a fiat money enterprise share/stock: When I own an asset, do I own a part of the enterprise by that? That means, is there some value in the asset beyond the speculation that someone will pay dividends or buy the asset from me? That also means: Do I get a share when the asset issuers sell or liquidate their business? (I guess that currently, there are no such things or guarantees at all in this unregulated market. Is it even legal...?)

Have fun.