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October 30, 2020, 11:18:57 AM
#31
I read what you posted on that article and you only present one side of the coin, you only present the good aspects that make margin trading attractive and why many people try to use it on the first pace, why do not we talk about the other side, if you lose 10% in a single trade if you leverage that with 10x then you lose all your capital, and if you use 100x then a 1% loss is enough to wipe out your account.

I think you are taking the wrong approach here, the question should be who can trade using leverage and do it without destroying their accounts in days or weeks? And the only ones that can do that are expert traders, newbies should stay away from it until they have showed themselves they can make money consistently on the markets and they have a solid money management strategy.

Yes he didn't say that the leverage can also amply the loss not to mention that its hard to do it on exchanges particularly in binance because you have to be in the right page, right button and then shift to another page to place the order. Train yourself well because its risky and not as intuitive as spot market interface.

Remember that the loan will have an interest and when you execute short/long, you risk yourself with margin level which you don't wanna get liquidated.
And that bothers me, after all there is no need to hide it, to begin with almost all the information you could be interested in is on the Internet already, so anyone interested looking at margin trading will see that their losses can be multiplied as well, so what is the purpose of not mentioning in an article that tries to promote it? In my opinion there are only two reasons, one the person is not as knowledgeable about the subject as he is trying to make us believe.

Or the second option is that he is trying to hide that information from newbies because he knows they are not going to make any kind of deep research on the subject and they will begin margin trading despite the fact only experts should use it due to the enormous risks they are taking.
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October 29, 2020, 09:53:20 AM
#30
Leverage trading, also known as margin trading, is when a trading platform allows you to increase your capital through borrowed funds and leverage your trade.

Today we discuss why we think trading with leverage is a good idea

You know it's not very nice to talk about things you know nothing about to just get some more views for your steemit page and get some beginners in trading trapped into leveraged trading.

I believe it's the opposite and you should never trade "Cryptocurrencies" on leverage, leverage at the start was a way to increase the volatility of the price of different assets/currencies to make them more trade worthy and maybe more profitable like what you see right now traders in Forex do, in Forex market currencies only go up or down about 0.5-3% maximum in a day which makes sense for a trader to use a little leverage on it while in crypto market a coin/token can change 20-50% in just a single day easily and fast too and if you use leverage on crypto you can lose it all in just a blink of an eye.

The bottom line is crypto is by itself is volatile enough and you don't need leverage to make crypto trading any more risky.

We appreciate your feedback and views. Trading crypto can be risky - yes, but with the right knowledge and expertise, huge profits can be made.
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October 28, 2020, 07:20:29 PM
#29
There are pro traders who know how to use effectively the leverage for boosting their profit but the leverage can be a tool for melting the balance faster than anything else. Saving the balance is not possible if the risk lovers gonna trade the highly volatile markets with 1:500 leverage. In the normal financial markets, the 1:10 leverage is normal for trading assets but the crpyot industry is known as the daily 30% price change, so the point here is to take into consideration the possible risks with all aspects.
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October 28, 2020, 07:11:23 PM
#28
You are actually putting a trader at high risk and a misserable life if they got in trouble with his trading life. What a leverage strategy can do to confidently have the assurace to someone that will use this? Probably not. And to know that Marging trading or leverage trading is not for noobs, but for those who have a long experience in trading.
Better stop assuming that this will give help and they can benefit from this but rather to say also the possible negative results in order to keep everyone informed about leverage trading, not to mislead them.
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October 28, 2020, 06:40:12 PM
#27
For me who has a bad experience using margin trading features, it is certainly not a good idea to make profit from trading.
I have lost up to $ 1000 in just a few days trading with leverage, According to me, only professional traders and those who
have large capital can trade with leverage. For me spot trading or manual trading is the best for making profit.
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Blackjack.fun
October 28, 2020, 05:41:56 PM
#26
Sometimes I swear the luckiest newbies are the ones who've never even heard of margin/leverage, because it's so easy to lose everything in a short period of time if you don't know what you're doing. 

Yup and the author is trying to make sure that everybody finds out about leverage trading as soon as possible.  Grin

You know it's not very nice to talk about things you know nothing about to just get some more views for your steemit page and get some beginners in trading trapped into leveraged trading.

Oh, but he knows a lot, look at his name which by coincidence is the same name as the exchange that the steemit article points to, his other two little posts with timid shilling for snapex and you get the idea. Nobody is going to tell that you can lose all your money with their business, you don't see posters with beggars in the ads of casinos, you don't see pictures with poor people on the walls of a betting cafe.

Those things are just on the 134th page somewhere in the terms and conditions.

If you're still new to trading is preferable to stick to spot trading, the worst scenario will only result to you losing few percentage of your portfolio provided you had the stoploss feature setup.

A few percentages at a time, and if you lose twice in a raw you will take higher risks and those percentages will increase till there is one big flat zero in your account. I think that not only you shouldn't trade with money you are borrowing or you can't afford to lose but more important in trading I think that you need to know when to give up when it's clear you're not cut for this. Not everyone can be a good doctor, not everyone can be a successful trader if we could all be then there would be no more poverty in the world as we would be making tons of money.
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October 28, 2020, 05:59:02 AM
#25
Leverage trading, also known as margin trading, is when a trading platform allows you to increase your capital through borrowed funds and leverage your trade.

Today we discuss why we think trading with leverage is a good idea

You know it's not very nice to talk about things you know nothing about to just get some more views for your steemit page and get some beginners in trading trapped into leveraged trading.

I believe it's the opposite and you should never trade "Cryptocurrencies" on leverage, leverage at the start was a way to increase the volatility of the price of different assets/currencies to make them more trade worthy and maybe more profitable like what you see right now traders in Forex do, in Forex market currencies only go up or down about 0.5-3% maximum in a day which makes sense for a trader to use a little leverage on it while in crypto market a coin/token can change 20-50% in just a single day easily and fast too and if you use leverage on crypto you can lose it all in just a blink of an eye.

The bottom line is crypto is by itself is volatile enough and you don't need leverage to make crypto trading any more risky.
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October 27, 2020, 07:36:37 PM
#24
OP, if I wanted to discuss margin trading on steemit, I'd just go there.  If you want to start up a discussion on bitcointalk, just start it up here instead of linking out to steemit.  It's annoying.

I think you are taking the wrong approach here, the question should be who can trade using leverage and do it without destroying their accounts in days or weeks?
Sometimes I swear the luckiest newbies are the ones who've never even heard of margin/leverage, because it's so easy to lose everything in a short period of time if you don't know what you're doing. 

I fully understand how using leverage works and how it can potentially increase your profits to an extent that would be impossible without using leverage--but I've never purchased stocks, crypto, or anything else on margin and don't ever intend to.  For one thing, it's akin to gambling, which I detest; and second, margin is debt.  That's something I also detest and try to avoid at all costs.  I'd rather buy an investment with money that's mine instead of borrowing someone else's to buy it with. 

But hey, to each his own and good luck to any of you who're trading on margin.
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October 27, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
#23
Its good only for veteran traders because leberage or marginal trading needs to pay the interest rate. And margin trading is so much stressful specially when your positions had been liquidated. I believe that spot trading will less your stress and as well as you are confident to lose because you don't have to cover your loans at exact time.
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October 27, 2020, 04:42:03 PM
#22
Here are some good links to be seen on towards Leverage.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/07/forex_leverage.asp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHUXYDtwAqY

Sounds to easy and profitable but when you are on the amidst of this leverage trading then you surely
felt that you're playing with fire.
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October 27, 2020, 06:59:51 AM
#21
I read what you posted on that article and you only present one side of the coin, you only present the good aspects that make margin trading attractive and why many people try to use it on the first pace, why do not we talk about the other side, if you lose 10% in a single trade if you leverage that with 10x then you lose all your capital, and if you use 100x then a 1% loss is enough to wipe out your account.
True and the crypto market is so volatile that 10-15% change is normal within weeks and even days at times specially with altcoins because they are even more volatile than bitcoins. But that said if you do a sensible leverage trading and use 3x or 5x at max then actually chances are less that the value will drop as much as quickly and you can see some funds in balance for sudden changes and you can put some extra money when market drops.

I think you are taking the wrong approach here, the question should be who can trade using leverage and do it without destroying their accounts in days or weeks? And the only ones that can do that are expert traders, newbies should stay away from it until they have showed themselves they can make money consistently on the markets and they have a solid money management strategy.
For sure newbies should not even think of leverage trading and one thing that people miss about leverage trading is that you have to pay some interest, although small, to the lender because you basically borrow money from them and you always feel the heat of paying interest so you make rush trades a lot of time to make things happen and one thing everyone must avoid in leverage trading is rush because it can empty all your balance.
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October 27, 2020, 05:55:27 AM
#20
Leverage trading, also known as margin trading, is when a trading platform allows you to increase your capital through borrowed funds and leverage your trade.

There's this popular saying of not trading with funds you can't afford to lose, also don't trade with borrowed money as your emotions might cause you to make unhealthy decision. Now advising newbie to adventure into leverage trading goes against all those tips as basically what you're saying is borrowing money to trade which obviously is money the borrowers can't afford to lose.

The last dump saw many leverage traders longing bitcoin getting rekted. Leverage trading isn't meant to be tried by inexperience traders and if you're in that category but have tried leverage trading and profited, that doesn't mean you're a pro but just lucky. Even professional traders get it all wrong sometime and loses funds that meant demoralized them from trading.

If you're still new to trading is preferable to stick to spot trading, the worst scenario will only result to you losing few percentage of your portfolio provided you had the stoploss feature setup.
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October 27, 2020, 05:34:17 AM
#19
I don't use leverage trading, but I have the experience to use leverage before the bitcoin price touch $19k a few years ago. At that time, I can buy bitcoin at $3k and leave it grows price by price, and close the trade at $18,700. That is the biggest profit that I can make a few years ago, and I know that I can make another big profit in the future.

Oh yeah, and you made such profits by telling people to buy the dip at 18,200? Just for fun let's imagine you would have gone x10 long on that price, how much profit you would have made?   Grin

I will complete this thread with "why shouldn't you use leverage?"
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The first thing is not to use exchange or derivatives exchange that is trying to gain visitors with articles in which they throw a bit of general ingo and 80% advertise their platform. The general rule is that when a stranger tells you his platform is the best for earning money and there is no disadvantage and no risk or he avoids telling about that it's a good thing to avoid him also.

Also, one more thing to add to your list: You can't afford to lose the money you're playing with.
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October 27, 2020, 12:39:00 AM
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I don't use leverage trading, but I have the experience to use leverage before the bitcoin price touch $19k a few years ago. At that time, I can buy bitcoin at $3k and leave it grows price by price, and close the trade at $18,700. That is the biggest profit that I can make a few years ago, and I know that I can make another big profit in the future.

But today, I realize that use leverage trading can't just depend on your luck because bitcoin price now moves without we can't predict. Even if we can buy bitcoin at a low price, it doesn't mean that the price can't go lower a few days or months later. Perhaps, you can close the trade after making a profit, so you don't risk your money to expect to make a bigger profit.

I prefer to use the usual trading type at the exchanges and don't trade using leverage, especially if we don't have the skills to analyze where the trend will move.
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October 26, 2020, 09:24:06 PM
#17
I don't think you should be basing a guide or a tip based on how much one can actually earn. You should base it on the chances of one can earn. It isn't always about making the biggest money out of an opportunity, it's about making an opportunity to create money. The guide pretty much indicates the advantages of leverage, which, in tl;dr terms, it makes you earn more money, but the risk also increases together with it. There were quite a lot of advantages indicated in the article, but never disadvantages. Even if you were to advertise something, a negative output would actually be quite helpful, ones that are painfully obvious and part of that certain feature specifically.
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October 26, 2020, 09:09:07 PM
#16
Leveraged trading is for advanced traders only.

I will complete this thread with "why shouldn't you use leverage?"
- you are not an active trader (do not have target times)
- you don't know much about technical analysis
- You have poor emotional control
- your trading portfolio is not good enough
- you want independent trading capital and pure profit
- you do not want to be bothered with warnings and do not want your account to be closed unilaterally.
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October 26, 2020, 08:44:32 PM
#15
The article says a lot of good stuffs about leveraging and that is right but i do not suggest this one to newbies because leveraging is not an ordinary trading, you must understand everything first. I did loose money in leveraging and i wont try it again so there is no must to trade using leveraging. It will depend on you, and on your plan in trading.
That's how you advertise things, more on the good feedback and never share the bad side.
Leveraging can be profitable of course but it requires the skill to analyze what indicators to be use, we should not put ourselves into something we are not familiar with, well everything can be learned its just a matter of time and sacrifices. Exhanges offer a great margin trading platform, all you have to do is to learn the platform and if you are a confident trader and a risk taker, you can consider this one that's your choice.
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October 26, 2020, 07:07:01 PM
#14
The article says a lot of good stuffs about leveraging and that is right but i do not suggest this one to newbies because leveraging is not an ordinary trading, you must understand everything first. I did loose money in leveraging and i wont try it again so there is no must to trade using leveraging. It will depend on you, and on your plan in trading.
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October 26, 2020, 06:58:35 PM
#13
After reading the article, thought about the important points of leverage in trading. The double-edged sword can be a powerful gun but having decent skills will protect the trader from cutting his body parts. The high leverage is overkill dose for new traders but experienced traders know how to use this financial tool professionally. Due to volatile crypto markets, accepting or cutting loss is essential especially if the trader use 1:100 leverage or higher. Some forex brokers have high leverage offers for shares and they just included crypto pairs on this list.
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October 26, 2020, 06:55:57 PM
#12
We should also talk about how the huge risk when a trader using leverage.
It's a huge risk and for me, it's not a newbie-friendly. So if there will be a user may see this thread, I really advise don't start with leverage trading when you are starting to trade or doing practice. Go try to use first spot trading, even me now, I am using a very small amount of leverage.
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