Topic: Why your data needs to be encrypted - page 3. (Read 1164 times)

Well VPNs and Tor are nothing a like in terms of trust. Tor isn't a service offered by someone, it is a protocol, same as Bitcoin. It is open source and people run it just like they run Bitcoin full nodes. No one guarantees you the price of Bitcoin and no one guarantees you privacy in Tor, but VPNs do and that is exactly what is the problem as it means that they control it and therefor can guarantee it.


To be honest, if it is closed source, it isn't part of Ubuntu, it is something you downloaded independently and your OS allowed you to, since it is open source and is fully controlled by you. To go further, even your processor isn't open source. Intel can control processors remotely and where there is a backdoor, there is a vector of an attack for the hackers. There was a vulnerability in that system this year, that allowed server to be hacked remotely by directly hacking a processor and it necer even reaching your OS and it's defense software. https://thehackernews.com/2017/05/intel-server-chipsets.html


Yeah, that is the argument of many people, they say they have nothing to hide. First of all, yes you do, otherwise you would be walking around naked in public and tell everyone your every secret. Secondly, you can't know that just because it is safe now for someone to know your secret that it will be just as safe to know them in the future. What if your government decides to retroactively target anyone with certain views or something that was legal before. It is best not to give someone information they don't need as you never know what it might get used for in the future and whatever it does get used for, it will certainly involve you, as it is information about you. Don't trust anything, everyone gets corrupt if they get enough power. just search for "Stanford prison experiment" and you will see that absolutely average normal students become monster if you allow them. We are all animals, every government official will abuse his position if he feels safe enough.

u know dude, the problem is sometime people really dont care about their privacy. because they think that there is no meaningful data to be hidden. and also, they believe in a system that ensures that their data is secure. if I am a rich man, have a lot of money in the bank and have secret data that other people should not know maybe I will follow your advice .. but for now I am more comfortable to use WA and Crome

There are some components of Ubuntu that are closed source, with most of it being drivers. It is also possible for governments to tamper with open source projects to leave subtle exploits wide open. The BIOS of your computer is likely to be closed-source as well, so there may be backdoor exploits in that too.

Forget about Free service dude, the paid services aren't also 100% guarantee our privacy
By the way, I love that qoute
WHEN THE SERVICE IS FREE YOU ARE^* THE PRODUCT
*⁾ we are

That's the big problem mate. I also sometime because I'm in a hurry and I need that application, I flag the "agreement statement" without even look at it.
So there happens when you get screwed. But you HAVE to know that you can risk at least and that's what the 95% of the people doesn't know.

I mean why haven't you been asking why big G had made so many buck ?
They think "ok Gmail is free - great! " and never wonder why..

Buddy I see you get the point. Of course It's the safest of all if you can control everything of what you are doing but at the end you have to trust something. I mean if you drive the car, you feel safe push the brake when you need it, but who garante that? The car's makers so you trust them.
However something can go wrong something and does not work as it was supposed to do.

In the same way you have to trust something in what you are believing. But to make everything works for a common folk something needs to be easy - so in the end how can you control everything if you don't make it by yourself ?


If a VPN is FREE do you think it's safe enough ?
WHEN THE SERVICE IS FREE YOU ARE THE PRODUCT

Yeah, many people does not aware of their privacy. Most of people never reads term of services and privacy policy. Finally every single person take responsibility for their own privacy. Not to get safest, but to reduce to be tracked. For those who are not do something private, maybe they will be ok feel comfort to go public. Nothing to hide and let the any service provider grab their behavior and their habit during goes online. I'm not one of them.

Privacy and security topics are always interesting and nowadays most of people doesn't really care about that. Almost every platform, from device, OS, networks are not safe. And about the tittle of this threads, I agree that our data needs to be encrypted as long as you are the only one who can decrypt it. If you can't, sorry to say, then just a bullshit. Many services offers protection, VPN, Tor, or something like that are not guarantees that you are absolutely safe. It's just minimalized the public exposures like trackers. Who can guarantee that those 'privacy services providers' are not collecting your data?

by the way, I like those movies you mentioned above.

Thanks buddy.
That's why this forum is all about. Make every people aware what it's really going on lately on the web site.
It's a freedom place from censuring and we can talk almost everything especially those topic the mass media has been trying to manipulate as usual . Because they are not so easy to understand at first sight many people believe what other are saying and not study themselves if it really true or not.

This is really interesting. Thank you for the information. I never thought of data encryption until now.  I have learnt from the various post here.

Yes, I guess people should be responsible towards themselves and use only TOR and encrypted data communications.

Are you really sure about that?
What if I were an hacker and get your personal details: like where your finance lives, which are your Bank accounts, what time you leaves the house at morning, ...

These data I can easely find in your cellphone.
Don't think everyone is a good person.
I might suppose you protect your home from thieves - you'd better protect your personal data beforse someone could stole them.

Pefectly agreed with you. Only when they'll see how bad it could be, they'll start to consider not just give their data to everyone for free.
Nobody tought them how to do it so they are doing like others: just ignoring the issue.

Protect your privacy as you protect your house: it is the same even if you don't see it.

Be aware of the IT things

Even if you encrypt whom you are communicating with often is not hidden and it seems to be what the government is after.

With your cell phone its location is known all the time. I don't understand why this isn't thought of as a violation of privacy?

I get the principle behind it and do encrypt sensitive things but the vast majority of what I do I don’t care if anyone sees it.

most of our data is normal and not high to be worry if other watch and deep net so danger because many hacker can easy hack your data

The Ubuntu source code is available to everyone, right? So I don't think that they will be harvesting the user data. Also, Ubuntu doesn't have the corporate structure of ownership like Windows or Mac OS does. That is why I prefer Ubuntu to keep my data away from the prying eyes of the authorities, when compared to Mac OS and MS Windows.

Almost all OS for computer and smartphone are large, complicated programs. Who knows if Windows 10 harvests or doesn't harvest info in some way? Even Ubuntu has grown to gigantic size, and is constantly being upgraded almost on a daily basis. Mac OSX is gigantic, as well.

If you are really interested in safety, you need to use a little OS like Puppy Linux, and totally - Veracrypt - encrypt any info you want to send by Windows, Mac, or big Linus OSs. And you need to do this before placing the encrypted files onto the big OS.

Not trusting companies and governments is crucial for security as well. Privacy and security often go together.
You should use open source software only, that is your best bet. So running a Linux based OS, for example, is crucial, otherwise anything you do is in the hands of Windows and hacks that happen all the time on that OS.
Neither Whatsup nor Google Chrome is open source, so don't use that either. The Tor part I agree with as well of course.
Tails OS was always best for privacy, but it is harder to make it persistent, so other Linux distributions should be good as well.

I wish all these recommendations you are making were enough.
One of the problems is: people just don't care enough about their privacy to protect it. In order to be "like everybody else", connected and up-to-date with the news, they just ignore these privacy issues.