Why's PrimeNumber7 trust different # +

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Thanks suchmoon. If the reason the # shows is because of the flag I've been given a new forum lesson today. I'll put DefaultTrust back after I've discovered more about what it's doing when it's in.

Quote from: suchmoon on August 11, 2023, 04:35:47 PM

Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 11, 2023, 03:59:19 PM

My trust list's empty I didn't add any names to trust or ~

It's difficult to work out why # shows in PrimeNumber7's profile. Add or remove DefaultTrust to trust settings doesn't affect it because # stays. It doesn't affect me when I'm online. Some users see it's there some don't so if theymos posts what's behind it I'd like to know.

Your question has already been answered. The "#" shows by default because of the the flag that QuickNumber has. You can verify that by adding ";dt" to the URL, e.g.:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/primenumber7-2561166

Users that don't see it most likely have custom trust lists that include more of the users that oppose the flag, or exclude more of the users that support it, compared to default trust. They can also verify this by adding ";dt" to the URL, liked decodx did.

There is no bug or anything else for theymos to address.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 11, 2023, 03:59:19 PM

My trust list's empty I didn't add any names to trust or ~

It's difficult to work out why # shows in PrimeNumber7's profile. Add or remove DefaultTrust to trust settings doesn't affect it because # stays. It doesn't affect me when I'm online. Some users see it's there some don't so if theymos posts what's behind it I'd like to know.

Your question has already been answered. The "#" shows by default because of the the flag that QuickNumber has. You can verify that by adding ";dt" to the URL, e.g.:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/primenumber7-2561166

Users that don't see it most likely have custom trust lists that include more of the users that oppose the flag, or exclude more of the users that support it, compared to default trust. They can also verify this by adding ";dt" to the URL, liked decodx did.

There is no bug or anything else for theymos to address.

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My trust list's empty I didn't add any names to trust or ~

It's difficult to work out why # shows in PrimeNumber7's profile. Add or remove DefaultTrust to trust settings doesn't affect it because # stays. It doesn't affect me when I'm online. Some users see it's there some don't so if theymos posts what's behind it I'd like to know.

Quote from: Wapfika on August 11, 2023, 07:17:26 AM

Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 11, 2023, 05:43:06 AM

I've removed DefaultTrust from my trust settings trust list. PrimeNumber7's still got # trust.

Why's it happening some members can't see it when we're using the same trust settings? You & decodx can't see # in PrimeNumber7's trust but me, acroman08, BlackBoss_, hosseinimr93 can. So it is a bug in coding?

It’s not a bug but rather the display will varies based on your custom trust list. Can you specify whose on your trust list?

Probably, You and decodx has a custom trust list that doesn’t trust all the DT who supports/oppose the flags which is the main factor on what to reflect on the trust list of user using your accounts.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 11, 2023, 05:43:06 AM

I've removed DefaultTrust from my trust settings trust list. PrimeNumber7's still got # trust.

Why's it happening some members can't see it when we're using the same trust settings? You & decodx can't see # in PrimeNumber7's trust but me, acroman08, BlackBoss_, hosseinimr93 can. So it is a bug in coding?

It’s not a bug but rather the display will varies based on your custom trust list. Can you specify whose on your trust list?

Probably, You and decodx has a custom trust list that doesn’t trust all the DT who supports/oppose the flags which is the main factor on what to reflect on the trust list of user using your accounts.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

From memory, suchmoon thinks PrimeNumber7 is quickseller, but hasn't offered any evidence to support that hypothesis.

There is evidence. Reference link in the negative trust rating points to it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primenumber7-is-an-alt-of-quickseller-take-2-5219253

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

The trust feedback suchmoon left is trust abuse as it does not concern a trade between the two which is why many including myself DT distrust suchmoon's trust feedbacks.

Trust feedback does not have to be about a trade between the two users. Perhaps you should read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

Other's who have been on the receiving end of suchmoon's wrath include: e.g.

suchmoon is trolling people topics and leaving negative feedbacks for no reason

I don't think that bringing up death threats supports your argument here.

Timelord's delusions notwithstanding, I would encourage anyone who thinks that Quickseller and PrimeNumber7 are not the same person, and/or that Quickseller deserves a second chance, or any shit like that - please exclude me from your trust list. Obviously you don't trust my judgement, and that's what exclusions are for.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 11, 2023, 04:33:42 AM

If it's displaying # for flags why can't decodx see it. He's used multiple browsers.

I can see it now when I put the ;dt switch at the end of the url. Like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/primenumber7-2561166
That means it has something to do with my custom trust list. I need to look into it further...

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Quote from: PrimeNumber7 on August 10, 2023, 10:19:33 PM

I would suggest that anyone reading this to oppose the relevant flags.

I would suggest anyone reading this to do their own research before making a decision on whether to support or oppose the relevant flags, or whether to abstain altogether.

I really don't know what was funnier, that he tried to maintain two separate personalities for years (often failing), that he nominated himself as Newbie of the Year Cheesy

or that he threw a party for himself after reaching Legendary (again, though he of course pretended it was for the first time).

Quote from: Last of the V8s on January 06, 2020, 03:44:40 PM

Look no one wants drama in a nice thread
but
who on earth nominated quickseller's alt? the primenumber7 guy

Also, sorry I can't answer your question OP. But I was just doing some revisiting and this is one time where I really wish I could merit myself:

Quote from: nutildah on July 03, 2021, 10:34:30 PM

I just didn't want to be the first to rain on the parade. Now that its already wet, what's the difference. Wait... What I mean to say is I would never do such a thing.

Quote from: suchmoon on July 03, 2021, 10:02:31 PM

Sorry (not really) to rain on your parade Quick7 but nutildah seems to be asleep and it has to be done.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primenumber7-is-an-alt-of-quickseller-take-2-5219253

Verdict's still out about that thread, it's been rebuffed by some pretty reputable sources.

Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 20, 2020, 02:45:47 PM

i dunno, the evidence seems really flimsy to me.

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I've removed DefaultTrust from my trust settings trust list. PrimeNumber7's still got # trust.

Why's it happening some members can't see it when we're using the same trust settings? You & decodx can't see # in PrimeNumber7's trust but me, acroman08, BlackBoss_, hosseinimr93 can. So it is a bug in coding?

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 11, 2023, 05:28:02 AM

Since I've basically stopped caring and paying attention to the trust system, I wasn't aware of the '#' either. With my trust list wiped clean, the display under members' avatars all looks the same. Nice and clean.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

From memory, suchmoon thinks PrimeNumber7 is quickseller, but hasn't offered any evidence to support that hypothesis.

Oh wow, I completely forgot about that--that allegation was made years ago, and there was another alt of his that was exposed around the same time, which was probably when QS was trying to defend his escrow scam (which I'm not trying to dredge up, btw).

Since I've basically stopped caring and paying attention to the trust system, I wasn't aware of the '#' either. With my trust list wiped clean, the display under members' avatars all looks the same. Nice and clean.

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Quote from: decodx on August 10, 2023, 07:08:31 PM

It must be something on your end because I don't see it. Tested on multiple browsers. Do you have any userscripts, like Tampermonkey, running or something like that?

I'm using Tor browser I haven't added scripts. I don't use my trust settings trust list it's got DefaultTrust so I've removed to test. It's still the same with the # sign on PrimeNumber7.

Quote from: acroman08 on August 10, 2023, 07:14:23 PM

I think it means that there is an active flag against the user. if you look at 1xbit accounts that have active flags against them, they have the "#" sign on their trust and if you look for other accounts that have flags against them but are inactive the "#" sign is not visible.

Quote from: BlackBoss_ on August 10, 2023, 07:28:35 PM

It is an icon for flag.

Quote from: hosseinimr93 on August 10, 2023, 07:35:25 PM

This is True.
There's a # sign for every user who has active type 1 flag and !!!: for every user who has active type 2 flag or active type 3 flag.

If it's displaying # for flags why can't decodx see it. He's used multiple browsers.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 11, 2023, 01:25:25 AM

You probably should have followed the second link instead of one random link provided that was used an example.

I followed the link you provided, don't give me that.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 11, 2023, 01:25:25 AM

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I see 3 DTs supporting the flag and 2 DTs opposing it.

No, I never said that. What I said was

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You can see there are more people who oppose that flag then support it.

I know what you said, you don't need to repeat it. Shall I repeat what I said? It doesn't matter how many people oppose the flag, what matters is whether they are in DT or not. And this brings me to the next point:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 11, 2023, 01:25:25 AM

Being appointed to DT 1 occurs each month, so next month it may well be the scores are swapped which cancels your argument.

None of those who are not in DT are going to be put in DT2 .

6 DT1 distrust primenumber7 while only 1 trusts him.
5 DT1 distrust hacker1001101001 and no DT1 trusts him.
24 DT1 distrust nullius while only 2 trust him.
lighpulsar was banned
You also have many more DT1 distrusting you than trusting you.

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You probably should have followed the second link instead of one random link provided that was used an example.

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I see 3 DTs supporting the flag and 2 DTs opposing it.

No, I never said that. What I said was

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You can see there are more people who oppose that flag then support it.

Being appointed to DT 1 occurs each month, so next month it may well be the scores are swapped which cancels your argument.

Please don't try to reinterpret what I said.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

suchmoon is trolling people topics and leaving negative feedbacks for no reason

Do you really think that can you use a thread created by a guy with 11 red tags in his profile to prove anything against suchmoon at all? Huh

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2023, 08:48:21 PM

You can see there are more people who oppose that flag then support it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2561166;dt

With the time you have been on the forum, you are consciously misrepresenting. I see 3 DTs supporting the flag and 2 DTs opposing it. It doesn't matter that there are two dozen forum members who oppose the flag if they are not in DT.

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There are quarks in the trust system. They are explained in the above posts.

I would suggest that anyone reading this to oppose the relevant flags.

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From memory, suchmoon thinks PrimeNumber7 is quickseller, but hasn't offered any evidence to support that hypothesis.

You can see there are more people who oppose that flag then support it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2561166;dt

The trust feedback suchmoon left is trust abuse as it does not concern a trade between the two which is why many including myself DT distrust suchmoon's trust feedbacks.

Other's who have been on the receiving end of suchmoon's wrath include: e.g.

suchmoon is trolling people topics and leaving negative feedbacks for no reason

there are too many posts (2,400) concerning suchmoon's trolling https://ninjastic.space/search?title=suchmoon (and those are just the ones with suchmoon in the title!)

If you agree that suchmoon shouldn't be trusted, then read this: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 10, 2023, 07:14:23 PM

I think it means that there is an active flag against the user.

This is True.
There's a # sign for every user who has active type 1 flag and !!!: for every user who has active type 2 flag or active type 3 flag.

Here is an example of a user with active type 3 flag.

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It is an icon for flag.

Trust flags
[Guide] Overview of trust flags

With some examples.
elmanchez
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elmanchez's active type 3 flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2553198

Quote from: theymos on June 11, 2019, 11:09:00 PM

Here someone created a contract-violation flag:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=9
Since that's clearly a test account, feel free to support it or oppose it as a test.

Note that right now it's only linked in a small note on the target user's trust page:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2626817
And listed on their inactive-flags page:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2626817;page=iflags
And shown as an entry in the sender's sent ratings:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2626816;page=sent

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I think it means that there is an active flag against the user. if you look at 1xbit accounts that have active flags against them, they have the "#" sign on their trust and if you look for other accounts that have flags against them but are inactive the "#" sign is not visible.

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Quote from: arabspaceship123 on August 10, 2023, 06:53:59 PM

It's the only user stats I've seen showing dual # + trust rating. If others display it what's the # mean? I'm posting in Meta I didn't find any where else more suitable. Is it a code bug?

It must be something on your end because I don't see it. Tested on multiple browsers. Do you have any userscripts, like Tampermonkey, running or something like that?

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It's the only user stats I've seen showing dual # + trust rating. If others display it what's the # mean? I'm posting in Meta I didn't find any where else more suitable. Is it a code bug?

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