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Topic: why's the price going down again? is it the China 'tards dumping again? - page 3. (Read 3689 times)

hero member
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Do you not know how to read a chart and analyze a trend? When price is close to the downtrend, the market is just looking for any excuse to go down. This is going to persist until there is a significant increase in volume to terminate the trend and there is a powerful spike above the line.

There are analysts left right and centre scrutinising Bitcoin. Some of them are bullish, some of them are bearish. Thus they are looking at the same data and coming to different conclusions. How could that be?

So what trend are we looking at here?

Trend on 4hr hour chart on correction from bounce since 16th April?

If so, then I make the upper reaches of that corrective trend to currently be around $460, and the lower reaches to be $400. We are currently at $450. All the bigger purchases are eating into the Ask wall, not selling into Bid wall (on circlejerking Bitstamp anyhow). So we are at the upper extremities of the correction trend, buying pressure seems to be having the upper hand. We have had a textbook 60% retrace from the bounce up from the bottom, several indicators are showing signs of recovering from an overly depressed state, the 1 day MACD is looking as though it ready to cross......

......what is not to like for the bullish near term case?

I agree with you, Bitcoin for me right now as a long investment is as I said, 'skating on thin ice' (i.e. don't fkn do it). But how could you argue against the long case with all these technicals in it's favour?
legendary
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The 'tards are the ones still buying at these prices.

Not sure if "'tards" are buing, but more "'tards" more profit.
newbie
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The 'tards are the ones still buying at these prices.
hero member
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Do you not know how to read a chart and analyze a trend? When price is close to the downtrend, the market is just looking for any excuse to go down. This is going to persist until there is a significant increase in volume to terminate the trend and there is a powerful spike above the line.
hero member
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The only way "it is thin ice" is if i plan to sell in the next 4 weeks... otherwise I am sitting pretty Cheesy

Giove us a timeline on your 260 retest otherwise its like the chinese fud that never ends

There is no timeline.

I have figured out that I trade best going long and relying on intuition to get a feel for if I am doing the right thing or not.

I went long ($450), intuition told me that it was a dangerous thing to be doing, but 'safe in the meantime', so I exited my position whilst it was still 'safe' ($464). A couple of days have passed since then.





hero member
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Good Luck with that ...Wink

Yeah...I sure hope I aint aiming too high and don't rely on upper most reaches of bounce just to break even!

Ok so lets mark this weekned as your best buyin oppurtunity at the prices you are looking for ...sound reasonable??

If we get through this weekend and we dont even get close ..(we may retest the 410 support ) will you own that sub 300 is a pipe dream in this current market ?



I am not saying sub $300 this weekend. I am saying next significant support level is $260. Sooner or later, Bitcoin is going to have to test the upper resistance or the lower support. It seems pretty obvious to me which is the more likely of the two scenarios to play out.

Being long Bitcoin right at this moment is a pretty dangerous thing to be........Y'all be skating on thin ice.

 Grin

hero member
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Good Luck with that ...Wink

Yeah...I sure hope I aint aiming too high and don't rely on upper most reaches of bounce just to break even!

Ok so lets mark this weekned as your best buyin oppurtunity at the prices you are looking for ...sound reasonable??

If we get through this weekend and we dont even get close ..(we may retest the 410 support ) will you own that sub 300 is a pipe dream in this current market ?



I am not saying sub $300 this weekend. I am saying next significant support level is $260. Sooner or later, Bitcoin is going to have to test the upper resistance or the lower support. It seems pretty obvious to me which is the more likely of the two scenarios to play out.

Being long Bitcoin right at this moment is a pretty dangerous thing to be........Y'all be skating on thin ice.

The only way "it is thin ice" is if i plan to sell in the next 4 weeks... otherwise I am sitting pretty Cheesy

Giove us a timeline on your 260 retest otherwise its like the chinese fud that never ends
hero member
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Good Luck with that ...Wink

Yeah...I sure hope I aint aiming too high and don't rely on upper most reaches of bounce just to break even!

Ok so lets mark this weekned as your best buyin oppurtunity at the prices you are looking for ...sound reasonable??

If we get through this weekend and we dont even get close ..(we may retest the 410 support ) will you own that sub 300 is a pipe dream in this current market ?



I am not saying sub $300 this weekend. I am saying next significant support level is $260. Sooner or later, Bitcoin is going to have to test the upper resistance or the lower support. It seems pretty obvious to me which is the more likely of the two scenarios to play out.

Being long Bitcoin right at this moment is a pretty dangerous thing to be........Y'all be skating on thin ice.
hero member
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Good Luck with that ...Wink

Yeah...I sure hope I aint aiming too high and don't rely on upper most reaches of bounce just to break even!

Ok so lets mark this weekned as your best buyin oppurtunity at the prices you are looking for ...sound reasonable??

If we get through this weekend and we dont even get close ..(we may retest the 410 support ) will you own that sub 300 is a pipe dream in this current market ?

hero member
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Good Luck with that ...Wink

Yeah...I sure hope I aint aiming too high and don't rely on upper most reaches of bounce just to break even!
hero member
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So you suggest we should sell BTC on trading platforms? Say opening position price and closing position price Smiley

My buy in tranches are between $260 and $300.

Good Luck with that ...Wink
hero member
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So you suggest we should sell BTC on trading platforms? Say opening position price and closing position price Smiley

My buy in tranches are between $260 and $300.
legendary
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If I hadn't vowed to myself to stop trading with leverage, I would short Bitcoin right now at $450. A few more days perhaps of Bitstamp circlejerk trade volume and then down we go.

thats encouraging then Wink
legendary
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any analysis why this will happen?

There is no volume outwith the Bitstamp insider circlejerking trading swishing clutches of Bitcoins backwards and forwards trying to net in as many little fishes as possible. If the little fishes aren't biting at these prices (they aren't) then it is down to the next level.

We have had our short squeezing dead cat bounce, and now the grind down continues with the sharp price dip a coming around the mountain. Look back over the 1 day chart and you will see the recurring fractal of crash-bounce-grind-down-crash, and you will see the exact same thing looks to be happening once again, but with the time intervals between 'cycles' becoming less and less.

Fact is, Bitcoin has no business being way up in 4 or even higher 3 digits at this stage and got there due to a combination of China and speculators suffering from 'irrational exuberance'. China is gone/going, the exuberance has been replaced by a largely bearish sentiment, and there are other gremlins in the mix such as the Gox-coins, hacker coins, seized coins.

If I hadn't vowed to myself to stop trading with leverage, I would short Bitcoin right now at $450. A few more days perhaps of Bitstamp circlejerk trade volume and then down we go.


So you suggest we should sell BTC on trading platforms? Say opening position price and closing position price Smiley
full member
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any analysis why this will happen?

There is no volume outwith the Bitstamp insider circlejerking trading swishing clutches of Bitcoins backwards and forwards trying to net in as many little fishes as possible. If the little fishes aren't biting at these prices (they aren't) then it is down to the next level.

We have had our short squeezing dead cat bounce, and now the grind down continues with the sharp price dip a coming around the mountain. Look back over the 1 day chart and you will see the recurring fractal of crash-bounce-grind-down-crash, and you will see the exact same thing looks to be happening once again, but with the time intervals between 'cycles' becoming less and less.

Fact is, Bitcoin has no business being way up in 4 or even higher 3 digits at this stage and got there due to a combination of China and speculators suffering from 'irrational exuberance'. China is gone/going, the exuberance has been replaced by a largely bearish sentiment, and there are other gremlins in the mix such as the Gox-coins, hacker coins, seized coins.



So Mat, when & at what price do you think Bitcoin will bottom out?
hero member
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any analysis why this will happen?

There is no volume outwith the Bitstamp insider circlejerking trading swishing clutches of Bitcoins backwards and forwards trying to net in as many little fishes as possible. If the little fishes aren't biting at these prices (they aren't) then it is down to the next level.

We have had our short squeezing dead cat bounce, and now the grind down continues with the sharp price dip a coming around the mountain. Look back over the 1 day chart and you will see the recurring fractal of crash-bounce-grind-down-crash, and you will see the exact same thing looks to be happening once again, but with the time intervals between 'cycles' becoming less and less.

Fact is, Bitcoin has no business being way up in 4 or even higher 3 digits at this stage and got there due to a combination of China and speculators suffering from 'irrational exuberance'. China is gone/going, the exuberance has been replaced by a largely bearish sentiment, and there are other gremlins in the mix such as the Gox-coins, hacker coins, seized coins.

If I hadn't vowed to myself to stop trading with leverage, I would short Bitcoin right now at $450. A few more days perhaps of Bitstamp circlejerk trade volume and then down we go.
hero member
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down from $550 to $450
 Sad
Looks like we may see sub-$400 coins this weekend.
any analysis why this will happen?
sr. member
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Bitcoin super-duper-mega-ultra-hyper-node
Looks like we may see sub-$400 coins this weekend.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!

"Old news" even if the story is from today.
The market already reacted to losing China (down to as low as $340), and now the recovery continues.
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http://www.coindesk.com/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-fxbtc-to-close-citing-central-bank-pressure/

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FXBTC cited “unprecedented pressure” from the People’s Bank of China (PBOC) as well as restrictions on its banking services that have resulted from the central bank’s policies as deciding factors.

FXBTC said that long-term financial losses stemming from what it termed a “blockade” by the PBOC resulted in the management team deciding to end the service.

According to a translated statement from CryptoCoinsNews, the management team was unable to envision a successful future due to growing negative pressure from the PBOC.
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