- 2013 bubble was mostly a fake bubble that was created by 90% fake volume and pure manipulation and a little real money going in.
2017 bubble was partly fake bubble and manipulation like less than 10% fake volume if I am generous. the 2017 bubbles was not as big as 2013 bubble either.
Why, because of the Willy Bot? Or volume pumping on Chinese exchanges?
I'm not sure I buy that. Whether or not the above happened, the fact is that real demand existed at those bubble prices. Real buyers pushed the price up across the world regardless of what was happening on Gox. Same goes for the Tether manipulation claims now.
yeah but the difference is that all the manipulation of 2014 (Mt Gox and willy bot and all the rest) were happening in one place, a place which was controlling
the whole market because it controlled all the volume and nearly all traders were there. checking the volume percentages Mt Gox had more than 85-90% of the daily trading volume. the influence of an exchange with such volume share is great.
I agree about the Tether and the manipulation of 2018 but in comparison Tether for instance happened in a
tiny part of the whole market because exchanges like bitfinex control a tiny part of the volume and number of investors. bitfinex has 10% of the volume best case and that is only assuming the volume is not fake. any manipulation happening there was also minimal.
I get what you're saying. But I think
if you're going to lend credence to Gox manipulation because of its influence on the market, I think the same logic applies to Bitfinex/Tether.
Personally, in 2013, I found the Chinese exchanges (Huobi in particular) dominated price action more than Mt Gox. And yeah, I don't think volume matters that much. None of it is verifiable and many (if not most) exchanges are suspected of faking volume.
But if we are going to say Gox controlled the market, it should be pointed out that Bitfinex has a tangible influence on the market. As a trader, you simply cannot ignore Bitfinex. In terms of exchanges reacting to one another, they are the most dominant exchange in the world. They are always the first chart I open and what I use for setting alarms, because they are reliably among the first to move. It's been that way since 2014, even through the hack debacle in 2016.
Just my observations.