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Topic: Will 21 Inc chips bring in faster hash rate than existing ASICs ? - page 2. (Read 2908 times)

sr. member
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blockchain longa, vita brevis
Is a new arms race coming?

Also when they talk about embedded mining, do they mean mobile or what?
legendary
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Cashback 15%
I have read several threads regarding the plan of 21 Inc. on putting embedded miners on some devices like your toaster and your oven, but how would that work, I haven't got any clue. The new proposed chips will be more efficient compared to what is already in the market. This could probably strengthen the network overall.

electric dryer runs 65 minutes to 90 minutes  uses more then 3000 watts .

 So lets  say   4.4 kwatts per   load  or 132 kwatts a month or 13.20 usd a month. at 1 load a day.

putting in gear here and letting the waste heat do work may  allow for 2 hours of mining 1 kwatt each hour or if the gear does .2 watts it is like mining 5th for 2 hours

may be workable may not.

But the cable box pulls juice when idle 24/7/365 less chips less to notice.

Only time will tell what they do.

Because you pointed out the power consumption, how efficient would these embedded chips be? If the chips would only work on the side together with the wasted heat, how many hashes per second are we talking in here?
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Beefcake!!!
This sounds really interesting but I wonder how easy it will be to implement into current infrastructure.  Does this mean every device will also have to have wireless capability?  I would also be concerned about electricity usage, as mine is tiered so every little bit counts.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I have read several threads regarding the plan of 21 Inc. on putting embedded miners on some devices like your toaster and your oven, but how would that work, I haven't got any clue. The new proposed chips will be more efficient compared to what is already in the market. This could probably strengthen the network overall.

electric dryer runs 65 minutes to 90 minutes  uses more then 3000 watts .

 So lets  say   4.4 kwatts per   load  or 132 kwatts a month or 13.20 usd a month. at 1 load a day.

putting in gear here and letting the waste heat do work may  allow for 2 hours of mining 1 kwatt each hour or if the gear does .2 watts it is like mining 5th for 2 hours

may be workable may not.

But the cable box pulls juice when idle 24/7/365 less chips less to notice.

Only time will tell what they do.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
Cashback 15%
I have read several threads regarding the plan of 21 Inc. on putting embedded miners on some devices like your toaster and your oven, but how would that work, I haven't got any clue. The new proposed chips will be more efficient compared to what is already in the market. This could probably strengthen the network overall.
legendary
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They will put a 1-2watt chip in every cable box. 

When you do not have the cable on it will pull 1 watt and hash at 10 gh.  when you turn the cable on it will pull 2 watts and hash at 20gh

It will be in every cable modem same idea..

Take the Cablevision  Box now when turned off it pulls 4 -5 watts  When running it pulls more.

I have 2 cablevision units and a Modem all of these run 24/7   .  How many have them in the world?

it is expected that you can control the wattage? i mean you can disactivate the mining operation and use your device only for the thing that is born to? or you are forced to mine everytime you fire it up?
hero member
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When you do not have the cable on it will pull 1 watt and hash at 10 gh.  when you turn the cable on it will pull 2 watts and hash at 20gh

10 GH / watt at the wall seems rather unlikely.  Even if they could manage a tripling of current efficiency, they still have to power the logic board and network connection.  I'd be surprised if they could do 20GH with anything less than 10 watt incremental at the wall.
legendary
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their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall

they are working with AMD, Intel and Qualcomm. they will have a very efficient chip.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
They will put a 1-2watt chip in every cable box. 

When you do not have the cable on it will pull 1 watt and hash at 10 gh.  when you turn the cable on it will pull 2 watts and hash at 20gh

It will be in every cable modem same idea..

Take the Cablevision  Box now when turned off it pulls 4 -5 watts  When running it pulls more.

I have 2 cablevision units and a Modem all of these run 24/7   .  How many have them in the world?
sr. member
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their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall

if thats true i cant imagine what is comming soon, i didnt know if this is a good or bad news Sad

lets see whats happen...

Why would be bad news? If it will need less energy to make more hash power, that mean that Bitcoin network will be stronger for this price or will be cheaper for this strength. So only good things.

That means price wont rise ? How come that be a good news ?
it is nothing to do with the price! It will make the outdated miner obsolete. Only the chip manufacturer will get a lot of profit!
sr. member
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their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall

if thats true i cant imagine what is comming soon, i didnt know if this is a good or bad news Sad

lets see whats happen...

Why would be bad news? If it will need less energy to make more hash power, that mean that Bitcoin network will be stronger for this price or will be cheaper for this strength. So only good things.

That means price wont rise ? How come that be a good news ?
sr. member
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It is only suitable for embedded into heat generation device such as heater. I would not let it run on my mobile phone.
legendary
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Yeah, I believe that more mining power can only be good for the bitcoin network. It will be interesting to see what becomes of these chips.
legendary
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their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall

if thats true i cant imagine what is comming soon, i didnt know if this is a good or bad news Sad

lets see whats happen...

Why would be bad news? If it will need less energy to make more hash power, that mean that Bitcoin network will be stronger for this price or will be cheaper for this strength. So only good things.
legendary
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northern exposure
their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall

if thats true i cant imagine what is comming soon, i didnt know if this is a good or bad news Sad

lets see whats happen...
legendary
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their chip will be based on the future nm processing, they will be for sure less power hungry, and i suppose more efficient overall
sr. member
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Their site says...

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We've developed a chip for embedded bitcoin mining.

Here is a post from their CEO: A bitcoin miner in every device and in every hand

So, my question is, will they be able to provide faster hash rate than existing ASIC manufacturers ?
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